Re: Question for Dave D
motley, the first run blueberry Valks were flippy, domey, and translucent in lighter weights, but were flatter and more opaque in heavier weights (170 gms plus). All were a rich blueberry color and had sharp edges too. The Stingrays sound like SEs. There were a limited amount run as they were very difficult to run at the time. We may do a Stingray version in Champion plastic in the future. For now, it would be difficult to find any of the SEs. The closest thing we have now is the Champion Cobra.
By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.