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Old Jul 08 2009, 01:17 PM   #1711
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The blue ones I got were some of the best Z I've felt in a long time.
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Old Jul 09 2009, 01:45 AM   #1712
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agreed. 175 and 176g pearly blue z stalker seems a similar plastic mix to the first run buzzz and they fade slowly but just don't like holding an anny. mine are still new but they don't dig going right. straight or slightly left is where they live. fun.
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Old Jul 09 2009, 01:46 AM   #1713
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...still hoping someone can tell me what color of z tracker is going to be the least overstable.
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Old Jul 09 2009, 07:05 AM   #1714
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I threw a 173g orange stalker yesterday 3 times. I threw an older tracker also. They held the same line and the tracker was always a few feet ahead. I'm not sure if I see a use for another similar disc. Am I missing something?
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Old Jul 09 2009, 10:21 AM   #1715
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Old Jul 09 2009, 10:34 AM   #1716
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I banned him.

Actually he might be travelling.

A secret mission?
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Old Jul 09 2009, 01:04 PM   #1717
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Default Z Stalker

I recently got 2 in the mail one yellow, one blue both 176g. I was able to get them out just a little past the 360 mark without really having to get on them (virtually no left to right movement). When i did start to really throw them they turned a little but always broke back near the end of the flight. I let a friend try them (he throws almost nothing but squalls and buzzz's for mid shots) and he said they were very close to the squall but the stalker was a little longer and has a little more fade at the end. He purchased them off of me and i really think its going to be his go to control disc. Should be a great disc for finess oriented players and maybe a good turn over disc for guys with cannons.
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Old Jul 09 2009, 02:52 PM   #1718
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What are the Z Stalkers like compared to a 12x Champion TeeBird?? I'm intrigued by the disc but dont want to add it to the bag if it's basically an overlap with Innova's disc.
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Old Jul 09 2009, 10:54 PM   #1719
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I threw a 173g orange stalker yesterday 3 times. I threw an older tracker also. They held the same line and the tracker was always a few feet ahead. I'm not sure if I see a use for another similar disc. Am I missing something?
what plastic is your tracker? my esp's would serve me well for 1/2 a season and then turn into flippy rollers. my z's are too overstable with a big hook at the end.
the difference, for me, between the tracker and stalker is that i have to shape the tracker while the stalker just holds a line. the stalker can be turned over but it doesn't like it--it rolls back predictably without getting too overstable @ slow speeds. in other words, it makes a narrower "s" than a tracker and won't fall off to the right when thrown with some snap. plus you can throw it slower and it still holds a smooth line. i'm a buzzz lover but i keep forgetting to throw my buzzz during rounds.

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Old Jul 10 2009, 07:19 AM   #1720
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I throw one of the early red Z Trackers. I'm a surge thrower mainly but I often add an XS or tracker to the bag.
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Old Jul 10 2009, 08:36 AM   #1721
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I throw one of the early red Z Trackers. I'm a surge thrower mainly but I often add an XS or tracker to the bag.

Those early DISCRAFT stamped Trackers were by far the best and the Player's Cup ones and especially the new Z's fly nothing like those.
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Old Jul 10 2009, 08:41 AM   #1722
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What are the Z Stalkers like compared to a 12x Champion TeeBird?? I'm intrigued by the disc but dont want to add it to the bag if it's basically an overlap with Innova's disc.

The two discs do not overlap that much. The Stalker would sort of compare to a beat in Teebird, but it is a little more workable. The Teebird's fade characteristic is definetely stronger and earlier than the Stalker's. Also, if you put much hyzer on a Teebird throw it is going to dig left hard. The Stalker stays straighter and won't turn as hard.

Right now I'm liking the Stalker, but I'm not done testing it yet. It is currently taking the place of my light/straight Teebird and I'm still carrying my overstable Teebird because the Stalker tends to straighten out a little too much to hold a hyzer into the wind.
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Old Jul 10 2009, 08:48 AM   #1723
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I have 2 Stalkers. One is blue and weighs 177g, and the other is orange and weighs 176g. The plastic is incredibly nice and is exactly like the newer Z Buzzzes.

