Cracked Plastic Classic

[KDiscin]

CRACKED PLASTIC CLASSIC
A PDGA B-TIER EVENT
HOSTED BY THE KALAMAZOO/BATTLE CREEK BASKET KACES
AT COLD BROOK PARK, KALAMAZOO, MICHIGAN
FEBRUARY 9TH & 10th , 2008
REGISTRATION: 7:15-8:15AM
PLAYER'S MEETING: 8:30AM

FIELD IS LIMITED TO 96 PLAYERS EACH DAY-
WE MEAN IT!!! SO, PREREGISTER AND DO NOT MISS OUT!!!

2 ROUNDS OF 24 HOLES!!

LUNCH WILL BE PROVIDED!!!

CTPS, ACE POOL, 50/50!!!

MORE THAN 100% PAYBACK!!!

FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT LARRY @
269 217-7356 OR KACES6903@AOL.COM

SATURDAY DIVISIONS: (PLEASE CIRCLE):
Masters - $58 Am Masters - $53 Intermediate - $43 Recreational - $43 Juniors - $25

SUNDAY DIVISIONS: (PLEASE CIRCLE):
Open Men - $63 Open women - $48 Advanced - $53 Am Women - $38 Grand Masters - $48
***** extra $10 fee for non-pdga members (except for Juniors) *****

SIDE EVENTS (PLEASE CIRCLE):
ACE POOL - $5 50/50 CTP - $5

MAKE CHECK PAYABLE AND SEND TO:
Larry LaBond 51501 Pleasant Dr. Mattawan, MI 49071

online registration available at: kacesdiscgolf.com (http://www.kacesdiscgolf.com/)

[janttila]

Dowd, why so expensive this year? WOW!

[savard1120]

hopefully its not nearly as cold as it was last year

[z Vaughn z]

Dowd, why so expensive this year? WOW!



Because Larry's tournaments are one of the best!

[Roosta]

wow! int. costs more than advanced......

[Mark_Stephens]

You might want to look at that again.

Int $43
Adv $53

[KDiscin]

I believe Larry may have included a small fee for the Lunch and Barrel of Bell's. Other than that I don't know. It was one of the first things I thought of when I looked at the registration as well.

Did the PDGA increase sanction fees like they did with the non member fee?

[Mark_Stephens]

No increase in fees. :)

[janttila]

Dowd, why so expensive this year? WOW!



Because Larry's tournaments are one of the best!



TRUE DAT!

[savard1120]

wow! int. costs more than advanced......



your comprehension skills amaze all of us

[KDiscin]

You read good too.


From another boart: Am1 payout last year was like 1st $300 2nd $250 or some *censored*. It's expensive but it all comes back. LL rivals Todd White as MI's best TD.

[savard1120]

that boart is full of lies and bad apples

[z Vaughn z]

Maybe he meant Bort.

bort (bôrt)
n.
1. Poorly crystallized diamonds used for industrial cutting and abrasion.
2. A carbonado.

[ChrisWoj]

You might want to look at that again.

Int $43
Adv $53


I'm looking at it...


SATURDAY DIVISIONS: (PLEASE CIRCLE):
Masters - $58 Am Masters - $53 Intermediate - $43 Recreational - $43 Juniors - $25

SUNDAY DIVISIONS: (PLEASE CIRCLE):
Open Men - $63 Open women - $48 Advanced - $53 Am Women - $38 Grand Masters - $48
***** extra $10 fee for non-pdga members (except for Juniors) *****


It looks like Advanced is only 48 and Intermediate is 53...

[Mark_Stephens]

Are you kidding me right????

It is Division DASH Money

Intermediate - $43
Advanced - $53

Unless you are trying to tell me that Masters play for free and There is a mysterious unnamed division that costs $25.

[savard1120]

id like to play the mystery division please

[Roosta]

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[mikeP]

Developmentally disabled is the preferred nomenclature...

