Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[davei]

Originally Posted by hankdabank

2nd! Gummy style would be awesome.

We can't make glow Champion Aeros. They're too heavy.

[davei]

Originally Posted by junky

How does a Pegasus throw?

A Pegasus is basically a more stable Gazelle.

[davei]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

Keep 'em stiff!

What's the deal with the clear glow destroyers for japan? What is different about them? They look pretty sweet.

Sorry, I don't know anything about them.

[two5twosix9]

Originally Posted by davei

We can't make glow Champion Aeros. They're too heavy.

Did you try recently, how heavy did they come out? That is lame.

These destroyers-
http://cgi.ebay.com/TEST-RUN-GLOW-JA...item20ae724286

[ishkatbible]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

These destroyers-
http://cgi.ebay.com/TEST-RUN-GLOW-JA...item20ae724286

aside from the stamp it looks like the rest of the glow destroyers i've seen. what do you see that's different?

[two5twosix9]

Originally Posted by ishkatbible

aside from the stamp it looks like the rest of the glow destroyers i've seen. what do you see that's different?

They are clear. The ones I have and have seen are not that clear.

[ishkatbible]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

They are clear. The ones I have and have seen are not that clear.

hmmm.. i've got a clear one. from a tournament earlier this year. a buddy of mine has the same disc but, his is a little foggy...
come to think of it, most of them i've seen have had a foggy tint to them. maybe there is something special about mine!?

[ChrisEads]

Is there any chance that Innova will make Echo Boss's and Echo Firebirds because those would really be awesome discs and if there has already been talks of it when can we expect to see them available to the public?

[two5twosix9]

have you ever tried or thought to run a super heavy(200-300gm) disc as a training tool?

[davei]

Originally Posted by ChrisEads

Is there any chance that Innova will make Echo Boss's and Echo Firebirds because those would really be awesome discs and if there has already been talks of it when can we expect to see them available to the public?

Echo Firebirds are a distinct possibility. Bosses are unlikely because it would be difficult to get them light enough. Neither is scheduled at this time.

[davei]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

have you ever tried or thought to run a super heavy(200-300gm) disc as a training tool?

This was a suggestion by Jonathan Poole a couple of years ago. We didn't want these discs out in circulation where they might be used to play disc golf. 200gm + discs pack a big wallop when they hit things. I played in the era when there wasn't any weight limit and threw discs as heavy as 250 gms.

Training with heavy discs can help your strength, but hurt your rhythm. Rhythm is much more important than strength and you can get strength in other ways.

[AviarX]

Have you ever held an 'Aviars only' event? It could be a yearly extravaganza showcasing the most important disc ever to fly. It could be held on the same day in multiple locations and Innova could sponsor these events. There could be a distance contest too. What is the farthest you have seen/heard someone legitimately throw an Aviar?

I think that would be more likely to draw young players than super class...

just dreaming out loud ...

[atreau3]

We just had a PDGA event at our Rutgers University course in NJ.

It was called "Fall N Putt" and was played with one disc, the Aviar.

The event drew new players and experienced alike and was truly a fun event.

We played to rounds using the aviar in the players pack.

Here are our results...

http://www.pdga.com/tournament-resul...rnID=9715#Open

[mf100forever]

Hi Dave,
bought some (dx) Zephyrs recently with the "superclass"-stamp. The plastic feels like dx driverplastic or even R-Pro? What is it?

[davei]

Originally Posted by mf100forever

Hi Dave,
bought some (dx) Zephyrs recently with the "superclass"-stamp. The plastic feels like dx driverplastic or even R-Pro? What is it?

Hi Kjell,

I believe it is DX. R-Pro would likely be too soft for the Zephyr.

[20460chase]

So whats the deal with these Echo Teebirds? Like most of the more desired Innova product, they are on another website before any other. Im sure we will get access to them when everyone else has them. Great!

[PatrickSmith]

Originally Posted by 20460chase

So whats the deal with these Echo Teebirds? Like most of the more desired Innova product, they are on another website before any other. Im sure we will get access to them when everyone else has them. Great!

Thanks for the heads up that they are available now!

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by AviarX

Have you ever held an 'Aviars only' event? It could be a yearly extravaganza showcasing the most important disc ever to fly. It could be held on the same day in multiple locations and Innova could sponsor these events. There could be a distance contest too. What is the farthest you have seen/heard someone legitimately throw an Aviar?

