ADGA Elections

[lauranovice]

if only life were that simple . . .

[dannyreeves]

Why is it that everyone has told what they think needs to be done but Toolen will not post? I would love to hear what he has to say. Since he is the one that caused this problem.


He doesn't have internet access. He won't even answer his phone. Apparently he thinks if he ignores us this will go away.



well, that is my big problem with this. Everyone makes mistakes. Time of own up and be a man. He should find a library and post the whole story. Then, after we have all the facts, we can accurate illustrate a plan to solve the problem(s).

[Big E]

I am looking at buying a house that is a couple of blocks from the vet. I hope to be able to be more involved with the ADGA at this time. I would like for this to be put behind the club and hope I can be of some positive help!

[sandalman]

Terry is a friend. many of us have eaten greasy eggs and bacon with him before sunday minis, slammed a beer or two with him after a round, attended his wedding(s) :cool:, stood with him when his son had a horrible accident, kept an eye on his baby in the stroller when he had to set up and make a shot.

most of us, me included, have done far less for the course than Terry has. if my ADGA membership fees have gone to terry, i'm OK with that . and i'd give him another 20 bux if he needed it.

to quell a rumor: according to a conversation this morning with the PDGA office, the current tally with the PDGA is $455 from the '06 VPO. that amount includes one person's pdga membership renewal. its not "thousands" owed to the PDGA. nor has anyone been "suspended"... altho there is a process for suspending the TD'ing priviledges for TDs who are in arrears, and that could come into play at some point.

as i have said before, i am willing to contribute to a "fix it" fund as long as that fund is a loan to Terry that will be repaid. i want to help a friend. we need to support, not shred, our community and the folks who have put their blood into the course. i am willing to put up the money owed to the PDGA, but i am serious, i aint doing it unless we have an repayment agreement in place with whoever is responsible.

if this fund is established, it should only include direct invoices... that is Jay/Des, PDGA, Innova. not a penny of course memberships or any of that stuff. we need to chalk that part of it up to experience. i'm not gonna kick someone when he's down, especially given the contribution Terry has made over the years.

one thing that really bugs me is this: rumors and exaggerations are being spread on this thread. that needs to stop. discussion is one thing, even laying out the details and facts of the problem is ok. but embellishments are out of bounds - especially for new people on the scene who remain non-members. Lee, you've calling Terry out - well, I'm calling you out. you have a lot to say on here, but not a word in person at the park. i'm calling BS on that. face-to-face is best for resolving this stuff. at least be man enough to talk openly in person about it. you have the guts to stand up at an ADGA mini and pimp your efforts to start a new club at another course, but not a peep about this situation. you've actually performed a valuable service by bringing this to light, but its time to slow down the online rhetoric and innuendo and start building a real, lasting solution that helps the ADGA and as much as possible individual members who may need our assistance at the moment.

[my_hero]

Great post pat. I know for a fact that i couldn't have said it as well as you just did. Thanks.

TT is a long time friend of a lot of us. Just remember that.

[lauranovice]

Agreed, most excellent post, Pat. Thanks for typing what I was thinking and phrasing it so well.

Terry is a friend. many of us have eaten greasy eggs and bacon with him before sunday minis, slammed a beer or two with him after a round, attended his wedding(s) :cool:, stood with him when his son had a horrible accident, kept an eye on his baby in the stroller when he had to set up and make a shot. <font color="red"> me too </font>

most of us, me included, have done far less for the course than Terry has. if my ADGA membership fees have gone to terry, i'm OK with that . and i'd give him another 20 bux if he needed it. <font color="red"> or if he had asked for it </font>

to quell a rumor: according to a conversation this morning with the PDGA office, the current tally with the PDGA is $455 from the '06 VPO. that amount includes one person's pdga membership renewal. its not "thousands" owed to the PDGA. <font color="red">Never said it was for the PDGA, but club debt in general </font> nor has anyone been "suspended"... altho there is a process for suspending the TD'ing priviledges for TDs who are in arrears, and that could come into play at some point.

as i have said before, i am willing to contribute to a "fix it" fund as long as that fund is a loan to Terry that will be repaid. <font color="red"> Holding my breath </font> i want to help a friend. we need to support, not shred, our community and the folks who have put their blood into the course. <font color="red">thus , making it acceptable that money has been mis-directed </font> i am willing to put up the money owed to the PDGA, <font color="red">admirable </font> but i am serious, i aint doing it unless we have an repayment agreement in place with whoever is responsible.