[KDiscin]

Players Packages include a Star and FLX disc as well as a mini + lunch and beer

[z Vaughn z]

Even for Pros?

[janttila]

Last year the pros got a players package too.

[savard1120]

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these innapropriate comments will not be tolerated, please ban yourself r-00ster

[KDiscin]

Even for Pros?



The Pros will get the lunch and beer, you'll have to talk to Larry about the discs.

[thetruthxl]

Bring extra cash. All three Discraft SuperColor Worlds discs will be available for $25 per disc.

[KDiscin]

Is anyone coming to Coldbrook? The pre-reg is looking weak.

[tacimala]

I've never compared pre-reg to your game until now KD. Thank you for making that connection!

[peterkunoff]

going to try to.....but can't pre-register yet

[savard1120]

you can pre-reg for me if you want dowd

[KDiscin]

I've never compared pre-reg to your game until now KD. Thank you for making that connection!



I see this as a personal attack...where the hell are the moderators?

[cschwab]

consider the moderators notified.

MY EYES ARE BURNING PLEASE MODERATORS MODERATE SO THAT THE CHILDREN WILL NEVER SEE THIS RUTHLESS ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AND PROFANITY!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH

[padobber]

kdisc why are you dropping the h e double hockey sticks? offensive.

[cschwab]

that is implied profanity paul. consider the mods not'd.

PLEASE STOP SWEARING, I DON"T WANT TO SPEND ETERNITY IN PURGATORY OR WORSE BECAUSE I WITNESSED THESE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE WORDS

[KDiscin]

go away paul, don't you have some OTHER BOART TO TYPE ON??

[janttila]

I find that terribly offensive as well. Just like Rooster's politically incorrect term for the developmentally disabled. The message board should not be used to intimidate or offend. Things feel so outta control on this Cracked Plastic thread, it's scaring me.

[padobber]

go away paul, don't you have some OTHER BOART TO TYPE ON??


YES I DO BUT IT IS BORING ME TODAY.

[janttila]

On another note: I'm thinking about playing both days at this event. Anyone winter camping at Coldbrook? Are the camp sites open?

[padobber]

JOE
WHY DO YOU ALWAYS INSIST ON BRINGING THREADS BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL PURPOSE? REPORTED.

[savard1120]

the all caps is offending me, its implying anger and that will not be tolerated on here

mods please save me

[KDiscin]

Nice to know you want to be destroyed both days, Joe.

Here is some camping info :
Camping:

Cold Brook Park has 51 campsites in two separate areas: 29 Improved and 22 Rustic sites. All sites have a picnic table and a fire pit.

The Improved Area: electric and water accessible at each site with a dump station available. Two sites are handicapped accessible. This area has a modern restroom with flush toilets and shower facilities.

The Rustic Area: vault toilets and hand pumps-no electricity.

The camping season is from early May through late October (depending on the weather conditions). Cold Brook offers campsites on a "first-come, first-served" basis. Reservations for the current year may be made beginning on the first business day in January. You can reserve specific campsites or groups of campsites together. Campsites can be reserved up to the current date. To make reservations less than two weeks of your arrival date, call Cold Brook Park directly at (269) 746-4270. To reserve campsites in advance, add a one-time fee of $5. (Reservation Form)

Camping Rates:

Cold Brook Park $20/night Improved Area
$15/night Rustic Area
*These camping fees include the entrance fee for one vehicle. Additional vehicles must pay the daily vehicle entrance fee or purchase an annual vehicle permit.


A complete list of rules is posted at the park. For any questions on rules or regulations please email the Park Director.

For additional information on reserving a campsite please contact our Camping Coordinator.

[KDiscin]

For those that have a hard time reading good: The camping season is from early May through late October (depending on the weather conditions).

