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dehaas · Apr 29 2009, 05:15 PM

I ran home on my lunch break because my package with my rw pro aviar came in the mail. Definitely very grippy plastic...looks like it's gonna be an awesome putter. I was actually suprised at how firm the putter was, maybe because mine was a 175. I'd imagine that the wood composite was blended in to keep some firmness in the disc while still having great grip. I won't get a chance to throw it until first thing tomorrow morning, but I'll post back with some thoughts afterwards.

jgillia · Apr 29 2009, 06:50 PM

I just received my RW-Pro Rancho Roc and the baby is suuuuuuhweet!!

Dave, is there a production run of the RW-Pro blend being scheduled?!!?

davei · Apr 29 2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgillia

I just received my RW-Pro Rancho Roc and the baby is suuuuuuhweet!!

Dave, is there a production run of the RW-Pro blend being scheduled?!!?

No, not at this time. This was basically just a market test run.

davei · Apr 29 2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gippy

Try this http://primediscs.com/proddetail.asp...storyer-08voaj for the Destroyer Question one more time

Now I understand. The disc is a Pro Destroyer. The stamp is a custom hotstamp that says Champion Edition. That was confusing. The Pro plastic is the same as we have been using lately. It has evolved over the years to be a little tougher than it used to be.

mrspank · Apr 29 2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boneman

Mine shipped yesterday 4/28 ... should have them by early next week.

I'm assuming you were one of the partners and got a call to place your order personally. What about those of us who were not partners? I thought the ZoneDriven pro shop had closed... can they still be contacted about the Rocs?

Breeze · Apr 29 2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgillia

I just received my RW-Pro Rancho Roc and the baby is suuuuuuhweet!!

Dave, is there a production run of the RW-Pro blend being scheduled?!!?

Question... What is flat like a ching?... Smells like Sawdust?... And is the grippiest disc i've ever owned?

Answer.... RW-Pro Rancho Roc

https://www.discgolfvalues.com/store...1e2e018cf64737

Holy bejesus..... Only 294 more.. I'm getting 2 more..

-Chris A

davei · Apr 30 2009, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrspank

I'm assuming you were one of the partners and got a call to place your order personally. What about those of us who were not partners? I thought the ZoneDriven pro shop had closed... can they still be contacted about the Rocs?

If you contact zonedriven via the pro shop, you will be redirected to the DGU site where the Rocs are.

Karma Police · Apr 30 2009, 07:51 AM

Aced w/ my RW-Pro Ontario Roc on it's 2nd throw yesterday. The feel of this disc is sweet. The aviar is very nice also. Rancho Roc is not as firm as the other two but is very, very flat. Definitely should make some more discs in this plastic!

jfarm07 · Apr 30 2009, 12:11 PM

Hey Dave, sorry to post just another "hey, when's this coming out" post, but I was wondering if Cobras (either mold) will be run again in any plastic besides DX. Love that disc for consistent anny's or hyzer flip shots, but the DX beats in sooo fast. I like its out-of-the-box stability. Thanks!
jfarm

dehaas · Apr 30 2009, 12:14 PM

I played a round with my RW pro aviar this morning and loved it. It flew very true and had better grip than my jk in the wetness. I'm defninitely going to order a few more as backups. I can't say my deluxe bag held up as well though. Halfway through the round one of the loops that my quad shocks attach to ripped. This bag was a replacement of another that had the same issue. So now I'm a day and a half away from an A-tier scrambling to find a decent bag.

discette · Apr 30 2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dehaas

I played a round with my RW pro aviar this morning and loved it. It flew very true and had better grip than my jk in the wetness. I'm defninitely going to order a few more as backups. I can't say my deluxe bag held up as well though. Halfway through the round one of the loops that my quad shocks attach to ripped. This bag was a replacement of another that had the same issue. So now I'm a day and a half away from an A-tier scrambling to find a decent bag.