if this fund is established, it should only include direct invoices... that is Jay/Des, PDGA, Innova. not a penny of course memberships or any of that stuff. we need to chalk that part of it up to experience. <font color="red">experience is expensive </font> i'm not gonna kick someone when he's down, especially given the contribution Terry has made over the years. <font color="red">Which I applaud, and will continue to do so... </font>

one thing that really bugs me is this: rumors and exaggerations are being spread on this thread. that needs to stop. discussion is one thing, even laying out the details and facts of the problem is ok. but embellishments are out of bounds <font color="red"> embellishment, I think not, sit down and do the math... Course funds, plastic/merch sales, numerous debt's , etc </font> - especially for new people on the scene who remain non-members. Lee, you've calling Terry out - well, I'm calling you out. <font color="red"> Funny , you had nothing to say on sunday when you put me on the card with Terry . I remember , Terry had nothing to say either... Very interesting </font> you have a lot to say on here, but not a word in person at the park. <font color="red"> I was there, and am always willing to talk.. </font> i'm calling BS on that. face-to-face is best for resolving this stuff. <font color="red"> Agreed</font> at least be man enough to talk openly in person about it. <font color="red"> When have I not ? </font> you have the guts to stand up at an ADGA mini and pimp your efforts to start a new club at another course, but not a peep about this situation. <font color="red"> Not my situation... Not my club. </font> you've actually performed a valuable service by bringing this to light, <font color="red"> somebody had to, the rest of the ADGA was too busy sweeping this one under the rug </font> but its time to slow down the online rhetoric and innuendo <font color="red">some might call those FACTS </font> and start building a real, lasting solution that helps the ADGA and as much as possible individual members who may need our assistance at the moment. <font color="red"> Agreed </font>



Now that Pat has had an opportunity to pour his heart out , let me speak my peace......

Ironically it is a non-member that seems to have more detailed info about what is going on in A-town, than the members..... Why is that ? My services were requested by ADGA members to assist in the resolution of these issues , in my opinion , the beginning of these issues began when certain individuals chose to sweep this issue under the rug. It is a genuine dis-service to all club members.
I was asked to assist in making this a non-issue, and the first step is addressing this issue is identifying the issue . That is hard to do when we are all too busy sweeping this under the rug... I have reviewed your club charter, and I do believe that the 20 dollar members have the right to know and vote on whatever actions that are being taken. So, b4 you guys start shooting the messenger, possibly you should take this up with you dues paying members and see what they have to say about it ...
I consider Terry a friend, and have always had nothing but respect for the man. But wrong is wrong....... Remember, decisions regarding this topic not only affect the club, the director, but all it's members as well. Let the ADGA not lose sight of that ....

Furthermore, I would like to withdraw my acceptance of My Hero's nomination for Director of Promotion's .......

I enjoy everything and everybody out @ Veterans. I respect the history and people from past/present ....

I choose to do this in the interest of truth . As much as I would love to be a part of the solution, I am not convinced that the " solution " is as you describe it .....

Pat , you are a stand up guy... You represent yourself , the ADGA and the PDGA very well. I admire that you are once again willing to bail out the ADGA out of your own pocket.

I hope all is well, and I hope all get's better .

And for the love of god, may the truth set the ADGA free.

[discgolfdog]

"Ironically it is a non-member that seems to have more detailed info about what is going on in A-town, than the members."
Not true, you just think you do.

OOhh, can we start another pissing contest????

You do not walk around with this brain is your skull , so there is no arguement ..... I know what I know, I will share what I know, and I will not share what I have been asked not to share.... Simple....

[cgflesner]

Terry is a friend. many of us have eaten greasy eggs and bacon with him before sunday minis, slammed a beer or two with him after a round, attended his wedding(s) :cool:, stood with him when his son had a horrible accident, kept an eye on his baby in the stroller when he had to set up and make a shot.

most of us, me included, have done far less for the course than Terry has. if my ADGA membership fees have gone to terry, i'm OK with that . and i'd give him another 20 bux if he needed it.

to quell a rumor: according to a conversation this morning with the PDGA office, the current tally with the PDGA is $455 from the '06 VPO. that amount includes one person's pdga membership renewal. its not "thousands" owed to the PDGA. nor has anyone been "suspended"... altho there is a process for suspending the TD'ing priviledges for TDs who are in arrears, and that could come into play at some point.