I think that would be more likely to draw young players than super class...

just dreaming out loud ...

I've seen Will Schusterick throw a star Aviar (Not driver) from behind a goal post to 20ft past the goal post at the end of football field. 420 + feet..

Crazy

[exczar]

Goal post to goal post is 360ft, so it may have not have been quite that far.

In my younger days, I threw a prototype Aero 400 ft in a measured competition, and that was how far it went before it hit a tree! (no one thought that tree would even be close to interfering with the distance shots).

[unclemercy]

Originally Posted by exczar

Goal post to goal post is 360ft, so it may have not have been quite that far.

In my younger days, I threw a prototype Aero 400 ft in a measured competition, and that was how far it went before it hit a tree! (no one thought that tree would even be close to interfering with the distance shots).

from "behind a goal post", bill. in any case, that sure is some story. i like the part where you incorrectly correct someone in order to make light of their accomplishment. please tell me more.

[ishkatbible]

is that how far it is from goal post to goal post? good to know

[notahobogolfer]

Originally Posted by 20460chase

So whats the deal with these Echo Teebirds? Like most of the more desired Innova product, they are on another website before any other. Im sure we will get access to them when everyone else has them. Great!

Dave,
Will the stock stamp echo Teebirds get out to stores and clubs other than discgolf values? I thought they were only going to be ran with custom stamps?

[discette]

The Echo Star TeeBirds were available for West Coast custom orders while the discs were in queue for hot stamping. The entire West Coast inventory has been stock stamped and have been available to all customers for the past week. The discs for East Coast are still waiting to be shipped and likely won't be available from them until mid-January.

[mikeP]

Hey Dave,

I just threw some S and P line PDs today and I must say its the best stable control driver I've thrown in years. The speed, glide, and stability of them was in perfect harmony. The S plastic is my favorite type of star (stiff and grippy), and that P plastic is the best pro I've ever felt. It reminds me of some of the first pro Leopards that came out when you guys re-introduced pro, or the Super Roc plastic. Anyway, great job on the PD, I have a feeling its going to be in my bag a long time. Please keep the runs as they are shape and plastic wise!

[gokayaksteven]

how does it (pd) compare to a star teebird?

[dgdave]

Faster. Pretty much the same flight.

[AviarX]

Originally Posted by Breeze

I've seen Will Schusterick throw a star Aviar (Not driver) from behind a goal post to 20ft past the goal post at the end of football field. 420 + feet..

Crazy

I saw Will throw a Boss farther than I have ever seen anyone get on Hole 15 at Idlewild, but he seemed to throw putters with flutter/off-axis torque that same day, so it surprises me a little that he would throw an Aviar 400+. But, seeing how far he threw a Boss it doesn't surprise me too much...

I can throw an Aviar-x 330 if I eat my Wheaties and that is pretty good for mere mortals.

Dave, as an ex Distance Champion -- what is the farthest you've ever heaved an Aviar?
Did Sam Ferrans roll an Aviar a quarter of a mile or is that just mythos?

[gokayaksteven]

Dave-
what is the story of the discmania PD mold? is it a combo of some other molds? what discs share the same rim width?
thanks

[dgdave]

IT has the samw wing as a firebird with a new top

[davei]

Originally Posted by AviarX

I saw Will throw a Boss farther than I have ever seen anyone get on Hole 15 at Idlewild, but he seemed to throw putters with flutter/off-axis torque that same day, so it surprises me a little that he would throw an Aviar 400+. But, seeing how far he threw a Boss it doesn't surprise me too much...

I can throw an Aviar-x 330 if I eat my Wheaties and that is pretty good for mere mortals.

Dave, as an ex Distance Champion -- what is the farthest you've ever heaved an Aviar?
Did Sam Ferrans roll an Aviar a quarter of a mile or is that just mythos?

I threw about 360 ft with an Aviar (end zone to end zone). Craig Leyva could/can throw 400ft or more. So can Avery. I think Dave Griffin was a 400ft Aviar thrower too.

Sam did roll an Aviar that far, but it was on a dry lake bed and would have gone farther if he had started farther back. The rollers will often roll to the end of the lake bed. I am sure he could have rolled a half mile or more.