Take a few photos of the bag showing the problem and send to infoATinnovadiscsDOTcom or call 800-476-3968 to speak to someone right away.

davei · Apr 30 2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfarm07

Hey Dave, sorry to post just another "hey, when's this coming out" post, but I was wondering if Cobras (either mold) will be run again in any plastic besides DX. Love that disc for consistent anny's or hyzer flip shots, but the DX beats in sooo fast. I like its out-of-the-box stability. Thanks!
jfarm

The Cobra gets run occasionally in Champion or Star, but they go into the tournament support program. We presently have Star for cfr, and are planning to add Glow Champion, when we can get to it.

T Wrecks · Apr 30 2009, 09:38 PM

J. Poole, Dave,

I just wanted to say thanks for the rocs. I came home from work today and saw to innova box in my garage, and was excited as a kid at christmas. The discs look amazing and i just wanted to say thanks.

twoputtok · May 01 2009, 09:02 AM

Great news, then mine should be on the way.

johnrock · May 01 2009, 09:03 AM

Did I just read back there somewhere that there was going to be a "Doss" stamp on one of the new Rocs?

Is he part of Team Innova now?

twoputtok · May 01 2009, 09:34 AM

You are correct

johnrock · May 01 2009, 09:47 AM

Wow.

Do all Big D team members secretly wish to be a part of the BIG I?

T Wrecks · May 01 2009, 10:17 AM

I highly doubt that Doss is now throwing for Team Innova. I think that he has a stamp because he won the USDGC last year. I'm merely speculating here, but the only Discraft player I know of jumping ship is Bennett, but it was an all around better deal for him the long run.

RhynoBoy · May 01 2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tprueter

but the only Discraft player I know of jumping ship is Bennett, .

Ulibarri, Billings, to name a couple others.

Here is a link to this year's USDGC Roc stamps. The Doss stamp is on the top right. I am sure the stamp just features last year's winner, who happens to be a Discrafter.

http://www.icebowlhq.com/docs/2009_usdgc_rocs.pdf

DSproAVIAR · May 01 2009, 10:42 AM

Bennett went to Gateway

davei · May 01 2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhynoBoy

Ulibarri, Billings, to name a couple others.

Here is a link to this year's USDGC Roc stamps. The Doss stamp is on the top right. I am sure the stamp just features last year's winner, who happens to be a Discrafter.

http://www.icebowlhq.com/docs/2009_usdgc_rocs.pdf

Yes, Nate is on the stamp because he won. He is still sponsored by Discraft.

shteev · May 01 2009, 11:15 AM

so who do i have to talk to to be able to get my hands on one of these beauties without getting my wallet emptied? will they be for sale at a legitimate price anywhere? and dont say "just go to the show" b/c i will be awfully busy with a new young boy and completely unable to do anything out of state much less out of house. duh duh duuuhhn

twoputtok · May 01 2009, 11:44 AM

Not sure if any will make it to the general public release. Usually the partners buy the entire runs of all stamps before they can get to the public. Right after they are released they will be at their highest prices, then they seem to come back down to a reasonable amount after a month or two. Just be patient.......................

I'm waiting on mine ot arrive.

33009 · May 01 2009, 02:52 PM

just got my 2 RW ranchos yesterday on my B day, what a nice present to my self lol. absolutely love them especially since im a flat top roc fan...

just ordered 4 more

16670 · May 01 2009, 03:21 PM

I know this may date me but i have a question
Do you still have the mold for the old bead whippet
If so what was the reason for the change (in my opinion the old bead was much more stable and a wind hog,the new mold good but not as wind resistant)
I would be interested how the old bead would be in the newer plastic(i kinda salivate,star old bead whippet..mmmmmmm)
The reason for the thought, I was recently at a tourny with 40+constant winds and everything I threw,into the wind, even the extreme (sorry discraft reference,but nothing innova has is as stable in my opinion,,if there is tell me)ended up looking like a beat up 40 mold
back in the day I remember similar situations where that old bead whippet was the trick
maybe a CFR program or limited run/special edition...throw me a bone

