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chris Dec 22 2010 05:45 PM

PDGA Wins
 
Who are the players who have won 15 or more PDGA tournaments in a year in the MPO division?
I believe Barry Schultz, Nikko Lacastro, Geoff Bennett & Coda Hatfield have done it, who else??

james_mccaine Dec 22 2010 06:00 PM

I'd be surprised if Climo isn't on that list. Mitch McLellan also.

cgkdisc Dec 22 2010 06:19 PM

Depends on how far back you go. Even Tom Monroe, Greenwell, Hosfeld, Stokely, Randolph, Lissaman might be on that list when they were touring.

MTL21676 Dec 22 2010 08:58 PM

I think wins is the most overrated stat in our sport. If the top players played local events only, they would each have 25 - 30 a year.

A Tier, NT and major wins and money earnings are the important figures in our sport.

james_mccaine Dec 22 2010 09:29 PM

Not all wins are equal for sure, but 15 wins in any competitive region is quite an accomplishment. John Brooks is probably another.

MTL21676 Dec 22 2010 10:38 PM

Schwebby had 15+ in 2008.

I'm sure Larry Leonard has done it as well.

johnbiscoe Dec 24 2010 08:49 AM

moser certainly has done it...

jmonny Dec 25 2010 10:43 AM

I'm a stats guy and one thing this sport lacks is a goto stats/records site. Hosfeld had a
page of records that was cool but was only current thru 2000. I wish I had the resources to make this happen, maybe one day.

james_mccaine Dec 26 2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmonny (Post 1445854)
I'm a stats guy and one thing this sport lacks is a goto stats/records site.

So true. It would be a good for the sport to have this stuff, but not sure how it gets done.

chris Dec 27 2010 09:37 AM

Looks like Moser's high is 11 wins

McCabe Dec 27 2010 09:33 PM

I think I did this in 2008.

drdisc Dec 27 2010 11:34 PM

Before the PDGA ,we had IFA Frisbee Golf Events.

chris Dec 28 2010 04:34 PM

What is the longest streak of Open Wins people have had??

jmonny Dec 28 2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 1445986)
What is the longest streak of Open Wins people have had??

I think (fill in the blank) had _ wins in a row in (random year).

You're gonna get a lot of guestimates here. Put in the effort and figure it out.

gdstour Dec 29 2010 01:20 AM

Justin Bunnell won 3 A-tiers in a row a few years ago,,,maybe 2007.

what about Total PDGA wins???

I know John E McCray has a little over 100!

I think Nikko is at like 48 in 4-1/2 years.

schick Dec 29 2010 01:28 AM

My best was in '08 with 6 wins in a row I believe. The dates are all messed up, but I seem to remember going for 7 in a row and getting 2nd. Of course a lot of those are local wins and smaller tourneys so they are not as impressive as others who may get three or four big wins in a row like Justin! :-)

I tried to add up my Open wins from the PDGA stats and it looks like around 70. I know there are others before the 2001 dates that are listed, so it may be up around 80+. I think my first open tournament was in '96 so who knows, wish I had kept better stats myself.

I would think people like Moser, Schweb, Rico, and Schultz would have well over 100 career wins as well.

schick Dec 29 2010 01:49 AM

After quickly looking, Schwebby is very near 100 wins as well. I would also bet Geoff Bennett has to be up on that list and he didn't start competing in the Open until around '06 maybe?

johnbiscoe Dec 29 2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 1445896)
Looks like Moser's high is 11 wins

my guess would be he had years with more than that prior to the pdga getting the results online...

gotcha Dec 30 2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnbiscoe (Post 1446019)
my guess would be he had years with more than that prior to the pdga getting the results online...

I concur.

snoophaney Jan 04 2011 06:03 PM

Pretty sure that Larry Leonard is over 100 wins for his career. Also, he has won 7 PDGA's in a row and has had around 11 wins in a season.

I would bet that Mela has to be in the conversation as well.

michaeljo Jan 05 2011 11:20 AM

i did 15 in 09, somewhere in the 50s in wins.

johnbiscoe Jan 05 2011 02:19 PM

snoop and MJ- boy- they're really coming out of the woodwork... :)

MTL21676 Jan 05 2011 03:40 PM

pretty soon zzzeezzz might even post.

dionarlyn Jan 05 2011 04:27 PM

2010 was my fourth season in the Open division and my best year to date.

I won a total of 12/33 Events and my longest streak was 3 wins in a row. All my wins are in the NW and many of them were small C tiers with little competition. A few of my wins were against pretty solid fields. Not quite 15 wins in a season, but I'm pretty stoked considering I'd only won 5 events total before this season.

I too am a stats guy, so here is a breakdown of stats from my season - I think this format would be condusive to seeing how strong a win is and determining who the real best players are. Again, I had a lot of wins this season, but many of them were against small fields with low field strength.

Here are a few wins I had this season. The stats I feel are important to include are:
Field Size
Field Strength (Average Rating of Players)
# of 1000 Players in the Field
Highest Rated Player in the Field
Winning Score
Rating of Winning Score
Win Margin
1st Place Prize Money

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Event Name | Date | Location | Tier | Rounds | Field Size | Field Strength | 1000 RP | Highest RP | Winning Score | R Winning Score | Win Margin | Prize
The Winter Flurry at Sumner Meadows | Feb. 13 | Sumner, WA | C | 2 | 16 | 980.25 | 2 | 1027 | 95 | 1022 | 3 | $195

Special Olympics Fundraiser | Sept. 5 | McMinnville, OR | C | 2 | 4 | 971.25 | 1 | 1011 | 97 | 1049 | 6 | $84

Oregon Disc Golf Championships | Sept. 18-19 | Goble, OR | B | 3/F9 | 35 | 980.37 | 7 | 1022 | 202 | 1015 | 1 | $600

Wish I could align the columns better so its easier to read, sorry.

I bet if you take a sampling of Nikkos wins you see much larger and stronger field strengths, More 1000 rated players, bigger win margins and way bigger prize money. As to be expected.

schick Jan 05 2011 08:05 PM

Snoop, come back man.....miss seeing you around! Hope all is well buddy. If you see Larry, tell him to put the video game controller down and get out too! :-)

snoophaney Jan 06 2011 10:47 PM

Thanks Brad. I miss being out there sometimes. It's been a rough 4 years, lots of changes in my life and still dealing with a bad knee. Getting old I guess. Looking forward to playing more golf real soon. LL is in his own world, no help there. :)

mattdisc Jan 07 2011 08:18 AM

Great to hear from the Snoop! LL is still alive??

Betcha Joe Mela is well over 100 wins, he has been dominant in the Northeast since 1986. Moser, Jim Myers & Craig Gangloff should be above or near 100 as well.

How about wins at one event? Mela has won the Joisey Jam 13 times over the years!

snoophaney Jan 07 2011 02:04 PM

...excluding Ken of course.
LL has probably won the Horizons, Sneeky Pete and the NC States tournaments more than anyone else. Probably looking around 25 wins or more between the 3.

johnbiscoe Jan 07 2011 03:06 PM

you and LL making a vti appearance this year?

snoophaney Jan 07 2011 07:39 PM

What's in it for me? :)


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