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Old Nov 13 2006, 06:41 PM   #61
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Is everyone buying this 140+ aces in 2 years business?
I mean, come on, can you really play that many rounds in a day, in winter even, and still have time to set up the camera for every shot? I think not!

This guys videos have come up recently on on our own website forum. Some pretty interesting and funny comments.
If the aces are all legit, he should be in Ripleys Believe It or Not and The Gunness Book of World Records!

http://www.milehighdiscgolf.org/phpB...?p=14405#14405
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Old Nov 13 2006, 07:44 PM   #62
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Is it possible that this guy is just good at editing? I mean, say he records himself walking from the camera to the tee. Then he (sorta) looks like he's throwing a shot (I say sorta, because usually he's so out of focus that you can't tell). Then he gets behind a tree (Suspiciously, there are very few without any obsticles, always lots of trees....) and tosses one in with some zip. A little editiing, and voila! An ace a day keeps the doctor away!

This is certainly a novice opinion, but unless you threw a million disks, even from 200 feet, you're not going to get an ace a day. Just my thoughts.

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P.S.... How long has he been playing? Why have all his aces come within the last year and a half (Or so)? You have to play for YEARS to get good enough to think about acing even once a month, so why all the sudden he's just getting aces all the time? None of it makes much sense.
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Old Nov 13 2006, 10:48 PM   #63
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I watch his videos and don't really care if he's doctoring them or not . . . what's the difference. There's some really funny on those videos. I love when he throws the disc and then plants his left foot way out -- looks like some sort of a pointer.

I hope he makes 1000 aces -- they're fun to watch. I forget which one it was but when someone else was filming one he yelled "LET'S GO DOWN TO THE BASKET". That's great stuff.

Listen after he makes his walks up when he's filming -- I love the way every one starts with "OK, Cubby gets his ______th disc golf hole in one with a ___________, that was sweet!"

I say -- make more videos Cubby.

If he's faking them he's gotten real good at it. He's all over my neighborhood. If he can fake them that well he should set it up so that you could get your own "ace" video'd. I'd give him some money to fake a film of me getting an ace.
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Old Nov 13 2006, 11:43 PM   #64
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I vote fake.

Then again that is what I said about the video of my girlfriend cheating on me... just kidding... no but seriously... that sucked.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 06:08 AM   #65
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Old Nov 14 2006, 06:47 AM   #66
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I know Cubby he's a nice guy, here's a tourney from years ago I was in Cubby's group, Advanced Masters.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tourn...nced%20Masters

Not too proud of my DFL though
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Old Nov 14 2006, 07:28 AM   #67
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I've played hundreds of round with Cubby and have witnessed over 50 of his aces. This guy is for real. He has a passion (obsession?) for aces. He does not set up the camera on every hole, only those of about 275' or so and he does not record at all on most rounds, although he has many aces on video, it's only a handful of what he gets.
As far as how many rounds he plays, that's another story. He plays almost every spare minute he has, He plays all hours of the day and night. During night rounds he tapes glow sticks on his disc to make it easier to find them in the dark.
He plays many different courses and aces in many different way's: righty, lefty (he can drive with either hand) skip shot, hyzer and anhyzer.
Some people are turned off by his videos but He's sharing what he loves on the internet, I think it's cool.
Believe me, He's for real.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 12:53 PM   #68
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At least a few of these video's are fake fake fake.

Why the differing quality of camera?

Why is Cubby almost always obscured from view.

Ace number 136 video...come on you have zero detection of the disc being thrown, and it fades into the picture, as in you dont see it at the beginning of the throw til the end.

Also if you watch Cubby walking around before his "throw" you will see that the picture flickers and pops once or twice.

These are tell tale signs of fakies....

...talk about low self esteem...
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Old Nov 14 2006, 01:42 PM   #69
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I'd give him some money to fake a film of me getting an ace.
If you would do that, then you're sad. I got my first ace a week or so ago, and what a feeling...! To fake a video of you doing something that some people go their whole LIVES without doing is sad and detremental to the sport.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 01:43 PM   #70
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At least a few of these video's are fake fake fake.

Why the differing quality of camera?

Why is Cubby almost always obscured from view.

Ace number 136 video...come on you have zero detection of the disc being thrown, and it fades into the picture, as in you dont see it at the beginning of the throw til the end.

Also if you watch Cubby walking around before his "throw" you will see that the picture flickers and pops once or twice.

These are tell tale signs of fakies....

...talk about low self esteem...
I'm not calling anyone a liar, but #136 does look strange. Replaying the ace, it looks like cubby disappears right before the disc hits the chains. Definately fishy, but with low quality youtube, who knows.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 01:54 PM   #71
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I haven't watched that particular video, so I can't comment on the quality, but I've played enough rounds with Cubby and seen enough of his aces in person to know that he has no reason to make a fake video of one.

The guy works crazy hours at work, so he only goes out once a week at most but plays for like 24 hours straight, 30+ rounds at a time. His joy in disc golf comes from getting aces, so he plays shorter par 3 courses as many rounds as he possibly can.

(He's also an amazing putter. Anything he doesn't ace he usually flys by on, so he's gotten used to making 40-50 foot comebacks look elementary.)
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Old Nov 14 2006, 02:11 PM   #72
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Listen after he makes his walks up when he's filming -- I love the way every one starts with "OK, Cubby gets his ______th disc golf hole in one with a ___________, that was sweet!"

I love the fact that he refers to himself in the third person!
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Old Nov 14 2006, 04:01 PM   #73
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I have to tell you, since I know Cubby, the fact that he refers to himself in the third person I can vouch for. I did a round with him and he was always saying "Come on Cubby" and when he missed he was like "Oh, Cubby." By the end of the round I was doing the same thing, only I was saying Cubby, and a third guy joked and said Cubby for himself too.

