I have seen the new 13 and 14 improvements. I guess its just the overall holes that I don't like. There is such amazing land back there, I would have liked to see it used better I guess??
And I 4'd it on Thursday during my red tee round...it was the only hole I played from the white tee because I thought it was kinda lame from red.
I had a streak before the hole was cleared of 6 birdies in a row from the blue tee. That was when it was really nasty. I don't believe I have ever bogeyd it in the 30 rounds I have played there??