davei · May 01 2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 16670

I know this may date me but i have a question
Do you still have the mold for the old bead whippet
If so what was the reason for the change (in my opinion the old bead was much more stable and a wind hog,the new mold good but not as wind resistant)
I would be interested how the old bead would be in the newer plastic(i kinda salivate,star old bead whippet..mmmmmmm)
The reason for the thought, I was recently at a tourny with 40+constant winds and everything I threw,into the wind, even the extreme (sorry discraft reference,but nothing innova has is as stable in my opinion,,if there is tell me)ended up looking like a beat up 40 mold
back in the day I remember similar situations where that old bead whippet was the trick
maybe a CFR program or limited run/special edition...throw me a bone

Whippet X is the ticket. We don't have the old bead. Also the X Monster and Max are over stable. 40+is a heck of a wind to be throwing into, but a new disc will still take it if you can release it smoothly. The trick is to not flutter it. That is not that easy with your arm moving into that current, however.

citysmasher · May 01 2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breeze

Question... What is flat like a ching?... Smells like Sawdust?... And is the grippiest disc i've ever owned?

Answer.... RW-Pro Rancho Roc

https://www.discgolfvalues.com/store...1e2e018cf64737

Holy bejesus..... Only 294 more.. I'm getting 2 more..

-Chris A

Its dirt colored... that will be easy to find.

krazyeye · May 01 2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by citysmasher

Its dirt colored... that will be easy to find.

I hit a tree eighty feet off the tee and it folded like I have never seen a disc fold. I won't be throwing it any more.

AviarX · May 01 2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tprueter

I highly doubt that Doss is now throwing for Team Innova. I think that he has a stamp because he won the USDGC last year. I'm merely speculating here, but the only Discraft player I know of jumping ship is Bennett, but it was an all around better deal for him the long run.

what about 5x World Champ Juliana -- the only women to ever cash at the USDGC?

Nate ought to consider it

J_VanOver · May 01 2009, 10:31 PM

When will the Innova Type XT bag that was given to players at the 2008 Japan Open in the players pack be released for sale to the public? I've only used mine a couple of times but I'm getting ready to take mine to a tournament this weekend and that made me think about it again.

Apr 30 2009, 12:11 PM	#9579
jfarm07 Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: chapel hill, nc Posts: 3	Cobras Hey Dave, sorry to post just another "hey, when's this coming out" post, but I was wondering if Cobras (either mold) will be run again in any plastic besides DX. Love that disc for consistent anny's or hyzer flip shots, but the DX beats in sooo fast. I like its out-of-the-box stability. Thanks! jfarm

Apr 30 2009, 09:38 PM	#9583
T Wrecks Community Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Holland, Mi Posts: 56	USDGC Rocs J. Poole, Dave, I just wanted to say thanks for the rocs. I came home from work today and saw to innova box in my garage, and was excited as a kid at christmas. The discs look amazing and i just wanted to say thanks.

May 01 2009, 03:21 PM	#9595
16670 PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 194	I know this may date me but i have a question Do you still have the mold for the old bead whippet If so what was the reason for the change (in my opinion the old bead was much more stable and a wind hog,the new mold good but not as wind resistant) I would be interested how the old bead would be in the newer plastic(i kinda salivate,star old bead whippet..mmmmmmm) The reason for the thought, I was recently at a tourny with 40+constant winds and everything I threw,into the wind, even the extreme (sorry discraft reference,but nothing innova has is as stable in my opinion,,if there is tell me)ended up looking like a beat up 40 mold back in the day I remember similar situations where that old bead whippet was the trick maybe a CFR program or limited run/special edition...throw me a bone __________________ My DiscGolf Motto:NEVER PAY TO BE MISERABLE.you can be miserable for free somewhere else

May 01 2009, 10:31 PM	#9600
J_VanOver Community Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 57	Type XT Bag When will the Innova Type XT bag that was given to players at the 2008 Japan Open in the players pack be released for sale to the public? I've only used mine a couple of times but I'm getting ready to take mine to a tournament this weekend and that made me think about it again.