as i have said before, i am willing to contribute to a "fix it" fund as long as that fund is a loan to Terry that will be repaid. i want to help a friend. we need to support, not shred, our community and the folks who have put their blood into the course. i am willing to put up the money owed to the PDGA, but i am serious, i aint doing it unless we have an repayment agreement in place with whoever is responsible.

if this fund is established, it should only include direct invoices... that is Jay/Des, PDGA, Innova. not a penny of course memberships or any of that stuff. we need to chalk that part of it up to experience. i'm not gonna kick someone when he's down, especially given the contribution Terry has made over the years.

one thing that really bugs me is this: rumors and exaggerations are being spread on this thread. that needs to stop. discussion is one thing, even laying out the details and facts of the problem is ok. but embellishments are out of bounds - especially for new people on the scene who remain non-members. Lee, you've calling Terry out - well, I'm calling you out. you have a lot to say on here, but not a word in person at the park. i'm calling BS on that. face-to-face is best for resolving this stuff. at least be man enough to talk openly in person about it. you have the guts to stand up at an ADGA mini and pimp your efforts to start a new club at another course, but not a peep about this situation. you've actually performed a valuable service by bringing this to light, but its time to slow down the online rhetoric and innuendo and start building a real, lasting solution that helps the ADGA and as much as possible individual members who may need our assistance at the moment.



This is why you need to seperate friends and business. Has Terry done a lot for the ADGA, yes. Does that make the krap he has pulled the last couple of years ok, HELL NO!!!

[quote. Does that make the krap he has pulled the last couple of years ok, HELL NO!!!

[/QUOTE]

Second.

Does it not bother you VPO players checks have bounced for years now..... Do you have that little respect for the club and it's members ?How are you supposed to get 3 time USDGC champion Barry Schultz back to your event , when you are bounching his check? Or e-mac, or Jay and Des or whomever....

[my_hero]

Hey....why didn't you add my name to that list of Awesome players!!! LOL. It is my understanding that everyone has been taken care of except the Readings, who are now the ADGA's top priority.

As for the "bouncing checks for YEARS" comment...There was a flub-up w/ Barry's check in 2005. That was taken care of as soon as possible. .....and we all now about this year's checks. So i guess if you're a literal person, one check one year, and xxx amount of checks this year CAN constitute the plural form of the word "year." :D

Incidentally, i nominated you thinking you were an ADGA member. I was :eek: to find out that you weren't. I still have a little love for you though. :p

Hey....why didn't you add my name to that list of Awesome players!!! <font color="red"> Was not sure if you wanted to be involved , my bad </font> LOL. It is my understanding that everyone has been taken care of except the Readings, who are now the ADGA's top priority. <font color="red">As they should be </font>

As for the "bouncing checks for YEARS" comment...There was a flub-up w/ Barry's check in 2005. That was taken care of as soon as possible. .....and we all now about this year's checks. So i guess if you're a literal person, one check one year, and xxx amount of checks this year CAN constitute the plural form of the word "year." <font color="red"> spend much time reading my mind ? </font> :D

Incidentally, i nominated you thinking you were an ADGA member. I was :eek: to find out that you weren't. I still have a little love for you though. <font color="red"> KEEP YOUR LITTLE LOVE IN YOUR PANTS </font> :p

Long live the ADGA...

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The American Dairy Goat Association

lighten up guys

[lauranovice]

I want a dairy goat

Me too.
Goats milk cheese with some diced red peppers stuffed in a chicken breast is my favorite.......

[lauranovice]

skip the peppers and chicken
and add wine = my favorite meal

[my_hero]

Me too.
Goats milk cheese with some diced red peppers stuffed in a chicken breast is my favorite.......



Do you realize that you said, breast milk is my favorite with some peppers stuffed in me? :eek:

[sandalman]

heck... skip the goat, milk, cheese, peppers and chicken... breast is my favorite. (well, second favorite)

Me too.
Goats milk cheese with some diced red peppers stuffed in a chicken breast is my favorite.......



Do you realize that you said, breast milk is my favorite with some peppers stuffed in me? :eek:



Quit picking on Laura...........

So Goats Milk Cheese and Wine ....... Sounds like a meal to me......

