Ask Chuck Kennedy

[drmontei]

Chuck,
If a tournament is to be included in this next update, when is the latest we might see that on our player page? Just trying to get an idea if a couple of tournaments were submitted, but just haven't shown yet.

Thanks.

[cgkdisc]

All tournaments that were submitted should now show results as official with no ratings if they will be included in this next ratings update on July 21.

[CB2]

Any chance that a Tournament being held this Sunday(7-12-09) be included in the next update?

[cgkdisc]

No. All events are in the middle of being processed now. Largest batch ever with 279 events. Good thing we added two more update periods this year.

[Gator515]

Do you believe the day will come that we get updates monthly or bi-weekly some day?

[cgkdisc]

We likely will not even if we could. Ratings don't change that fast and members on average don't generate enough new rounds to do them more than every two months. And TDs have to do the paperwork beyond just posting scores. Some take more than 30 days to do their reports. What will get better is the unofficial round ratings process and leaving them up before the event becomes official. That will provide better and faster information.

[orotter]

Originally Posted by cgkdisc

The Ching "Heavy" is legal but haven't heard of the Wham-O Heavyweight by name. However, look at the Wham-O mold number on the disc. If it is on the PDGA approved list, then it would be legal at 200g and lighter weights.
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/...iscs_41609.pdf

Unfortunately I couldn't find the mold number. Any idea where to look?

[cgkdisc]

If there's no mold number, either in the flight rings on top or around the bottom, then you may need to contact Wham-O to find out what the mold number is and/or if it was approved. There's no Wham-O Heavyweight approved by that name but that doesn't mean the mold itself may have been approved.

[orotter]

Given a rim diameter of 27.5 cm I'm thinking it may be a "Master" mold. The point is probably moot because it says 200+ grams on the front which would be over the limit. Also, I can't throw the trash can lid worth beans. I'll stick to an Utrastar for my deep dish throws.

I've tried out several Super Class discs and my favorite all around is probably the Zephyr. I also like the Te Moko which seems even more stable. For maximum glide without being too flippy the Fastback Eurablend dog disc is a good choice. It's a bit heavier and a bit more stable than a standard Fastback. The plastic also seems extremely durable.

We had a Super Class Division with 8 players in a local mini and played Super Class skins this Tuesday. I think it's catching on with both older and younger players. We'll probably try a sanctioned event in November.

[exczar]

I just saw a Wham-O Heavyweight at a sporting goods store the other day, but I didn't think to look for a mold number, I just "assumed" that if it was 200g, it would be legal.

It looks nothing like a Master, at least the old Masters that had the cupola. It was yellow, but looked very similar to the old World Class 165g 8# mold series discs.

[cgkdisc]

That's good to hear. I use a warped 184g Star Superhero for putting and drive with Zephyrs. Use the Te Moko when I need some help dealing with wind.

[bruce_brakel]

The Wham-O heavy weights start at 200 so unless they are marked you should assume that they are illegal for SuperClass even if they are an approved mold.

[the_kid]

Chuck, how much % of our entry is going into the payout in EDGE? Doesn't matter as much now but I wish it would have been posted since often a good bit goes to EDGE.

I will let you know of another game that you might like and if so I will run it with 50% of the entries going to a charity/club of my choice.lol

[cgkdisc]

I don't think the payout will be any better than usual from a percentage standpoint. I'm taking my instructions for running it from Lyksett. I think we'll have more baskets than some years to help with flow. Maybe you won't care about this but I'm working on lining up two different Hall of Famers each hour to help entrants learn the throws and get them started. The Champ came onboard tonight. Hopefully that will be a bonus for the Ams doing the EDGE event.

[the_kid]

Always fun to have a chance to show up the champ when you are an AM. I have a picture in my room from 04' with the champ and I wherein my Trophy was twice as big. lol Also got him in 02' by parking a hole twice with an Eagle that he had just missed in practice with a few throws.

That's about all I got though but maybe in 10 years I will be able to take him down half the time.

Funniest thing was probably in 07' when Nikko asked Ken what year was he in his Prime...........and Kenny thought about it then said 95' because he won 28 events with only one loss which was 2nd place. I figure that is pretty good.......................he did lose that ONE time. lol

[pdorries]

Chuck,

May 2-3 in Edmond, OK.. the Tye F. Cunningham tournament has official results, but no ratings? is there a reason there are no ratings?

I did notice it still says sanctioning pending, but the tournament was a long time ago, what causes a long wait on the sanctioning?

