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askmifo
Sep 15 2008, 08:54 AM
As most players, I have severe problems with my backhand grip when playing in rainy weather. It does not matter if I have numerous towels, golf king size umbrella, and so on. I simply feel unsecure about my grip, and tend to release way too early. I often end up driving with forehand instead.
I have not found any rule that says you can't use a golf glove, to enhance the grip.
My questions are then:
-Is it OK to use a rain glove for golf ?
-If so, have you guys tried any that you can recommend? FootJoy have their rain gloves, and Fit39 have one that is fit very tight round your palm. I think the upside with better grip might be better than the downside with a slight loss of feel.
But, since I have not tried it yet, what's your advice?
(Besides keeping discs dry of course... :-) )
rollinghedge
Sep 15 2008, 09:15 AM
802.04 Artificial Devices
A. During a round, a player shall not use any artificial device that may assist in making a throw, except those devices that reduce or control abrasion to the skin (such as gloves, tape, bandages, gauze, etc.) and medical items (such as knee and ankle braces, etc.). Items used to prevent slipping on the teeing surface are also allowed. A player is specifically prohibited from using any artificial device that changes the position of the disc in the player’s hand or artificially lengthens any of the player’s throwing levers (fingers, wrist, arm, shoulder, etc.). The use of devices which assist in determining distances over 10 meters, such as range finders and GPS devices are prohibited. Measuring devices such as a tape measure may be carried and used to determine distances 10 meters and less for the purpose of rules enforcement.
B. A player shall receive two penalty throws, without a warning, if, during any portion of a round, he or she is observed by two players or an official to be using or carrying an artificial device that is determined by the director to violate section 802.04 A. A player who uses an artificial device after it has been determined by the director to be in violation of 802.04 A has also violated 804.05 A (3) and shall be penalized accordingly.
Never tried using one before, I think Tom Monroe (#33) down in Birmingham uses one sometimes, probably just a random ball golf glove.
gdstour
Sep 15 2008, 10:32 AM
There are 2 gloves that I have used when it is cold out that are awesome one is leather and the other is Spandex/lycra with leather pads on the finger tips.
Both are for regular golf and can be found at most high end golf shops. Nike, Titleist and callaway make great golf gloves and they retail for about $8-$12
None of them will work well if they get too wet, but you can use another looser fitting ski glove over it to help keep it from getting wet.
As long as you keep the glove dry and get over the fact that you have a glove on, I found that using a glove can really help in in climate weather,, Good golf gloves allow you to have a great feel for the discs because of how thin they are, but once they are wet they will not work so well.
There are some gloves that are made for working in the rain and other sports like goalie gloves and moto-cross that are somewhat waterproof, but they do not offer anywhere near the feel needed for putting, though you may be able to use them for driving!
here is a link to a golf glove that I have not tried, it looks like it should be fairly waterproof:
http://www.golfjoy.com/Nike/Golf_Gloves/Dri-FIT_Tour_Golf_Glove.htm
Birdie
Sep 15 2008, 10:41 AM
The problem you are having will not be fixed by using a glove.
You are uncomfortable with the rain so you think about it, or think about not thinking about it...
Wet hands/disc or gloves, I think you will still be questioning your grip. And that is the true problem.
Tell yourself that your grip is good and it will be.
Think your grip is bad and it will be.
Eliminate negative thoughts.
abee1010
Sep 15 2008, 11:01 AM
Another thing that helps my release in the rain is to slow every thing down. You're not going to get great grip in the rain no matter what you do. If you are trying to throw as hard or fast as you normally do your disc will slip out early everytime. So, club down and take a little off it and you should be fine without a glove...
rollinghedge
Sep 15 2008, 11:03 AM
and throw a lot of DX plastic for the best grip.
curt
Sep 15 2008, 12:32 PM
One thing that really helps me in the rain, that I don't see many players doing is to only dry off the part of the disc that your hand is going to be on when driving. The benefit of this is that your towels will last much longer and be dryer when your using them and get the water off the discs better. Also, I totally agree that slowing things down helps a lot (I often play better in the rain actually b/c of this)
JerryChesterson
Sep 15 2008, 01:51 PM
Just throw FLX plastic. It rocks cold and wet weather.
gnduke
Sep 15 2008, 02:06 PM
I've used GOJO SureGrip mechanics gloves for years. They offer about the same traction in the rain as bare hands to in dry weather. Maybe a little more grip than dry hands on champion plastic.
