Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[20460chase]

Originally Posted by pdorries

That's fine. I simply posted to follow up on a previous inquiry.

A few months ago I asked on this same thread about what midrange would fly like that. I tried many of the suggestions of other people but didn't have any success finding the flight pattern I was looking for. So after trying a lot of Innova stuff (because I personally love their drivers and the kc aviar) I broke down and got a meteor.

I made the post about the meteor to: 1. Maybe convince other people who were on the fence about throwing discraft midranges to try em out. 2. Ask Dave if he would consider making a midrange that flew like that to expand the innova line

Werent you also saying there can only be one no. 1 and Innova was it? Amazing what happens when you stay open minded and try other things. Innova, like everyone, is always trying to put out the best products.

[20460chase]

Originally Posted by gokayaksteven

where is Dave?

holed up running champ gators?

My guess would be handling matters relating to Tim S. 's passing.

[gokayaksteven]

yea, I should have figured that.

RIP Tim

[illyB]

Hola Dave, I was curious if you knew anything about the "no time" kc rocs. Basically where the 11/ 12 time usually is, it isn't there. Just the two lines continuing. These are both 175 grams. It seems they are taking way longer to brake in than my 12 time which is becoming a "flip machine" rather quickly. Any insight would be appreciated. Different plastic blend? Also, are kc rocs ever producing in any color other than white?

[veganray]

Originally Posted by illyB

Also, are kc rocs ever producing in any color other than white?

[illyB]

Originally Posted by veganray

wow, learn something new everyday. I notice none of those have a "time" on them either. Are they not produced with a "time" anymore?

[dgdave]

The no time rocs were stamped between 11x and 12x rocs. nothin special. There atre lots of colors out there for KC rocs now a days

[illyB]

thanks

[gippy]

Originally Posted by dgdave

The no time rocs were stamped between 11x and 12x rocs. nothin special. There atre lots of colors out there for KC rocs now a days

The 0Xs are like the 11Xs nice and stable and feel like the 11Xs and not like the slick 12Xs

[MattyInRR]

Hey Dave! I wanted to thank you again and again for everything you guys do for disc golf. Any word when Pro Boss's will be in production and for sale? Thanks for your time.

[junky]

I found an '06 World Dubs stamped disc yesterday, Innova mold but says S-OF on the bottom. What is it?

[dgdave]

Its a sirus Orion LF. Millineum disc. Kinda like a faster Eagle.

[junky]

it's in the lake @ Lions now.

[two5twosix9]

I have a 5 year old that loves to golf with me. He has a 137 leopard, a 119 roc, and we have even found a 134 orc. He has a couple of magnets that are about 120. He is still too small to throw 150 class but he has quite a few 150 discs anyway. I am wondering if you plan to expand the ultralight line and also where can I find the discs that were made for EDGE? Thanks dave.

[davei]

Originally Posted by MattyInRR

Hey Dave! I wanted to thank you again and again for everything you guys do for disc golf. Any word when Pro Boss's will be in production and for sale? Thanks for your time.

We will probably test it in driver Pro in a month or so. If we run it, they will be available later this year.

[davei]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

I have a 5 year old that loves to golf with me. He has a 137 leopard, a 119 roc, and we have even found a 134 orc. He has a couple of magnets that are about 120. He is still too small to throw 150 class but he has quite a few 150 discs anyway. I am wondering if you plan to expand the ultralight line and also where can I find the discs that were made for EDGE? Thanks dave.

The EDGE disc listing is out of date, but I don't know the correct one at present. Herodiscusa.com has sever discs that would be appropriate for a 5 yr old too. The light Sonic and Hero 235. We are planning on expanding the EDGE discs too. Both the Skeeter and Dart. I believe the Skeeter is replacing the Shark as an EDGE appropriate model.

[LastBoyScout]

Dave,

I was talking with Solstice Disc Sports this weekend at a tournament and he mentioned that his Innova Rep claimed that with the popularity of the CFR Gator-X mold that the Champion version was going back to a production run. Tell me its true Dave! The Pig just isnt replacing this disc like I hoped it would.

