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ck34 · Mar 22 2007, 02:34 PM

On a regular par 3 that's the same length as these island holes, if you teed off and landed near the hole for a 40-footer, I think you would be upset that you had to go back to the tee because it would feel like 1-shot penalty. While I understand the idea of getting the penalty on the first tee and not on shots 2 & 3, it still means you need an extraordinary shot (field ace) not just a great shot like most holes to save a 3. I think if the chance of going OB off the tee is maybe 1 out of 20 shots, then maybe having the penalty on the first throw makes sense.

The one thing about our island holes is that players have a much higher chance of missing a 10m radius circle than tournament ball golfers seem to have missing their island greens. Seems like they miss maybe 1 in 12 to 1 in 20 depending on wind. It's not uncommon for our Gold players to miss 1 in 2 to 1 in 4. So our challenge and resulting penalties are higher to start with if both the shot and distance penalty is applied.

Mar 22 2007, 02:34 PM	#3
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Island Greens On a regular par 3 that's the same length as these island holes, if you teed off and landed near the hole for a 40-footer, I think you would be upset that you had to go back to the tee because it would feel like 1-shot penalty. While I understand the idea of getting the penalty on the first tee and not on shots 2 & 3, it still means you need an extraordinary shot (field ace) not just a great shot like most holes to save a 3. I think if the chance of going OB off the tee is maybe 1 out of 20 shots, then maybe having the penalty on the first throw makes sense. The one thing about our island holes is that players have a much higher chance of missing a 10m radius circle than tournament ball golfers seem to have missing their island greens. Seems like they miss maybe 1 in 12 to 1 in 20 depending on wind. It's not uncommon for our Gold players to miss 1 in 2 to 1 in 4. So our challenge and resulting penalties are higher to start with if both the shot and distance penalty is applied.