Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 340

hankdabank · Sep 30 2009, 04:20 PM

There should be a new disc called the DVD. That could be Harold's sig disc.

Who wouldn't want to throw an HD DVD?

20460chase · Sep 30 2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mrspank

Not to rag on the old-timers, but I doubt many of today's newer players would be enticed by a stamp that says "5x Senior GM Champ". I like your question though, I'm sure it will stimulate some good conversation.

That depends on the disc. If its the newest thing out it wouldnt matter. And actually, it wouldnt matter anyways, as the PDGA and its members only represent a small customer base for Innova.
60% of our customers dont know what Grandmasters is let alone who the player is. I can understand that perception towards Womens Sig discs, but cant understand why you would alienate that market.

I guess, Im saying if any Jenkins deserves a disc, its Val.

mrspank · Sep 30 2009, 05:02 PM

I agree that Val deserves a disc. She is current and on top of the female side of the sport. And she also throws the Pro Destroyer. How 'bout a co-signature disc for the Jenkins siblings? 4 world championships between them, if my math is correct.

veganray · Sep 30 2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mrspank

Val is current and on top of the female side of the sport.

Sarah Stanhope might have something to say about that.

poisonelf · Sep 30 2009, 05:46 PM

I know at one time that innova use to run molds for whamo, is there even the slightest chance that you all might ever run 86 softies again? (hopefully in some more durable plastic, last i heard was the DTworld has the mold)?

tokyo · Sep 30 2009, 06:36 PM

I think Star Echo X cals would be good for Avery or yes the whippet-x might be good as well.

davei · Sep 30 2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by poisonelf

I know at one time that innova use to run molds for whamo, is there even the slightest chance that you all might ever run 86 softies again? (hopefully in some more durable plastic, last i heard was the DTworld has the mold)?

We have already turned down that oportunity twice. We really don't have the facilities or time for it. We mold our own discs, plus discs for three other companies. We are booked. I believe that DTWorld does currently license the mold.

two5twosix9 · Oct 01 2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by davei

Besides the Spectator Roc, there will be grippy Star Darts, Eco Star Darts, Star Makos, and Pro Bosses.

I am curious about this grippy star plastic. Is it softer and less durable than regular star? A rubber star mix?

LastBoyScout · Oct 01 2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by davei

What would you suggest?

I would go with a Whippet-X top (and spacer if one is used for that mold) and the bottom half of an XCal.

Then call it the Jenk.

i can here it now. Dude! Did you see me Jenk that hole! It almost went in! That was almost Avery Jenkins like!

davei · Oct 01 2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by two5twosix9

I am curious about this grippy star plastic. Is it softer and less durable than regular star? A rubber star mix?

Not a mix. It is softer but should be just as durable as regular Star. I have been testing one for a few weeks and have no issues, what ever.

AviarX · Oct 01 2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by poisonelf

I know at one time that innova use to run molds for whamo, is there even the slightest chance that you all might ever run 86 softies again? (hopefully in some more durable plastic, last i heard was the DTworld has the mold)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

We have already turned down that opportunity twice. We really don't have the facilities or time for it. We mold our own discs, plus discs for three other companies. We are booked. I believe that DTWorld does currently license the mold.

That is pretty funny considering it was Whamo turning down your innovative disc design that forced you to create Innova :-)

unclemercy · Oct 02 2009, 10:43 AM

iron lion polls it's customers about the pdga grandmaster division?

20460chase · Oct 02 2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by unclemercy

iron lion polls it's customers about the pdga grandmaster division?

LOL, not really, though the 2x Advanced Grandmasters Champ is from the area. That reflects how large the recreational base is and how little the impact would be with business like ours.

stack · Oct 04 2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tokyo

Hey Dave any word on what the signature disc is going to be for Avery?

just asked Avery this today and he said Pro Destroyer

MischiefMKR · Oct 05 2009, 07:27 PM

Here is my question is a lighter disc less stable lets say a 169 star wraith to a 175 star wraith? I have alot of snap on my throws and can bomb to 450. I heard that lighter discs can hyzer-flip stright easier then a max weight also holds lines better is there anytrust to this.

