Originally Posted by cgkdisc
As I pointed out before, the problem is the tee time format can be less fair in the first place. If anything, touring players should lobby against them, especially in areas where wind is likely to be a key variable for the type of course played. At least ball golf tries to average out the wind by keeping playinggroups together for two rounds and flipping the playing order betwen R1 and R2.
Ratings can also be less fair as a result. You don't break up the scores in a division and make adjustments based on wind conditions changing over the day (and you actually get paid out based on those), so why would you expect ratings to be done better than the actual scores? Roger doesn't mind taking a look at the SSA breakouts if the data is made available. But the PDGA hasn't mandated that TDs do that level of effort by sending in the tournament report with hour by hour groupings.
As far as the ratings range, 24-hole courses will produce a narrower range than 18 holes and higher SSA courses also narrow the range. The wind boosted the SSA in the final round and narrowed the range further.
Would it make sense then to break up ratings based on pools regardless of how close the SSA may have been between the two. The tee times ranged from 7:35 to 12;05 with the wind not breaking 10mph until 10am and at 12 it was This has happened the past 3 years and it would seem a refined ratings structure would take thiese variances into effect when instead there is a 2 stroke leeway given when the courses plau totallly different within each pool.
In my opinion there needs to be some acknoledgement given for changes like today when at 9am a 1000 rated player could hit 70-75% from 30ft and at 12-4 that went to about 25% with most being lucky to hit 70% from 12ft. When players are triple putting from within the circle on every hole vs morning rounds where not only putting but driving was easier it would seem a system which now plays a key role in determining the POY and ROY would have a way to show such differences.
400ft was crazy distance with 340ft being pretty good into the 35mph gusts with most players flipping over within 300ft.......950+ golfers when in the morning an Int player could throw that with ease!