I found them for about $12 a few years ago and bought several pairs. I would think most similar products would offer similar performance.
mikeP
Sep 15 2008, 02:23 PM
Another thing that helps my release in the rain is to slow every thing down. You're not going to get great grip in the rain no matter what you do. If you are trying to throw as hard or fast as you normally do your disc will slip out early everytime. So, club down and take a little off it and you should be fine without a glove...
This has worked for me. I make sure I have lots of microfiber towels (they last 3-4 times longer before saturation) and I use a golf umbrella. Besides the advice given in the quote, I also make sure to stay AS DRY AS POSSIBLE. Never stand in the open, always keep under whatever cover there is.
One last thing: gloves don't work at all. Ever. At least not for me. At least if my hands are wet I can feel that the disc is going to slip. With gloves on you can't feel anything. I used golf gloves, baseball gloves, and tackified football gloves. None worked well, and the ones I liked best wore out too fast to be feasible.
DOC65
Sep 15 2008, 03:17 PM
Use a chamois leather towel. The wetter they get the better they work. It's amazing how much water they will soak up from the disc and your hand leaving them as close to not being wet as anything you'll find.
tokyo
Sep 15 2008, 03:44 PM
Buy a Under Armour football glove that is used by recievers, that thing gives you mad grip on disc, I just dont know if i could play with it or not.
ChrisWoj
Sep 15 2008, 05:40 PM
After playing in a downpour yesterday, and doing okay...
1. Have an umbrella. I used to think I could get by without one, figured everything would get wet anyway. BIG mistake.
2. Have MICROFIBER towels. Not shammys. The shammys don't get the water off the disc as well, and they deposit any dirt or grime on the shammy onto the disc. Microfibers pull off dirt, grime, and water. Especially helpful if your disc ends up in the mood. For my money, shammys are worthless.
3. Have extra towels in a plastic bag. I used 5 (!!) yesterday in one round. Though if you're using a supercrappy-shammy they do seem to last the longest without becoming saturated.
4. Blow on your fingers. Blow lightly on them, nice and even across your grip. Halfway through the round I had a hole where I realized my own hands were saturated with moisture, finally thought to blow on my fingers and it did the trick right away.
5. Trust. As was said already, trust your grip. Whenever I thought about my grip it failed me.
askmifo
Sep 16 2008, 05:18 AM
Thanks for all replies and interesting thoughts!
I have played ball golf for many years, and some of my tournament wins has come when the weather has been absolutely soaking wet. I tried to think positive as you say, knowing that everyone struggles with the weather. Those who accepts a slight loss of grip, discomfort from the rain, more complicated handling of umbrella, towels, scorecards etc, they usually prevail and place high in the results.
Now I need to find a way to adapt to slower smoother release, and mentally accept I will throw shorter, besides the work with keeping things dry.
Oh, one more tip from me, it is so much easier to handle things in a competition if someone is kind enough to caddie for you... :-) It is not that easy to persuade my girlfriend to carry my backpack in pouring rain, but it sure make things easier when I can concentrate on drying discs and writing scores, without clinging the umbrella between my shoulder and chin, kneeling on the ground... :-P
Here in southern Sweden the Winter tours wiith unstable weather will begin in a few weeks, I'll better be prepared then!
Again, thanks guys, good advices and an interesting discussion!
mikeP
Sep 16 2008, 10:13 AM
Once you have your confidence in the rain it will be more fun. I used to hate playing in the rain. This spring at a tournament I had a really bad first round. When the rain clouds showed up on the horizon instead of getting anxious I thought "man, if I keep it together I could gain a lot of strokes as other people will be making mistakes". Sure enough I adhered to my ritual and it brought more focus to my game than I had before it was raining. I birdied 4 holes in a row while everyone else on my card took 3s, 4s, and 5s. The next round it rained again and again I tore it up. I ended up going from last place after the first round to 5th place in the end. Now I look forward to rain even though I still honestly do not enjoy getting wet.
DOC65
Sep 16 2008, 10:54 AM
2. Have MICROFIBER towels. Not shammys. The shammys don't get the water off the disc as well, and they deposit any dirt or grime on the shammy onto the disc. Microfibers pull off dirt, grime, and water. Especially helpful if your disc ends up in the mood. For my money, shammys are worthless.
Can't disagree more, use your towels for cleaning off the mud and grime and the Chamois for drying. I've played in multiple tournaments this year that had rain, lots of rain. And when everyone on my card would start complaining about not being able to get a disc dry with their microfiber towels I'd laugh.