[discgolfdog]

I used to date a girl in Tn. that didn't have a disposal. She did have a goat in the backyard. All the trash went outside to Billy. :eek:

[arlskipshot1]

Terry is a friend. many of us have eaten greasy eggs and bacon with him before sunday minis, slammed a beer or two with him after a round, attended his wedding(s) :cool:, stood with him when his son had a horrible accident, kept an eye on his baby in the stroller when he had to set up and make a shot.

most of us, me included, have done far less for the course than Terry has. if my ADGA membership fees have gone to terry, i'm OK with that . and i'd give him another 20 bux if he needed it.

to quell a rumor: according to a conversation this morning with the PDGA office, the current tally with the PDGA is $455 from the '06 VPO. that amount includes one person's pdga membership renewal. its not "thousands" owed to the PDGA. nor has anyone been "suspended"... altho there is a process for suspending the TD'ing priviledges for TDs who are in arrears, and that could come into play at some point.

as i have said before, i am willing to contribute to a "fix it" fund as long as that fund is a loan to Terry that will be repaid. i want to help a friend. we need to support, not shred, our community and the folks who have put their blood into the course. i am willing to put up the money owed to the PDGA, but i am serious, i aint doing it unless we have an repayment agreement in place with whoever is responsible.

if this fund is established, it should only include direct invoices... that is Jay/Des, PDGA, Innova. not a penny of course memberships or any of that stuff. we need to chalk that part of it up to experience. i'm not gonna kick someone when he's down, especially given the contribution Terry has made over the years.

one thing that really bugs me is this: rumors and exaggerations are being spread on this thread. that needs to stop. discussion is one thing, even laying out the details and facts of the problem is ok. but embellishments are out of bounds - especially for new people on the scene who remain non-members. Lee, you've calling Terry out - well, I'm calling you out. you have a lot to say on here, but not a word in person at the park. i'm calling BS on that. face-to-face is best for resolving this stuff. at least be man enough to talk openly in person about it. you have the guts to stand up at an ADGA mini and pimp your efforts to start a new club at another course, but not a peep about this situation. you've actually performed a valuable service by bringing this to light, but its time to slow down the online rhetoric and innuendo and start building a real, lasting solution that helps the ADGA and as much as possible individual members who may need our assistance at the moment.


My post on p.25 is a more condensed version of this one with one exception. I'm not kidding myself about Terry being able to one day pay it back. Being privy to certain things I would never reveal, I know this won't happen.
As far as who's responsible? We put him in the position and have allowed him to stay. Jason C was speaking with some people about the seriousness of the problem, but I wasn't one of them. When the truth was finally learned we started acting to do whatever neccessary.
I gave up my GM winners check of $200 and I'm willing to put up another $2-300 to help square up with the Readings now. The other two debts to Innova and the PDGA should come more from an effort by members with donated plastic and a couple of benefit events maybe. If Terry is able to make some sort of contribution then great, but it's the club, over a long period of time that should garauntee any monies donated by members to help right the ship.

[gregbrowning]

I agree about club donations, Skip.

I am by no means a seasoned disc golf veteran, but at this point, I have pretty much all the plastic I need, save for a lost disc now and then. I show up for minis on Sundays because I like to play the course and I like the people that come. I will gladly walk away from any merchandise vouchers to do a little bit week by week to get things on the up-and-up.

I love the idea of having benefit tournaments. I am totally on board with this and I would gladly TD or help to TD such an event with some help from people that have TD'd in the past.

[juliwithnoe]

Well I have sat back and read this thread for a few days, my main concern is the Readings, Thanks Skip for the 200.00.That leaves 500.00. I 'm in for 25.00, we need 19 people to join me to get these wonderful people paid, Any Takers??? Thats 2 peices of plastic. I feel this is the most important part of the debt.Let's get it paid. Who's in charge of collecting money for these debts? Let me know , I will get you my 25
Terry ,it's amazing how many people have stood up to help you , it's time for u to stand up and get things moving in a positive direction.

[arlskipshot1]

Well said Juli. One note though, I just gave my winners check back to Terry about two months ago so that $200 is not available to help with the Readings. We're starting from scratch which is why I'm prepared to put up another $2-300. Jason C. said he would go a little cash, and if we could get some others to contribute we could possibly square up with Jay and Des and the PDGA leaving Innova as the only thing to concentrate on.

[Stevinnova]

I'm an outsider, a true one. I don't have any affiliations with any of you other than Doc B. I am a member so I'll put in my two cents. I have tried to stay out of it for as long as I can until I thought I knew what was actually happening. I can't verify anything that has been written in this thread except a few things...