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Apr 29 2009, 05:15 PM	#9571
dehaas Community Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lebanon, IL Posts: 107	I ran home on my lunch break because my package with my rw pro aviar came in the mail. Definitely very grippy plastic...looks like it's gonna be an awesome putter. I was actually suprised at how firm the putter was, maybe because mine was a 175. I'd imagine that the wood composite was blended in to keep some firmness in the disc while still having great grip. I won't get a chance to throw it until first thing tomorrow morning, but I'll post back with some thoughts afterwards.

Apr 29 2009, 06:50 PM	#9572
jgillia Community Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: AusTiN, Tx Posts: 56	I just received my RW-Pro Rancho Roc and the baby is suuuuuuhweet!! Dave, is there a production run of the RW-Pro blend being scheduled?!!?

Apr 30 2009, 07:51 AM	#9578
Karma Police PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisco Posts: 644	Aced w/ my RW-Pro Ontario Roc on it's 2nd throw yesterday. The feel of this disc is sweet. The aviar is very nice also. Rancho Roc is not as firm as the other two but is very, very flat. Definitely should make some more discs in this plastic!

Apr 30 2009, 12:14 PM	#9580
dehaas Community Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lebanon, IL Posts: 107	I played a round with my RW pro aviar this morning and loved it. It flew very true and had better grip than my jk in the wetness. I'm defninitely going to order a few more as backups. I can't say my deluxe bag held up as well though. Halfway through the round one of the loops that my quad shocks attach to ripped. This bag was a replacement of another that had the same issue. So now I'm a day and a half away from an A-tier scrambling to find a decent bag.

May 01 2009, 09:02 AM	#9584
twoputtok PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tulsa Ok. Posts: 10,360	Great news, then mine should be on the way.

May 01 2009, 09:03 AM	#9585
johnrock PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Rock Yard Amarillo, Texas Posts: 1,432	Did I just read back there somewhere that there was going to be a "Doss" stamp on one of the new Rocs? Is he part of Team Innova now?

May 01 2009, 09:34 AM	#9586
twoputtok PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tulsa Ok. Posts: 10,360	You are correct

May 01 2009, 09:47 AM	#9587
johnrock PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Rock Yard Amarillo, Texas Posts: 1,432	Wow. Do all Big D team members secretly wish to be a part of the BIG I?

May 01 2009, 10:17 AM	#9588
T Wrecks Community Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Holland, Mi Posts: 56	I highly doubt that Doss is now throwing for Team Innova. I think that he has a stamp because he won the USDGC last year. I'm merely speculating here, but the only Discraft player I know of jumping ship is Bennett, but it was an all around better deal for him the long run.

May 01 2009, 10:42 AM	#9590
DSproAVIAR PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Skillet Posts: 2,506	Bennett went to Gateway

May 01 2009, 11:15 AM	#9592
shteev Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lynchburg, VIrginia Posts: 137	so who do i have to talk to to be able to get my hands on one of these beauties without getting my wallet emptied? will they be for sale at a legitimate price anywhere? and dont say "just go to the show" b/c i will be awfully busy with a new young boy and completely unable to do anything out of state much less out of house. duh duh duuuhhn

May 01 2009, 11:44 AM	#9593
twoputtok PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tulsa Ok. Posts: 10,360	Not sure if any will make it to the general public release. Usually the partners buy the entire runs of all stamps before they can get to the public. Right after they are released they will be at their highest prices, then they seem to come back down to a reasonable amount after a month or two. Just be patient....................... I'm waiting on mine ot arrive.

May 01 2009, 02:52 PM	#9594
33009 PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boise Idaho Posts: 57	just got my 2 RW ranchos yesterday on my B day, what a nice present to my self lol. absolutely love them especially since im a flat top roc fan... just ordered 4 more