Pimp, you are right! I know I just lost my stars for agreeing with you, but when I was going to buy my first bag a good friend told me to "save yourself some money and get a Revo. bag" I wish I would've listened, b/c I WASTED 40$ on that other bag. Sorry, but Innova makes THE BEST DISCS, but stick to what you're already great at. I love my Carolina Team Bag and will never buy another brand again!