20460chase · Oct 05 2009, 07:58 PM

You bomb 450 and dont know the answer to that question? MBD.

mikeP · Oct 05 2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MischiefMKR

Here is my question is a lighter disc less stable lets say a 169 star wraith to a 175 star wraith? I have alot of snap on my throws and can bomb to 450. I heard that lighter discs can hyzer-flip stright easier then a max weight also holds lines better is there anytrust to this.

Not unless you have impeccably clean form/release. Otherwise with that kind of power you are likely going to find lighter discs less consistent and predictable. Personally I can throw lighter discs higher and further in the wide open, but I have more controllable line drive golf D with heavier discs. So I don't play golf with the light discs.

futurecollisions · Oct 06 2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MischiefMKR

Here is my question is a lighter disc less stable lets say a 169 star wraith to a 175 star wraith? I have alot of snap on my throws and can bomb to 450. I heard that lighter discs can hyzer-flip stright easier then a max weight also holds lines better is there anytrust to this.

I have been trying to figure this out since i started playing. It seems to vary for each mold and each plastic. I think when you get below 169g there are some anomolies and certain discs get crazy overstable around 166g. Dave has explained this in the past as the way lighter discs cool off and the additives used to stabilize lighter weights.

For instance i have a 166g pro destroyer that is more overstable than any of my 175 discs and a 165g star destroyer that is probably the most overstable disc i have at all

MischiefMKR · Oct 06 2009, 03:54 PM

I am asking because I lost a star wraith the flipped striaght and went in a stright line for about 350 then hzyers and had that thing since i started playing last year. This is my only 2nd year playing golf and i only thrown max weight discs and I am just asking cuz I wanna get some idea if light is easier to hzyer flip flat. Also dont really wanna work in another discs lol

davei · Oct 06 2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MischiefMKR

I am asking because I lost a star wraith the flipped striaght and went in a stright line for about 350 then hzyers and had that thing since i started playing last year. This is my only 2nd year playing golf and i only thrown max weight discs and I am just asking cuz I wanna get some idea if light is easier to hzyer flip flat. Also dont really wanna work in another discs lol

You should probably stay with a similar weight you are used to if you were getting the results you wanted. All things equal, and they rarely are, a lighter weight disc would be easier to flip if it has a natural turn in the first place. A wraith does have a natural turn. However, you can look for a domier Wraith, as opposed to a flatter one to help you with hyzer flips. The dome should help it stay flipped once you get it over.

MattyInRR · Oct 09 2009, 03:33 PM

Hey Dave! when can we expect to see pro boss's at our local retailer? Thanks!

two5twosix9 · Oct 10 2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyInRR

Hey Dave! when can we expect to see pro boss's at our local retailer? Thanks!

The release date is the 19th.

MattyInRR · Oct 10 2009, 10:11 AM

cool thanks

stack · Oct 11 2009, 09:40 PM

i'll see if there is a different thread just for the usdgc roc release but does anyone know where to find the spreadsheet they always seem to have that shows how many of each type (stamp, color, etc) are out there? Also I heard the orange inn color are the rarest for those runs... any numbers on the blue, yellow, orange for that run?

two5twosix9 · Oct 12 2009, 01:52 AM

Hey stack, this is way off topic but I can't resist. I am not sure how old you are or if you are a basketball fan but I just lost my sonics. I am currious if you were a hornets fan and if so have you been able to accept the bobcats as your team?

Sorry for the topic drift. Thanks.

eclipseram · Oct 12 2009, 02:08 PM

Dave, any word on when that test run on the R-pro Polecats will happen?

gippy · Oct 12 2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stack

i'll see if there is a different thread just for the usdgc roc release but does anyone know where to find the spreadsheet they always seem to have that shows how many of each type (stamp, color, etc) are out there? Also I heard the orange inn color are the rarest for those runs... any numbers on the blue, yellow, orange for that run?

Championroc.com

stack · Oct 12 2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gippy

Championroc.com

thanks but nothing for 2010 yet... any word on how long it usually takes for them to release info on the current set?

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Originally Posted by two5twosix9

Hey stack, this is way off topic but I can't resist. I am not sure how old you are or if you are a basketball fan but I just lost my sonics. I am currious if you were a hornets fan and if so have you been able to accept the bobcats as your team?