Thanks

[cgkdisc]

The report probably was received at PDGA HQ just after the deadline for this ratings update. That means it will be in the next update around Sept 1.

[cholly]

hi chuck..

wondering if the ratings get rounded up or down.
if i add up all of my included rounds, double the recent 25% and divide by total rounds...
my rating should be 994.2 about. they have my new rating at 995.
was wondering how its figured as far as rounding is concerned.

[CB2]

Is there a way to find out how many tournaments are held every year for the past 6 or 7 years?

Just interested on how many more tournaments and being held every year!

[ChrisWoj]

Originally Posted by cholly

hi chuck..

wondering if the ratings get rounded up or down.
if i add up all of my included rounds, double the recent 25% and divide by total rounds...
my rating should be 994.2 about. they have my new rating at 995.
was wondering how its figured as far as rounding is concerned.

You also need to weight every round by the number of holes played.

[the_kid]

Chuck, why is it that my rounds that get dropped from my ratings average 1008 and my rounds coming in average 1013.5 yet there is no change in rating? Normally I take the difference of the two and divide by 4 since there are 4 updates and it gives me an answer within 1-2 points.

I figure just like last year though if I keep averaging 1012+ per update I am bound to get there by the end of the year.lol

[cgkdisc]

wondering if the ratings get rounded up or down.
if i add up all of my included rounds, double the recent 25% and divide by total rounds...
my rating should be 994.2 about. they have my new rating at 995.
was wondering how its figured as far as rounding is concerned.

We do the ratings on a "per hole" basis in the database and then convert the number to the rating you see. So due to rounding and truncating, many people won't be able to exactly calculate their ratings because each round rating has been rounded and the overall rating truncated.

[cgkdisc]

Originally Posted by CB2

Is there a way to find out how many tournaments are held every year for the past 6 or 7 years?
Just interested on how many more tournaments and being held every year!

Try this:
http://www.pdga.com/documents/event-growth-chart

[CB2]

Originally Posted by cgkdisc

Try this:
http://www.pdga.com/documents/event-growth-chart

Thanks!

### of Sanctioned events jumped BIG time after 2002 and pretty good jump from 07 - 08!

Will be interesting to see 08 - 09!

[the_kid]

Got another one for you Chuck!

Why is it that the SSA at Grandview this past weekend was 3 strokes higher than when the Jr division played it in 04? In 04 a the SSA was 46 and now the same score is 1037........................can't be because of the players and their ratings can it?

[cgkdisc]

No. But the course changes and weather can affect that. Plus we didn't have the adjustment factor for lower rated pool averages in the calculations then which has been added. The other factor is the number of established props and there were not as many in the Juniors which can produce a wider variance in any round.

[brock]

chuck, is there a site for disc golf world records?

i think longest tourney ace is the 726 foot in montana at the X

wasn't there a booming 1 at the toboggan course where dudes wife kissed the disc before he tossed it and said "get an ace babe"?

well, last week, lane mason canned a ~500 foot THUMBER ace at willamette pass to deflate nate sexton and win by a stroke.

gotta be a record there.....

[exczar]

Don't believe that there are official disc golf world records, but you might try Hosfeld's website www.frivolist.com to see if he has any DGWR links.

Yep, just checked it - it's there. Darn, I'm good!

[brock]

thanks , there's some good stuff in there, a little outdated, but fun. unless schweberger has hit a longer one, lane's 500ft thumber ace should be on that site, i'll shoot miniac an email.

"Chuck Kennedy #4949, Riverside Park #14, St. Cloud, MN, May 1998, Roller went uphill 130 feet, hit a tree and rolled back past tee, went another 100 feet, then over cliff down 50 feet landing 5 feet from Mississippi River."

[bruce_brakel]

Originally Posted by brock

thanks , there's some good stuff in there, a little outdated, but fun. unless schweberger has hit a longer one, lane's 500ft thumber ace should be on that site, i'll shoot miniac an email.

"Chuck Kennedy #4949, Riverside Park #14, St. Cloud, MN, May 1998, Roller went uphill 130 feet, hit a tree and rolled back past tee, went another 100 feet, then over cliff down 50 feet landing 5 feet from Mississippi River."

My brother used to be on the dishonorable mention list for most broken bones and lost discs on one hole (2+5). Someone PDGAish prevailed upon Hosfield to remove that because it made the sport look bad.

Hey, Chuck: Will there be an update of the PDGA World Rankings

for men and women soon, or are those elves busy with Worlds?