Also, I want to know like PDorries posted several posts above, is there an Innova disc in the works that is similar/clone to a discraft meteor? Maybe some beadless rocs? I dunno if its just me but my first run coyote's(too stable), fly dye champ cobra's(too stable), and old DX panther's just dont fly the same.(its not an issue of power or flying a disc, i get my boss out to 500feet and my rocs out to 350feet)The skeeter just feels too weird and gets a little squirrelly at times. Im currently using a 150 class Champ Leopard but that thing is way to soft and flexible and I would prefer something heavier that doesnt need to be beaten and flys true out of the box.

I already had to buy some super puppies to avoid buying a discraft rattler, and I would rather not have any "discrap" in the bag if you know what i mean.

Thanks Dave.

[20460chase]

Originally Posted by LastBoyScout

I already had to buy some super puppies to avoid buying a discraft rattler, and I would rather not have any "discrap" in the bag if you know what i mean.

Thanks Dave.

I really hope you dont own the shop you plug in your signature.

[unclemercy]

stratus equivilent as well please

[LastBoyScout]

I dont....

Every discraft disc i have owned flew differently. same thing with the meteors my buddy has. he has 5 of them, same weight and color. 3 fly the same. 1 is overstable. 1 is super understable. all purchased at the same time from the Bowling Green Ams flymart.

Besides, the south is Innova Country. Discraft and Gateway players are a rarity.

Besides Chase, I know that with you owning a store you might not ever "talk down" a disc or brand, but im sure you would be quick to make an alternative selection to a customer if it was someone you knew.

I just have issues with Discraft as well as several other locals with inconsistancy issues that we have just not had with Innova.

[mitchjustice]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

I have a 5 year old that loves to golf with me. He has a 137 leopard, a 119 roc, and we have even found a 134 orc. He has a couple of magnets that are about 120. He is still too small to throw 150 class but he has quite a few 150 discs anyway. I am wondering if you plan to expand the ultralight line and also where can I find the discs that were made for EDGE? Thanks dave.

The Sketters we got for the Kyle summer camp this year came in 135-143 grams...they worked much better than the 150 gram sharks we had been using the last 4 years...we also found really light cobras, super softs, and rocs(several runs and as low as 110 grams)...I would highly recommend a light Sketter for learning good form

[20460chase]

Originally Posted by LastBoyScout

I dont....

Every discraft disc i have owned flew differently. same thing with the meteors my buddy has. he has 5 of them, same weight and color. 3 fly the same. 1 is overstable. 1 is super understable. all purchased at the same time from the Bowling Green Ams flymart.

Besides, the south is Innova Country. Discraft and Gateway players are a rarity.

Besides Chase, I know that with you owning a store you might not ever "talk down" a disc or brand, but im sure you would be quick to make an alternative selection to a customer if it was someone you knew.

I just have issues with Discraft as well as several other locals with inconsistancy issues that we have just not had with Innova.

Whatever. For everything you just said, I can say the exact same thing about Innova. The variants in thier plastic is what makes it worth money in the secondary market, same principal for Gateway. Why is there no secondary market for Discraft? Because of consistency. Am I saying Discraft is better? No, not at all, Im just trying to express that multiple companies offer great products.

Theres a huge difference between offering a different selection and blasting a company putting money in your ( or said shops ) pocket.

Its kind of pitiful that because Dave takes the time to get on here and answer questions people feel its the right venue to blast anything non-Innova and basically kiss ***. Im not trying to be a dick or anything, if it were your shop, youd understand how important it is to have multiple options and how one product ruling the world doesnt benefit disc golf.

[LastBoyScout]

Thats understandable. I understand market diversity. Same thing with cars, I dont buy or support ford motors.

You just have to remember that opinions are like a$$h0le$. Everyone has one.