[cschwab]

offensive poster, you could have just said that the campsites are not available until may instead of wasting all of OUR time

http://www.netwalk.com/~truegger/ftrh/pizza7.jpg

[janttila]

Thanks KD! The key would be that the bathrooms are unlocked and the hot water running. I suppose one might have to hike the gear in if the gate were closed.

[janttila]

And Mr. Hand, there can't bee anything wrong with a little feast on OUR time!

[thetruthxl]

Thanks KD! The key would be that the bathrooms are unlocked and the hot water running. I suppose one might have to hike the gear in if the gate were closed.



the most wonderous thing happens in the winter at Coldbrook...no matter how chilly it is outside, the bathrooms by the boat launch are always 80degrees. Entrance fees do go to good use.
BTW, how's that roman bath coming at Hudson Mills. Isn't that what your 2008 fee's fees are going to?

[thetruthxl]

The yeti will leave trax in the woods of coldbrook. Who else is reg'd?

[Dana]

Thinking about it!

[thetruthxl]

Thinking about it!



Thinkin' ain't gonna git'cha a trophy and tons of plastic!

Larry has one of the best payouts in Michigan!
The last 3 years, the CPC has filled up as much as 3 weeks before the event. If i'm not mistaken (and I'll probably be corrected if I am) 96 players per day.
make sure you don't end up like a couple of wisconsin guys last year and not get in trying to pay the day of. Pre reg right away!

[Dana]

Playing ain't gonna get me any plastic either!

[DMoney1420]

Me and Keith Wert will be there and maybe Dan Treece

[thetruthxl]

Me and Keith Wert will be there and maybe Dan Treece



tell treece to cover up that beard...it'll form a giant ice cycle during the day that might go flying off his face when he throws! Dangerous!! :eek:

[DMoney1420]

He is still undecided on playing looking foward to playing coldbrook havent played it since it changed.

[z Vaughn z]

Registration for this event looks low...has it been updated in a while? Lets blow this post up, just 1 week till the first Michigan B-tier of the Year! I'm going to beat the lepricon.

[Dana]

when is the last day you can register?

[KDiscin]

When it fills or Friday

[dischick]

Registration for this event looks low....



maybe people are scared off after last years weather

[bruce_brakel]

Pre-registration doesn't look slow to me. Winter tournaments often pre-register slowly. People want to see what the weather is going to be.

[thetruthxl]

Larry said on sunday after taking about 7 pre-reg's, sunday is well over half full and about 1/3 to capacity for sat. Here's a hint...been studying for metorology school:

Overlook for the weekend:
Sat partly cloudy, chance of snow 30%, hi of 37 low of 24.
Sund, windy, chance of percipitation 40% flurries w/ partial sun, hi 39-low of 27.

Just a guess, but I'd dress to it. ;)

[z Vaughn z]

Its at 58 now, but when I posted earlier, it was at 28.

[thetruthxl]

Reg is looking good, don't be stranded in the heated bathroom at the two minute whistle....sign up today!

Remember the wisconsin people who drove all the way down that didn't get to play b/c the tourney was full? sucks to be them.
Dont be that group. reg today.
:eek:

[KDiscin]

Here's a hint...been studying for metorology school:

Overlook for the weekend:
Sat partly cloudy, chance of snow 30%, hi of 37 low of 24.
Sund, windy, chance of percipitation 40% flurries w/ partial sun, hi 39-low of 27.

Just a guess, but I'd dress to it. ;)



Sunday now has a high of 11.

I hope you aren’t planning on getting a degree from there.

[bruce_brakel]

The accuweather forecast is looking a little less daunting than when they were calling for 3-6 inches of new snow and 40 mph winds. Now its less snow and less wind.

Anybody know how much snow is on the ground in K'zoo right now?

[tacimala]

Actually ZV would probably still be able to get a job in meteorology with those predictions. It really is one of the few jobs in the world that you can be wrong every day and still have a job. I may start doing some meteorology in my spare time to pay some bills.

