i'm just extremely tired of people approaching me and basically snubbing me for not throwing a destroyer. it's not that special. the fact that people are making such a huge deal about buying and selling champ and star ones is just stupid. who really cares? sure, i can accept that it's a newer, faster flying disc but people have been so pushy with it lately that i'm ready to buy a stack of champ destroyers and burn them in a pile.