I am a Buzzz thrower. In the past I've often yearned for a driver that flew anything like the Buzzz. The characteristic of the Buzzz I most appreciate is its ability to resist turning over while still fading very late into the flight. This characteristic is certainly mimicked by the Stalker. The disc flies straight really well, and although it is a little more nose angle sensitive than a BUzzz, it is less so than any other driver I've thrown. This is a great control disc and I'm looking forward to throwing it more.
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Old Jul 10 2009, 09:11 AM   #1724
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A lot of good things are being written about the Stalker. I may give it another chance this weekend.
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Old Jul 10 2009, 05:46 PM   #1725
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stalker more stable than a star TL i assume?
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Old Jul 10 2009, 06:01 PM   #1726
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Old Jul 16 2009, 12:02 AM   #1727
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...still hoping someone can tell me what color of z tracker is going to be the least overstable.
thx,
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hello? any discraft representatives? maybe this is an inappropriate forum?
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Old Jul 16 2009, 12:07 AM   #1728
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It's probably the most appropriate forum for the question. While the Tracker is a great mold, i don't have much experience with it and do not qualify to answer the question at hand.

Maybe Smitty or Miles will answer this since i know they both throw the Tracker.

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Old Jul 16 2009, 02:30 AM   #1729
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It's probably the most appropriate forum for the question. While the Tracker is a great mold, i don't have much experience with it and do not qualify to answer the question at hand.

Maybe Smitty or Miles will answer this since i know they both throw the Tracker.

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Smitty should know but Miles probably won't since he likes the nice stable ones like I do. Now the Old man Smitty likes the straight ones and said there were some from a recent run of Z but I have no idea which color.

The Stalker is what I would think a straight Tracker would be with just a little less D.
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Old Jul 16 2009, 10:32 AM   #1730
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thanks, guys. smitty's acting like he's busy running tournaments 4 hours from his home. i'll titty twister him until he tells me this weekend in beloit. kid, you are right, the stalker is filling a hole in my bag but i think there's still room for a straight tracker.
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Old Jul 16 2009, 11:27 AM   #1731
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I carried a Tracker all the way across the state of Kansas and back, just to give to you at the tourney.

Looks like this weekend, I will be taking it across the state the opp. direction. This thing is getting some miles under its belt.


I think that you will have a spot for this one. A touch longer and maybe a wee bit more stable. If not, you can give it back to me and I will carry it around a little longer.
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Old Jul 16 2009, 01:43 PM   #1732
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Old Jul 16 2009, 01:50 PM   #1733
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Old Jul 16 2009, 11:54 PM   #1734
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Old Jul 27 2009, 04:51 AM   #1735
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Hello !

Anyone any idea if theres any way to find out which discs are more overstable than
others ?

Messy, I know :-)

I mean if I have 3 BUZZ in my hand do I have any way to find out which one
is most overstable without any throw ?

Why I wanna know ? Just because I lost my best FLX BUZZ and after that
I was buying atleast 5 BUZZ, but everyone is soooo understable ?
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Old Jul 27 2009, 06:58 AM   #1736
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Try a Wasp or a Roc for that matter
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Old Jul 27 2009, 08:36 AM   #1737
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Try a Wasp or a Roc for that matter
Yes, i have a Wasp, very good and I really waiting FLX Wasp !
ROC is too low for me.
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Old Jul 27 2009, 10:32 AM   #1738
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i think domier z buzzzs are more overstable than flatter ones but i couldn't tell you about FLX. i think the esp's are different mold cuz they have larger diameter.
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Old Jul 27 2009, 10:38 AM   #1739
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esp's are the same mold. domey does indeed equal more overstable in the buzzes i have thrown.
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Old Jul 28 2009, 01:24 AM   #1740
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Thanks to everyone.

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