[KDiscin]

We got 3-5 yesterday so there is about 5-7 on the ground. I will be assessing Coldbrook tomorrow and can post my observations.

[j_d]

High of 10, 20 mph winds ....

who is going to win the "Tom Coughlin" award ?

[z Vaughn z]

Actually ZV would probably still be able to get a job in meteorology with those predictions. It really is one of the few jobs in the world that you can be wrong every day and still have a job. I may start doing some meteorology in my spare time to pay some bills.



Did someone say they wanted my predictions? Tim Wiemer is going to win Advanced. Played doubles opposite him last weekend and watched him shoot a good -8 by himself, no joke.
No Bennett yet?

[janttila]

He's in Texas. KD, what's the word on the snow fall at the course? Tee pads bee clear?

[thetruthxl]

Isn't tim playing in the old man div?

shovelled the pads last night. got about another 1/2" overnight. looking to be snowy on sat....3-5 inches expected. hi 12 low 11...god bless the weatherman!
oh yea...windy...only about 30mph gusts. :eek:

[wander]

Hey, Mark -

Foz, pal of mine from this area, will be out this w/e gathering footage at the CPC.

He was looking for ideas and, among others, I suggested getting some sound-bits from you folks on the Worlds front. If you or Larry or KD, heck even all of you, want to get a word or two in, there might be another promo piece in the works. Some of the activities, color, plans, parties, gear, swag, swill, what ever you have to tell him about, by all means do so, if you get a chance.

Best of luck with the event, I hope the forecast brightens.

Joe

[mikeP]

I really miss the Cracked Plastic Classic! For some reason they never have kegs of Bells down here in FL...Anyway, I'll have to settle on the Barnett Park Championships in Orlando. No Bell's, but the forecast says 76 degrees for the high... :cool:

PS...Good luck Mark! Hopefully you haven't been too busy procuring sponsership to let your game slip...Its time for you to win an Advanced tourney!

[j_d]

And there are 88 disc golfers signed up for this -- draw your own conclusions, disc golfers are hardy; disc golfers are crazy; disc golfers like frostbite ....

Kalamazoo forecast:
Tonight
Windy. Snow showers. Areas of blowing snow overnight. Snow accumulation 2 to 3 inches. Lows zero to 5 above. West winds 15 to 20 mph increasing to 30 to 35 mph overnight. Gusts up to 51 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent. Lowest wind chill readings 8 below to 18 below zero overnight.
chancesnow
Sunday
Windy. Snow showers. Areas of blowing snow. Snow accumulation an inch or less. Near steady temperature 5 to 10 above. West winds 30 to 35 mph becoming northwest 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 46 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent. Wind chill readings 9 below to 19 below zero.

[thetruthxl]

I really miss the Cracked Plastic Classic! For some reason they never have kegs of Bells down here in FL...Anyway, I'll have to settle on the Barnett Park Championships in Orlando. No Bell's, but the forecast says 76 degrees for the high... :cool:

PS...Good luck Mark! Hopefully you haven't been too busy procuring sponsership to let your game slip...Its time for you to win an Advanced tourney! <font color="red"> (in 2008!!) </font>



Thanks Mike...I'll be thinking of you as you wear your low-top boots and not picking sno-dingleberries off Shady's legs!

[tacimala]

Played a round today during the lunch. Schack with the lead at 66 at the half.

[z Vaughn z]

How were the conditions TCim?

[tacimala]

Teepads were awesome, wind was picking up a bit and it was getting a bit colder. From the forecast though it doesn't look like today's conditions will mean anything for tomorrow.

Raley won

[bruce_brakel]

Good tournament. Good chili. Good mac and cheese if you asked for the no-meat option. Great player packs and a good amateur payouts.

I like the changes to the course. It is a better course than it used to be.

Scores and ratings are up, too.

[dischick]

i heard that half the field has DNF'd due to frost bite

[ChrisWoj]

It was cold enough playing one round of doubles today... you guys are sick playing in this weather.

