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Old Jun 30 2012, 10:35 AM   #12797
AviarX
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There are some anecdotal accounts of Metal Flake being a little more stable and my limited experience indicates the same. But, I am not prepared to say that it is a general trend at this point. I am just beginning to get to the point of throwing well enough to properly test these.

The extra price was due to several things, some of those, have gone away and they are priced closer than they used to be. Star is softer and grippier which dictates longer cycle times for Star. Our Champion used to be less grippy, but has gotten much better over the years. We are in the process of switching to a new Champion that seems to be even better for grip and appearance. That will put more pressure on the Star to be as grippy as possible. Look for Star to become softer and grippier in the future.
The metal flake Roadrunner I picked up yesterday does seem a bit more stable, but I have not thrown it a lot yet. It also has very sweet grippiness (Not gummy but a bit towards that side of the continuum).

I have talked to a few people and there seems to be somewhat of a limited, anecdotal concensus that Star and Champ should be on equal price footing or maybe champion slightly more expensive, but that of course is from a user rather than a manufacturing perspective (and seems to be mainly based on a perceived superiority of champ in terms of durabilty and break-in resistance -- when it comes to grip and glide Star seems to have the edge). And, if Star costs more to make then a higher price point makes a lot of sense.

In your opinion, was there anything special about the Tulsa SB Orcs? The blue ones I have (and I have almost run out of them) seem even more durable than Champion and have the great grip and glide. They are the one Stars I have thrown which I find more desirable than Champion. Fortunately I have several pearly Champ Orcs which I love as well.

Any plans for a 30th anniversary Aviar? Maybe similar to the 20th anniversary limited edition ones -- or -- maybe just a common small added stamp for *all Aviar models* run for 2013 like "30th year anniversary". (Not sure if that would be easier than re-doing a whole hotstamp or if re-doing hotstamps is much of a cost...)

Thanks for your time and input -- it is spectacular what you do here!

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