No really, Cubby is a great guy and I don't know how he got all these aces but I don't think he faked them.

Rutgers is a really short course, people get 38 on it and stuff.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 04:06 PM   #74
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At least a few of these video's are fake fake fake.

These are tell tale signs of fakies....

...talk about low self esteem...
I know many people that have witnessed Carl's aces and can guarantee they are legit. I've known the guy for almost ten years and can vouch for him being a man of honor. This is an absurd accusation.

As previously mentioned, with Carl's work schedule, he can only play disc golf on his days off, but when he plays, he goes all day - a dozen or more rounds in succession. He will start early in the morning, even before the sun comes up, and sometimes plays well into the nighttime. The course at which he plays, Rutgers University, is well lit on almost the entire course.

From the tee signs, the course is one of the shortest you'll ever see. It's longest hole is 230 feet, and the total course length for 18 holes is somewhere around 3500 feet. You can shoot in the low 40s on the course with just a putter, and there is a righty hyzer lane available on the drive on just about every hole.

This course is the closest to Carl geographically and allows the most "bang for his buck" - he can play the most amount of golf in the time he spends. With Carl's playing routine and the short nature of the course, he has attained a prolific groove that is unrivaled in disc golf, imo. With an enormous amount of practice, he has honed each and every drive on all 18 holes. He knows exactly which disc to throw and how hard to deliver it. He primarily uses Champion Firebirds which can attain the most consistency. He has scored several aces per day on several occasions, and shot more than 50 aces in one year!

There's been some banter before on this and other message boards about this. I've suggested that all that practice and all those aces have only allowed him to become an expert on that particular layout. I maintain that it does not help to make him become a better OVERALL disc golfer, especially on courses with longer (350' and up) holes. To wit, I've not gotten the indication that he does any better on the B and C tee layouts at that course, (which are much longer, and which he rarely plays) or that the skills translate to better play at other disc golf courses, especially much longer courses. And personally, I don't see the enjoyment in playing nothing but "pitch-n-putt" disc golf.

But the bottom line is that this is the kind of golf that makes him happy, and there's no denying that aces are exciting. And the sheer volume at which Carl attains aces is a tremendous feat, that again, I think is unrivaled in all of disc golf.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 04:08 PM   #75
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This is the first time I ever agreed with Lung on anything
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Old Nov 14 2006, 04:10 PM   #76
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Makes me want to fly out there and move each basket just 3 feet some night
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Old Nov 14 2006, 05:02 PM   #77
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At least a few of these video's are fake fake fake.

Why the differing quality of camera?

Why is Cubby almost always obscured from view.

Ace number 136 video...come on you have zero detection of the disc being thrown, and it fades into the picture, as in you dont see it at the beginning of the throw til the end.

Also if you watch Cubby walking around before his "throw" you will see that the picture flickers and pops once or twice.

These are tell tale signs of fakies....

...talk about low self esteem...
I'm not calling anyone a liar, but #136 does look strange. Replaying the ace, it looks like cubby disappears right before the disc hits the chains. Definately fishy, but with low quality youtube, who knows.
Exactly.. cubby moves weirdly and flickers in and out of view. I don't want to spend any actual time on this, i.e. looking at this thing frame by frame, but I bet you anthing that this is his little joke...

...harmless joke...cool joke to watch...but a joke none the less.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 05:55 PM   #78
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Old Nov 14 2006, 06:03 PM   #79
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well... im sold now... good shooting cubby.

I do have one question though. Where did someone get 15 aces in a tourny? Someone a few posts up said this.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 07:06 PM   #80
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I do have one question though. Where did someone get 15 aces in a tourny? Someone a few posts up said this.
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Old Nov 14 2006, 08:56 PM   #81
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He was joking about the 15, ha ha
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Old Nov 14 2006, 10:00 PM   #82
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IM sorry, but look at 136....

OK, the quality is crappy, but as he throws, he flickers in a way that doesnt happen ANYWHERE on the screen, at ANY time during the whole video. And the disc comes out of nowhere. Sorry, I'm not sold.

But who cares? I know he doesn't. He's having fun getting (possibly) holes in one's (maybe...?)

This mystery will never be solved!

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Old Nov 14 2006, 10:04 PM   #83
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You GO Cubby keep sending those videos!! The music he puts to 'em and the way he walks up and talks all goes together, freakin good stuff! Your alright Cubby!
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Old Nov 21 2006, 09:07 AM   #84
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I know Cubby...just watched him ace hole 1 and hole 16 at Newport News just before the tournament...the guy is legit all the way. I think he said that was ace 141 & 142. That being said, I don't know how many shots he's taking sometimes just to get the ace on camera, but ... an ace ia an ace.

Another thing to think about is this, these vid's that cubby does are with a digital camera...they suffer from a low frame rate and that can cause the "jumping" around.
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Old Nov 21 2006, 05:43 PM   #85
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At least a few of these video's are fake fake fake.

...talk about low self esteem...
Accusing someone else of cheating . . . tut tut. How can you even see if he has a splinter in his eye ?
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Old Dec 01 2006, 02:03 PM   #86
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oops! The following links are not DG related...

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Old Dec 01 2006, 02:09 PM   #87
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiFr81WwyVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aAFc...elated&search=
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Old Dec 01 2006, 02:16 PM   #88
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Mother-scratcher!! If THAT doesn't make it into my dreams tonight...OMG!!

ps...Thanks Joe! Coming to KC anytime soon?
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Old Dec 01 2006, 02:22 PM   #89
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That is crazy!
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Old Dec 01 2006, 02:40 PM   #90
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whassup doc!
no plans for KC in the foreseeable future sadly- holding it down here in lansing mich for another 3yrs then back to montanny for this-- (I'm last on the vid...)
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