[bruce_brakel]

I played in two Cracked Plastics as cold as today. If you don't know how to dress for that kind of weather it can be brutal.

Sarah DeMar will be fine. She played the Byron Ice Bowl in that kind of weather last year and was toasty warm all day long.

[dischick]

It was cold enough playing one round of doubles today... you guys are sick playing in this weather.



playing in this kind of weather is not the only crazy thing... its driving in it. i hope that every one has a safe drive home- here in Kazoo the roads are horrible. ( i was gonna go out to the course to laugh at all the crazy golfers, but it took over 20 minutes just to do a normal 5 minute drive)
typically, i know how to dress when its cold- but in this, it doesnt seem like there is much you can do- hand warmers dont even work when its this frigid.
however, hope everyone at the CPC had a blast today!

[DMoney1420]

Yeah my car found the ditch and Keith Wert and Dan Treece and I unable to make it in the time window we had so we turned around and came home i am very upset that i had to miss this event and i hope everyone made it there and home safe.

[dischick]

sorry to hear that, at least everyone in your car made it home in one piece.

[Mark_Stephens]

I was driving home from Indianapolis today and from about 50 miles south of the Michigan border to Lansing, I-69 South was a sheet of ice. LOTS and LOTS of cars in ditches...

[z Vaughn z]

Terry T-dogg Miller wins again. Chris Olinger( I believe) was second, Al Shack 3rd, Brent Koontz 4th. Thats what I remember. Last cash was at +20 for Open, and about +24 for Advanced ( a guess). Strange skewed ratings are expected. Hot round on the day was -1.

[DMoney1420]

Yea we are all good just a little upset any word on player packs for people who couldnt make it ???

[Dana]

Just got home. Long drive, terrible conditions in MI (both golf and driving). Good times, thanks to Larry and staff.

[thetruthxl]

Did everyone escape Jack Frost's nip? any frostbite reports? I hope everyone is ok.
Crazy tournament...but what do you expect in a Michigan Feb.

[tacimala]

Dana and I saw a car on its side on our way back to Illinois, but we weren't involved. Definitely a crazy day!

[jHarr]

69s from lansing was bruuutal sunday morning, glare ice and periodic sideways snow- great control game by trveor for gettin us there- of the several cars we saw in the ditch many had just passed us as we crawled along...

the cold of the day wouldn't have been too bad alone but the absolutely relentless wind, especially around the edges of the course, made for a day of golf that must've made everyone's "top5 nastiest" list. 3foot putts took concentration and many still got pushed offline. Hands exposed for one shot hurt...

thanks to Larry and all who helped
highlights of the day in no particular order are the handwarmers, the chili/cheesynoodle lunch (I mixed), the BEER, the plastic sheeting that kept the wind out, and of course the other goofballs out on a day like that one...

it was cold yo

[DSproAVIAR]

YEA HARR!
Nice Stubbbbs and BRad too
JOSE! $280 on 1 throw NICE!

[dsglfgeo]

Did everyone escape Jack Frost's nip? any frostbite reports? I hope everyone is ok.
Crazy tournament...but what do you expect in a Michigan Feb.



I fell in the lake during the first round (notice my wonderful scores) and my toe is still messed up...not frostbite, but it feels like i've got some nerve damage

[dischick]

wow- how in the world did you fall in the lake? talk about the worst day for that.
1st round? and you kept going? u should win the hard core metal if so.

[thetruthxl]

Did everyone escape Jack Frost's nip? any frostbite reports? I hope everyone is ok.
Crazy tournament...but what do you expect in a Michigan Feb.



I fell in the lake during the first round (notice my wonderful scores) and my toe is still messed up...not frostbite, but it feels like i've got some nerve damage



Say it ain't so george. keep us posted on the recovery....reports coming in of flu and flu-related ailments.
vincent is out for a couple of days.