I prefer innova, i think its a superior product. no brown nosing going on here. if you dont agree with that, thats awesome. you have exercised a right that is not freely allowed all over the world. be glad you live in america and have the right to freely express that opinion. I know that I do everytime i think about high school friends who have died in the military protecting our freedoms.

[davei]

Originally Posted by LastBoyScout

Dave,

I was talking with Solstice Disc Sports this weekend at a tournament and he mentioned that his Innova Rep claimed that with the popularity of the CFR Gator-X mold that the Champion version was going back to a production run. Tell me its true Dave! The Pig just isnt replacing this disc like I hoped it would.

Also, I want to know like PDorries posted several posts above, is there an Innova disc in the works that is similar/clone to a discraft meteor? Maybe some beadless rocs? I dunno if its just me but my first run coyote's(too stable), fly dye champ cobra's(too stable), and old DX panther's just dont fly the same.(its not an issue of power or flying a disc, i get my boss out to 500feet and my rocs out to 350feet)The skeeter just feels too weird and gets a little squirrelly at times. Im currently using a 150 class Champ Leopard but that thing is way to soft and flexible and I would prefer something heavier that doesnt need to be beaten and flys true out of the box.

I already had to buy some super puppies to avoid buying a discraft rattler, and I would rather not have any "discrap" in the bag if you know what i mean.

Thanks Dave.

The more stable Gator mold will be run next time. The Gator is two levels faster than the Pig.

As for the Super Puppy, we do have the DX Polecat and will have an R-Pro version fairly soon. It is the closest we have to the Super Puppy.

I don't know what a Meteor flies like so I can't tell you what we have that might be like it. Sorry.

[johnbiscoe]

Originally Posted by unclemercy

stratus equivilent as well please

stratus=cobra

[gippy]

Originally Posted by davei

The more stable Gator mold will be run next time. The Gator is two levels faster than the Pig.

As for the Super Puppy, we do have the DX Polecat and will have an R-Pro version fairly soon. It is the closest we have to the Super Puppy.

I don't know what a Meteor flies like so I can't tell you what we have that might be like it. Sorry.

I tried to find charts for the meteor and discraft dosne't rate their discs like innova but from what I cam up with the Stingray would be the cloest thing to it. I would say the DX ones as I have heard through friends that the Star Stingrays are more stable than the DX and don't turn like they expected. Meteor rated at a -.5 the Stingray is 4,5,-3,1. This just my observation. If you like the Meteor and can't find anything that flies like it throw the meteor. It's that simple why change what works

[gokayaksteven]

Dave-
will the gator return to the regular line-up in champion plastic? when do you expect to do the next run?
thanks again

[pdorries]

Originally Posted by LastBoyScout

I would rather not have any "discrap" in the bag if you know what i mean.

i used to think the exact same thoughts, until i bagged the meteor. innova drivers still reign supreme and the kc aviar is golden... rocs... fly like rocs... which fly beautifully... BUT there isn't an innova disc that flies like the meteor... so you should get one man, fo sho

[20460chase]

Originally Posted by gippy

I tried to find charts for the meteor and discraft dosne't rate their discs like innova but from what I cam up with the Stingray would be the cloest thing to it. I would say the DX ones as I have heard through friends that the Star Stingrays are more stable than the DX and don't turn like they expected. Meteor rated at a -.5 the Stingray is 4,5,-3,1. This just my observation. If you like the Meteor and can't find anything that flies like it throw the meteor. It's that simple why change what works

It would be close in the small mold. There are 2 in Star plastic. The firsts were the small diameter. IMO, a way better choice than Kite or Skeeter and probably the best of all the choices brought up so far.

[davei]

Originally Posted by gokayaksteven

Dave-
will the gator return to the regular line-up in champion plastic? when do you expect to do the next run?
thanks again

Yes, I expect the Gator to be run in Champion, but I am not sure what line up it will be in. I believe the regular line up. I am not sure when right now. Not soon.