There are some very important things that need to get done in order to save the club. There is substantive dialogue being shared between members about the problems of the past and how to solve them in the future. There is a tremendous amount of tumult going on right now and there is one thing that sticks out to me as an outsider.....

The man in charge is no where to be found. I understand the man in charge has lots of stuff going on, has no internet, and is probably going through some personal issues that should really be kept private. As an outsider, this to me is the #1 reason we need a change in the organization. I guaran-dam-tee if I was president of the ADGA and I started to have no time to deal with the fires that are being spread about my leadership, DocB would tell me the same thing "Move out of the way and let someone who has the time to deal with these problems."

What defines an organization is how it handles problems and the integrity it keeps to make the right decision. I suggest the next time you guys vote for officers you vote for people who, despite personal friendships, can make the right choice. If you can't make a tough choice and can't separate business from friendship, there is no need to have that kind of power. If your "friend" can't properly run a business or pay it's debt, as a member of the organization you have a right to have someone else in there to do the job. If you truly value your friend and wish him well, you'd allow him a nice exit so that you can save his integrity in the future. Stuff happens, things change, and sometimes people need a break even when they have too much pride to admit it.

I used the words "man in charge" because from a business perspective it does not matter who it is that is running the show.

Also, I will donate any money that I can to help pay off the Readings Debt, although I will not be writing a check to the ADGA for it. I will write it directly to the Readings. Someone contact me if this is acceptable or not.

[Stevinnova]

The next step is to get everyone in the room. I agree with Pat that there needs to be more discussion on this subject, face to face.

I am am member of the ADGA and I have never received a confirmation or information about this. I never knew there was so much going on, now I REALLY wanna stay in the loop.

Also, feel free to call me or talk to me at the mini if you have any questions or would like to know my motives for posting my thoughts on the matter. Stevan 214-499-0559

[arlskipshot1]

Stevin, it's really good to have some new blood like you and Greg who care enough to participate in handling responsibilities, but that is more the exception than the rule.
In the past it has always been a headache to find people that were willing to sacrifice their time and energy to do the neccessary WORK involved. Let's face it we're all a bunch of disc dogs that enjoy playing more. Never the less someone needs to do it and the two of you are more than welcome to step in and help.
Come see me at the next mini and I'll try to be more helpful.

[Stevinnova]

Thanks for the offer Skip, unfortunately I have no clue what is involved with any of the dealings of the ADGA. There really isn't a place I can go to look to see what kinds of things the ADGA does, what relationships they have with who, and where people can find up to date information. It's a double-edged sword because I know people want to help, but they have no clue how to do so. Besides the mini's are there any times when the club meets to just discuss business and whatnot?

[juliwithnoe]

Well Skip I trust you or Pat to be in charge of collecting this money. We need to start collecting these funds very soon. Are we having a mini in the morning? I can bring my cash then.
I can also help by getting in touch with some golf friends that may want to contribute They will want to know where or how to get the money to and Who? Let me know what the plans are? by the way I'm not a current member, but will be glad to rejoin if someone steps up and takes charge:)

[arlskipshot1]

It's 1:30 Sunday afternoon and Clay Brummit and I have just talked to Terry. He is in complete agreeance to step down and turn all the funds over that he has plus to disclose all records. For the time being Claydog will be managing all the clubs finances until we can organize the elections to post a more permanent council.
At this point I am going to choose to move on to try to rebuild something that has been very much an important and loved part of my life. All the griping and wishing in the world isn't going to change reality. Knowing more about his personal life for the past year than most of you, I genuinly feel sorry for the guy and know that he will do everything he can to fix what he can.
We've turned the corner on a knew path. I hope we can all walk it together to find Eden. ( or maybe a suburb just outside of it :p)

[discgolfdog]

Just to clarify, Jason Chamberlain will be handling the funds and I will be the temporary director with the help of Skip. I believe now more than ever it is important to keep those positions separate. This is just until we are out of debt and then the younger crowd needs to take over running the club. I would still like to fill the positions of the charter Ginetta drew up. We are going to need some help with this. Claydog

[gregbrowning]

I will step in and do anything I can. All you have to do is tell me what you need.

[arlskipshot1]

I will step in and do anything I can. All you have to do is tell me what you need.


That's great Greg. We would definately want you to be a part of this.