[dsglfgeo]

wow- how in the world did you fall in the lake? talk about the worst day for that.
1st round? and you kept going? u should win the hard core metal if so.


4th hole of the 1st round, I was able to change shoes after the first round but it still was messed up the rest of the day...I sunk into the muck just before the lake, right up to my knees it was funny cuz my boot almost came off in the stuff. my disc is still out there. Star Destroyer-pink-first run.

Steve Vincent was on my card Mark you should ask him about it...now that its over it was pretty funny.

[mikeP]

Good finish Stubbs...way to keep Mark Roberts dreams of coming down to dominate the Adv division at bay... :D

[jHarr]

steve was on our card in the PM and we had a great battle going, fun d00d... slayin birdies down the stretch...

any Kzoo peeps/ Larry, Chas--I left a black Wizard putter somewhere there while I was shopping, name in silver on the inside rim... /dumba$$ beer casualty
daemon had already saved it once from being forgotten at the CTP...

[KACES]

Got it. Will you be at the Lumberjack?

[jHarr]

90% no on the Ljack, but someone from Lansing can grab it for me Im sure... thanks, Udaman, Im an idiot, Ill PM ya when it gets closer and I know whassup but someone can get it for me there for sure.......
thanks again larry

[KDiscin]

Found:

George Sturm - Pink Star Something
Jose - Red Firebird (probably bought a new one with the $280 ace pool)
ZV - Yellow Star FL

You can get these at Lumber Jack or by contacting Jen @ discgolfthreerivers@yahoo.com

[janttila]

From Jen D:

zachary vaughn- yellow star fl
andrew jose- red firebird
george sturm- pretty pink star somethin

Oh, KD you already posted this. Good work!

[tacimala]

Hey did anyone find a Yellow Star FL with ZV's initials on it? Just wondering if anyone would have found it.

[KDiscin]

Not sure about that one. I heard someone found a red firebird tho.

[dsglfgeo]

Found:

George Sturm - Pink Star Something
Jose - Red Firebird (probably bought a new one with the $280 ace pool)
<font color="red">ZV - Yellow Star FL </font>

You can get these at Lumber Jack or by contacting Jen @ discgolfthreerivers@yahoo.com



Prolly not

[thetruthxl]

Not sure about that one. I heard someone found a red firebird tho.



from what I understand, a couple of discs were found from te CCp. I'll look into it.
welcome. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[z Vaughn z]

I lost a yellow Star FL on hole #19. It has my name on it, has anyone in the Kzoo area found it?

[KDiscin]

I know someone found a yellow disc, I'm not sure what hole tho.

[tacimala]

Wait is this the same yellow disc that I was asking about? I sure hope so, because all these posts about discs and colors and finding them sure are confusing!

[KDiscin]

All I know is I didn't lose a yellow disc, but I did lose a blue disc with taylor's name on it.

[z Vaughn z]

All I know is I lost my name with a disc on it.

[janttila]

Taylor, didn't you find your disc that KD took from you. You should sell it back to him. And will someone PLEASE return ZV's name!

[Mark_Stephens]

Finders, Keepers!

If ZV wants his name back, he is going to have to pay me for it. I have it in a dirty, muddy box along with all of the other names that I pull out of random water hazards from around the state.

[Roosta]

i can get georges destroyer at LJ and return it to him as we work together...

[dischick2]

sorry , ZV, i used your yellow FL as a back up disc and it is now in the bottom of the lake. however, if you wish to retrieve it, i know exactly where it went in at.


- jen d

[z Vaughn z]

I don't care about the disc, I want my name back!

[Mark_Stephens]

I don't care about the disc, I want my name back!



It is in Flint. Maybe I will bring it with me to Lumberjack. $5 and you can have it back.

[z Vaughn z]

*Sigh...

[Mark_Stephens]

Fine...

I would hate for you to not have your name for over a week.

*Zachary Vaughn*

Next time you lose it though...