Then I'd wring out all the water in my chamois and grab there disc and give it a quick wipe down and hand it back. They couldn't believe how dry their disc was when I handed it back. Some guys would see what I had and would say why didn't I ever think of that those things suck up water like nothing else!! Just don't buy cheap imitations get the real deal.
Now I will concede that if you carry enough (5 in your case I guess) microfiber towels they might be as effective as a single chamois. :confused:
jmc2442
Sep 16 2008, 11:03 AM
http://www.guidepointsystems.com/mall/automotive/B0000AY69V.01._AA280_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
it says right on the package, "the soft touch thats tough on wetness".. it even comes in a nice plastic carrying tube. These things work wonders on autos, household cleanups, basically anything involving large amounts of water. I have never carried a chamois playing disc golf. After last weekend, I am absolutely putting an Absorber in my bag.
Dirt/muck/grime with towel, wetness with the chamois. thats the way to go.
abee1010
Sep 16 2008, 11:23 AM
Or you could use a cart with plastic boxes to keep your discs dry. 1 cotton towel is all I need, and I always do the final wipe on the inside of my T-shirt. Then if it's rainging really hard I hold the disc (in throwing hand) under my shirt until I actually begin the runup...
JerryChesterson
Sep 16 2008, 02:11 PM
All I have to say is one word .... SHAMWOW!!!!
www.shamwow.com (http://www.shamwow.com)
RhynoBoy
Sep 16 2008, 02:18 PM
^^^Almost posted that last night! SHAMWOW!!!
DOC65
Sep 16 2008, 05:41 PM
I've wondered about those Shamwow's. Are they better than Chamois Leather? Give me some real world testimonials. :D
anita
Sep 16 2008, 10:54 PM
I was told the adage of: Dry disc, dry hand. Wet disc, wet hand. Basically keep the friction coefficient the same. I have actually rubbed my hand in wet grass to get it wet when I have played in the rain.
ChrisWoj
Sep 16 2008, 11:37 PM
Now I will concede that if you carry enough (5 in your case I guess) microfiber towels they might be as effective as a single chamois. :confused:
Except for the fact that a single Innova "SUPER" shammy (however it is spelled) didn't get a single disc dry? I tried using it for a few holes and all it did was deposit dirt and grime on the disc, and leave moisture on the disc. The microfibers wicked away any water, dirt, whatever. Sure, they get saturated quick which is why I needed more than one... but the shammy didn't get anything off the disc in the first place. It sucked.
ChrisWoj
Sep 16 2008, 11:41 PM
All I have to say is one word .... SHAMWOW!!!!
www.shamwow.com (http://www.shamwow.com)
Had one of those in my bag as well this weekend. lol. It used to work, but I mostly used it to stop up my rockstar while I kept it in my bag. :P The only problem I have with a Shamwow is that after a few years they lose their absorption ability somehow. Awesome as hell when you first buy them though!
DOC65
Sep 17 2008, 12:18 AM
Now I will concede that if you carry enough (5 in your case I guess) microfiber towels they might be as effective as a single chamois. :confused:
Except for the fact that a single Innova "SUPER" shammy (however it is spelled) didn't get a single disc dry? I tried using it for a few holes and all it did was deposit dirt and grime on the disc, and leave moisture on the disc. The microfibers wicked away any water, dirt, whatever. Sure, they get saturated quick which is why I needed more than one... but the shammy didn't get anything off the disc in the first place. It sucked.
Maybe that's the problem. I'm talking about Chamois Leather, Big Difference!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamois_leather)
ChrisWoj
Sep 17 2008, 12:24 AM
Now I will concede that if you carry enough (5 in your case I guess) microfiber towels they might be as effective as a single chamois. :confused:
Except for the fact that a single Innova "SUPER" shammy (however it is spelled) didn't get a single disc dry? I tried using it for a few holes and all it did was deposit dirt and grime on the disc, and leave moisture on the disc. The microfibers wicked away any water, dirt, whatever. Sure, they get saturated quick which is why I needed more than one... but the shammy didn't get anything off the disc in the first place. It sucked.
Maybe that's the problem. I'm talking about Chamois Leather, Big Difference!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamois_leather)
Yeah, I meant to specify in my first post that it was the Innova things they just came out with. That's my bad.
drdisc
Sep 17 2008, 12:31 AM
I use a baseball batting glove when it gets cold, They don't last long in the wet. The aforementioned towels are great. You can not beat a Birdie Bag. Helped me win a Worlds in the rain one year.
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