[crusher]

It's ggod to see you guys are are the right path! Good Luck

Best of luck guys.....
I hope all is well in A-Town

[gotcha]

I would like to renew my membership with the ADGA. Where do I send my check and to whom do I make it payable?

[discgolfdog]

Thanks Jerry. Let us get back to you.

[lauranovice]

Thank you, Clay, Jason, and Skip, for taking on what I am sure to be a difficult but worthwhile task.

[my_hero]

Thank you, Clay, Jason, and Skip, for taking on what I am sure to be a difficult but worthwhile task.



Let's not forget to thank TOOLEN for years of dedication and hard work. Thank you sir!

[lauranovice]

Absolutely, you are correct. Being the club officer, as DBA or not is a difficult job, especially when everytime he makes a move it seemed to be the wrong. I know once that spiral starts it is difficult to bring yourself back up to a standing position.
However, I was referring to the task they took on Sunday of confronting their friend with difficult decision that needed to be made and working to bring the phoenix from the ashes. She was all but dead, if not for these three. Hopefully, in not too many months she will soar again.

[Stevinnova]

Thank you, Clay, Jason, and Skip, for taking on what I am sure to be a difficult but worthwhile task.



Let's not forget to thank TOOLEN for years of dedication and hard work. Thank you sir!



We DEFINITELY need to thank Terry Toolen for his years of dedication. It seems that he, as well as a handful of others, gave what they had to make sure people had tournaments and a place to play on Sunday morning for a long time now.

Thanks Terry!

[DGBAMA92]

As for the monies owed, I will tap in with a " C NOTE ". Just let me know who to give money to. I also think that Terry has given alot to keep things running but I know he has taken his fare share of abuse. I am willing to take part in the up keep of this park in any capacity except monies( LOL ). So let me know WHAT WHERE WHEN & HOW. I will do what I can. ;)

[juliwithnoe]

Thanks David, we all appreciate people like you helping out
A page back states Jason C will be collecting money for now.
Thanks Skip & Claydog !!
Thank you Terry, you have giving many hours to this club, I know you had good intentions.

[my_hero]

This is great to read. Thanks to all involved in the rebuild. I was able to go through the tip of the plastic iceburg located in my soon to be daughter's room. :eek: Looks like i'll be donating $500-$750 worth of fine, grade A plastic.

[discgolfdog]

Thank you David. If you are playing Z-Baoz I will be there Sunday afternoon. Anybody that has any donations of cash or discs can see me and I will get the money to Jason. (Really, I promise).

[gotcha]

I was able to go through the tip of the plastic iceburg located in my soon to be daughter's room. :eek: Looks like i'll be donating $500-$750 worth of fine, grade A plastic.



Got any old-mold Whippets in that stack-o-goodies? :D

[DGBAMA92]

OK. NOW. Who do i give work day Golf Disc's to? Only have 10 or 15 - some good some ehhhh. but none the less I have them. I know, not much of a concern now. But had to ask. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[gregbrowning]

All of this plastic donation is awesome, but we still need to find someone to buy it. Should we all take shifts in the parking lot on the weekends and hit up the casual players?

I don't know how much we could raise out of doing this, but I thought that I (or we) could put on a GDS Tour event. I remember playing one at the Vet several years ago. That was the first tournament I ever played in, sanctioned or otherwise. I liked the way things were run, and from the Gateway web site, it sounds like they will donate a fair portion of the players pack and payout. Anyone else on board with this?

I also thought we could get some discs run to sell with a custom hot stamp that says "I helped bail out the ADGA" or something along those lines. :D

[discgolfdog]

I don't know about work discs right now. We will be scheduling a meeting soon to discuss work days and other things. I've got some used plastic that I'm going to try and sell at the park to casuals on Sundays at a discount to benefit the club. (If any of your stuff is Crimson Red with a Bama hot stamp you can keep it). :eek:

[DGBAMA92]

:D:D:D:D:DI KNOW YOU BLEED ORANGE. ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[my_hero]

I also thought we could get some discs run to sell with a custom hot stamp that says "I helped bail out the ADGA" or something along those lines.



Hopefully a Supercolor or Inncolor disc with the original Veteran's stamp from the early 90's.....the group of guys raising the basket and flag. It would look awesome on a full color disc.


but I thought that I (or we) could put on a GDS Tour event.



Doesn't even need to be sponsored.....a smaller, more local, trophy only event would even work, and would cost virtually nothing. Again, we could donote CTP stuff out of our closets.

