You know it is people like you that get under my skin! What I said was "let the public have them" that does not mean go to a super tour and spend $25 bucks on one. Rick, you know that you would love to spend $15 dollars and get one. I will just throw the WASP I guess. Maybe I will go all discraft! Rick do you work for Innova? What is the "great cause", the USDGC? How about the most important "cause" my wallet!

Smitty