I think Daves concern is people that are not on this board,don't play tournaments, and just play rec golf recognize the name aerobie vs innova. Super flights (aerobie) sells to every retail store that sells sporting goods in the country and world. They are selling in 31 countries. So if I am Joe blow (who knows nothing about the game other than what my friend at school told me) and go into Sports Authority or Big 5 and see two brands of golf discs on the shelf one is Innova and one is Aerobie. I am going to buy the aerobie because I know how far the ring goes and I have never heard of innova.

Nick is totally right about the 1983 eagle. It was something completely new and different that is allegedly why it was able to get a patent. The Epic is the same thing that is why it got a patent.

I think Dave is upset because he didn't think of it and now if he wants to come up with something similar he will have to pay a licensing fee just like he made everyone else do.

This is just another stepping stone in the game that might work or it might not.