[Big E]

I have a ton of used dx plastic would that be of any use.

[my_hero]

Hopefully a Supercolor or Inncolor disc with the original Veteran's stamp from the early 90's.....the group of guys raising the basket and flag. It would look awesome on a full color disc.



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Here's a 185g Scorpion from 1991 w/ the stamp. :D
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1954/dscn4860yz3.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4860yz3.jpg)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1012/dscn4861yc9.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4861yc9.jpg)

[arlskipshot1]

I have one of those, John, and one from '92 and one from '93 all three pristene virgins 181g. For a while they were the disc to have for distance. Ziggy King still carries one that he rolls. It would take a truckload of cash to make me part with them, though. They mean alot to me. I do have some old collectibles that I could part with. An original Arrow by Champion before they merged with Innova. A Discraft Phantom I bought back in '85. Some of the old Kittyhawks out of the hard plastic ( the gummy is more valuable), and a very old 86 mold which was Whamo's first golf disc.
About the trophy only event I just want to point out that I held the first club championship, stealing the idea from private ball golf country clubs, to help me recover from the '92 VPO. At the time it was unheard of to hold a paid entry tourny and not have a pay back. Half the membership was okay with the idea but the other half gave me hel l and I was surprised when half of those showed up anyway. Some did protest and stayed away. Since then, though, it has become one of our best times we hold each year with lots of participation.
If we do hold another one we need to get a hook. Something to make it unique. Maybe a free banquet provided our ladies ( this isn't meant to exclude you Don Q. even though we all know you're no lady :cool:) between rounds would be attractive. More on this later.

[arlskipshot1]

Speaking of ball golf I want to brag about my afternoon today. Out of luck and coincidence I wound up playing a round today with one of the finest human beings on the planet, Barry Shultz. We played Tierra Verde in Arlington, a beautiful championship caliber course and had a blast. Thank you, Barry. I'll never forget it.

[Chiefhawk14]

Does this thing work test test.

[arlskipshot1]

Just noticed that you posted 185g as the weight on that Scorpion so I checked mine and you're right they were all 185 or 186 and so are mine.

[jasonc]

It works, welcome to the MB KC.

[arlskipshot1]

There's no personal info on who this post is from. Does anyoone have a clue????? NOT

[arlskipshot1]

Jason you have a pm

[jasonc]

So do you ;).

Over the next few days as we get a good idea of what exactly we are dealing with I will post what kind of hole we have to dig out of. I have a pretty good handle on what debts are out there and have been able to work a few things out as far as that goes. What we still do not know is what the club has as far as $$$$ flow, it could be better or worse than expected and we all need to prepare for that.

Evidently Clay, Skipper, and myself are in this to turn things around. In the past few weeks we've seen a lot of support from new members like Kinter, Doc, Steve and David T; let's not let those resources (not just wehat they can do to help bring in cash, but their ideas and enthusiasm) go to waste. We're also seeing some of the old members that we haven't heard from in a while come back into the picture (HI JULI) and I want to let them know they have definately been missed and we look forward to their input and seeing their smiling faces again.


Somehow we even got KC Dave to finally learn how to type :confused: :p.

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If you haven't made the connection yet.........Yes I'm back and I'll do my best to help turn this around. I care a lot about this club and wouldn't know most of you if it weren't for the ADGA and I think most of you can say the same thing. I have grown to respect a lot of people due to this, became great friends with others, gained an extendend family and had something to keep my beer belly from getting to big thanks to the ADGA.

[gnduke]

I knew you couldn't stay away for long. :cool:

[seewhere]

good luck to the adga you guys have some good folks and this will turn around for the best. now where is peppertee :p

[my_hero]

now where is peppertee



He is eeating some cabbage on the sea floor somewhere in the Gulf.

Actually, SeaHorse has come up with a few great ideas for fund raisers. First it was the Annual Cedar Hill Hamster/Gerbil Relay race around Lorch Park. Now it's a display case at the entrance of the VET for the PepperTee. People would come from miles away..... :D

[ First it was the Annual Cedar Hill Hamster/Gerbil Relay race around Lorch Park. :



What no Guinea Pig's ?????? Hater!

[Stevinnova]

It might be best to designate someone to sell all the discs on ebay. That way some of the rare stuff will have a higher chance of selling at retail.

