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. When were the original mold Preds produced?
2. In what plastics?
3. How many runs?
4. Am I likely to find an OP Z?
The old mold predator was done in x plastic first run only.
The only way to tell a first run is there is no stability rating printed on the disc.
The subsequent runs have a little added to the bottom of the lip. They stand a bit taller when laid flat.
most of the first run Z preds are ghost stamped with a z in the middle. they are all the new mold, I have a proto z pred that is the new mold also.
Yes the tsunami is the old mold pred in better plastic, I carry 3 in my bag. I used up almost all my old mold preds, and switched to the tsunami because I never see them on ebay. Im kinda glad I ran out tsunamis season really well, my old mold X preds never really did.
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Good write up. One thing of significance is that the first run Predator was the longest disc on the market when it came out. CR Willey, Discraft pro, still uses them as his main drivers. He can go 400' on a line drive forehand with them. I also don't think the Tsunami mold is the original Predator mold, I believe I once heard that the mold is gone and the Tsunami mold was an intentional reproduction of the original.
If anyone is curious about Tsunamis...they are great discs. I get far better flights from them than I ever could get out of an Avenger. The Tsunami glides much better. The older Tsunamis feel like CE plastic and are very dependable. They lack a little glide, but instead provide real predictablity. They start out just about as stable as an average Predator. They flip slow when they do break in and are capable of becoming a disc that flies with virtually no turn/fade. I have one that that looks exactly like a buddy's seasoned CE TB in flight. Get flat, stay flat. That being said, I have 4 of those and none are in my bag currently (they are not for sale though). Right now I prefer the newer run Tsunamis (stiff ESP). These are faster and glide better. They also start out a little straighter. The one in my bag is broken in to frozen rope status, but I still have to throw it with some pop. I appreciate this as it is still a good disc in the wind. I love this disc, although it seems undervalued (I may be the only one in my county with one in their bag). As a reformed Teebird thrower, this is the closest thing Discraft makes to the Teebird.