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Originally Posted by davei
l don't mind the question at all but i don't understand the clock reference. Do you mean where your thumb is pointing on a horizontal clock with 6:00 being straight at the target?
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I meant where my grip intersects the disc, and using reference to a horizontal clock. (taking the disc to be a clock with 12 being the forward edge and 6 being the trailing edge. When the disc passes my side my grip of the disc is at 9 oclock (wrist is cocked). at that point my thumb is pointing maybe at 2. At release in my present, no doubt flawed, technique my grip is at 7:30 (with thumb pointing at about 1:30). I think I have been trying to push the disc too far behind the first (aka: biggest) knuckle and that puts the knife edge into the web of my hand. With a lid that isn't so uncomfortable... I have a bad habit with backhand and forehand of feeling the (tight) grip pressure in the outer edge of the rim rather than the inner edge. i guess the focus should be on the inner rim(?) and with wider discs that is also a far more comfortable side to grip tightly. that would allow me not to .c.ock the wrist as much and so the grip would be more at 8 when it passes my side and more near 6 (thumb pointing at 12 or forward) upon release. hope this is somewhat clear... a looser grip will result too -- which may not be bad at all...
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At any rate, yes your arm should be almost fully extended at the hit. And yes, the finger pad pressure and the thumb pad pressure should be controlling the hit. The middle finger pad and the thumb pad would be the last to touch the disc. The thumb controls the power of the grip.
The driver rim bottom edge should be between the fist knuckle and the second knuckle of the index. With older smaller rimmed discs, you could put it behind the fist knuckle, but with the newer wider rimmed discs, it would be very difficult. The point of the knuckle grip is to lock the disc in place, before rotation and snap. It is not a place the disc snaps from ultimately. This is akin to the baby and third fingers acting as a locking device for the backhand.
As an aside, Mike Berry throws excellent sidearm and has the rim bottom hitting between the distal and penultimate knuckles of the index. I tried that but couldn't make it work consistently for me.
Whipping as late as possible, and out in front of you, takes pressure off your rotator cuff and mandates a quick snap. The quick snap is very desirable for acceleration, and accuracy.
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