Sorry for the topic drift. Thanks.

don't want to feed the drift but I moved to NC the year the bobcats started... normally could care less about NBA but my buddy worked for the team so i got to go to a lot of games for free so i'm kind of a bobcats fans... most fans around here are warming up to the team but its hard when the hornet's were so successful yet left on bad terms

weaves · Oct 13 2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stack

i'll see if there is a different thread just for the usdgc roc release but does anyone know where to find the spreadsheet they always seem to have that shows how many of each type (stamp, color, etc) are out there? Also I heard the orange inn color are the rarest for those runs... any numbers on the blue, yellow, orange for that run?

i heard it will be on zonedriven in a few weeks. i know this so far though. there were 25 glow rocs (the first 5 were pure-embossed). there were 10 star rocs with the hot stamp (0990-1000). where did u hear that the orange were the rarest for the inn colors? (not calling you a liar stack, im just wondering cause i have no idea myself) I have 5 and 6 and they are yellow background as are 1-4 (however im not sure how many total are yellow).

stack · Oct 13 2009, 12:31 AM

no prob Weaves... i was wondering what you were able to get from camping out... you ended up 3rd in line right? i bought mine during the awards ceremony (there were some held aside for volunteers and players). I read the part about the orange ones from some auctions on ebay and I believe someone said a collector also said that. not a reliable source ... hearsay for now.

thanks for the info on the couple weeks though ... i've been checking zonedriven

my inn-color has the blue background #239 i think
and my champ is blue w/ white stamp and #430 something

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Sep 30 2009, 05:02 PM	#10173
mrspank Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fritz Park Posts: 86	I agree that Val deserves a disc. She is current and on top of the female side of the sport. And she also throws the Pro Destroyer. How 'bout a co-signature disc for the Jenkins siblings? 4 world championships between them, if my math is correct.

Sep 30 2009, 05:46 PM	#10175
poisonelf PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 281	I know at one time that innova use to run molds for whamo, is there even the slightest chance that you all might ever run 86 softies again? (hopefully in some more durable plastic, last i heard was the DTworld has the mold)?

Oct 02 2009, 10:43 AM	#10182
unclemercy Community Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 276	iron lion polls it's customers about the pdga grandmaster division?

Oct 05 2009, 07:27 PM	#10185
MischiefMKR Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 15	Here is my question is a lighter disc less stable lets say a 169 star wraith to a 175 star wraith? I have alot of snap on my throws and can bomb to 450. I heard that lighter discs can hyzer-flip stright easier then a max weight also holds lines better is there anytrust to this.

Oct 06 2009, 03:54 PM	#10189
MischiefMKR Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 15	I am asking because I lost a star wraith the flipped striaght and went in a stright line for about 350 then hzyers and had that thing since i started playing last year. This is my only 2nd year playing golf and i only thrown max weight discs and I am just asking cuz I wanna get some idea if light is easier to hzyer flip flat. Also dont really wanna work in another discs lol

Oct 09 2009, 03:33 PM	#10191
MattyInRR PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Round Rock, Tx Posts: 312	Hey Dave! when can we expect to see pro boss's at our local retailer? Thanks!

Oct 10 2009, 10:11 AM	#10193
MattyInRR PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Round Rock, Tx Posts: 312	cool thanks

Oct 11 2009, 09:40 PM	#10194
stack Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 35.10069, -80.85513 Posts: 2,191	i'll see if there is a different thread just for the usdgc roc release but does anyone know where to find the spreadsheet they always seem to have that shows how many of each type (stamp, color, etc) are out there? Also I heard the orange inn color are the rarest for those runs... any numbers on the blue, yellow, orange for that run?

Oct 12 2009, 01:52 AM	#10195
two5twosix9 PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 135	Hey stack, this is way off topic but I can't resist. I am not sure how old you are or if you are a basketball fan but I just lost my sonics. I am currious if you were a hornets fan and if so have you been able to accept the bobcats as your team? Sorry for the topic drift. Thanks.

Oct 13 2009, 12:31 AM	#10200
stack Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 35.10069, -80.85513 Posts: 2,191	no prob Weaves... i was wondering what you were able to get from camping out... you ended up 3rd in line right? i bought mine during the awards ceremony (there were some held aside for volunteers and players). I read the part about the orange ones from some auctions on ebay and I believe someone said a collector also said that. not a reliable source ... hearsay for now. thanks for the info on the couple weeks though ... i've been checking zonedriven my inn-color has the blue background #239 i think and my champ is blue w/ white stamp and #430 something