[davei]

robj, most drivers are nose dependent, especially low profile, sharper nosed drivers. It doesn't matter which particular characterist. A Monster is very nose dependent as is a Sidewinder. A Sidewinder can be thrown slightly nose up as the characteristic turn will allow it to bring its own nose down as it turns. The Monster is DOA with nose up, and will be going hard left (RHBH). In term of how much finesse a disc requires: I think it depends on the rate of turn and the domeyness of the individual disc. IMO, domey discs make better finesse discs as they are easier to read and fade back more predictably. It used to be the case that a domier disc would invariably have more high speed turn. But that is not always the case anymore with high speed drivers.