[discgolfdog]

Most of the older discs I have that are unthrown probably wouldn't do all that well on ebay. I'm looking to unload them after minis to newbie rec. players just starting out. I have a couple old ones that should do well online. How about a REALLY stiff unthrown Big Bead Aviar with a Virginia hotstamp.
I'll have some Champ. Orcs, Sidewinders, a couple Valks, Roadrunners and a couple sweet Wraiths at the park Sunday. I'd like for everybody with a voucher to go through it first so the club can be done with those debts. Then after the mini the ams can get their payouts from my stash. I also have some really nice used discs that generally were only thrown a couple times including a CE Valk. Clay

Clay, all do respect, but do you expect a big turnout this weekend ????? A little event called the Z-Boaz open is this weekend...... There is a couple of decent golfers that will be @ this one :cool:

[discgolfdog]

Ok, For those of you that have to have everything SPELLED OUT, those that I gave vouchers to last week, that show up this week can redeem their vouchers before the mini.
I expect the same number of people this week as last. There was a little thing going on at Cedar Hill, remember? I can't get in a pissing contest with you, I have a narrow urethra. :o

Dont get me wrong claydog, I would like to see hundreds working for the cause....
my .02
Everytime there is an event going on @ Veterans, club championship, VPO, Farenheit Fling, we cancel out mini's to promote attendance @ Veterans events. Yet we do not recieve the same in return ... Cedar Hill canceled their mini this coming Saturday........ Z-Boaz cancelled our mini last sunday......Does Veterans choose not to support one of the biggest events of the year in the Metroplex????
One thing I am pushing for with the Funkytown Flyers Club is UNITY amongst courses in the metro area. To promote attendance @ any event in the area will only do good for the clubs image... As of right now , that might not be a bad idea.... Perhaps you could raffle off some valuable merch @ the open to Save the ADGA, just a thought ...
No pissing contest requests here , just constructive critisism...

I have a narrow urethra. :o



Damnit bobby!

[discgolfdog]

I have a narrow urethra. :o



Damnit bobby!



:D
One other thing about this Sunday. Just like last week we will not shoot at the $500 ace pot out of respect for The Big Show at Z-Boaz. The $2 for ace will be optional as always, but this week you don't have to be a member to shoot at it. If nobody hits the ace we will do a CTP again. DennieDaddyD Ortega walked with $52 last week.

[discgolfdog]

I posted after I saw your last post. There are people that just CAN'T play a two day four round tournament. We will have a mini for those people. We have never shot at the ace pot during one of Brian's sanctioned tournaments that I can remember. IF we did, it won't happen while I'm running things. We didn't shoot at the $500 ace pot last Sunday and won't this Sunday either. Seems to me you are spreading misinformation, again. Get your facts straight. I've never wanted to do anything to hurt Brian's attendance.

[gregbrowning]

I posted after I saw your last post. There are people that just CAN'T play a two day four round tournament. We will have a mini for those people. We have never shot at the ace pot during one of Brian's sanctioned tournaments that I can remember. IF we did, it won't happen while I'm running things. We didn't shoot at the $500 ace pot last Sunday and won't this Sunday either. Seems to me you are spreading misinformation, again. Get your facts straight. I've never wanted to do anything to hurt Brian's attendance.



There are also people who can't play four-round two-day tournaments on back-to-back weekends. That's why I will be at the mini this weekend.

[discgolfdog]

Good, I'd like to talk to you and get you caught up. I talked to Flesh on Sunday.

This is where there will be confilct with the changing of the guard in the ADGA.

Not running @ the ace was admirable . Sucks to be Daddy D.

You and I are never going to be able to communicate in an effective manor. Please understand that what I have to say is not to bring you or the ADGA down. My only purpose in life, as of now, is promotion of disc golf , and all the good that comes along with it . When I sit here and make observations , to which you may or may not take offense, I am giving you a glimpse of what your " Fresh Blood " will be trying to bring to the table . I am not in this to bring you or your members down, I am here to help. The sooner you realise that, the easier the transition for the ADGA will be .

History has shown that a sectarian society will only lead to trouble . In essence , that mentality has always existed between your side of town and mine. F' that !!!!!!
I wish nothing but good for the ADGA and all of it's member's ( of which I will soon be one , member that is ) , for me to do otherwise is counter-productive and an oxymoron all the same. I am here to promote disc golf, not Ft Worth disc golf , not Arlington disc golf , but disc golf ...

I choose not to speak to you as a friend , but as a fellow disc golfer. This fellow disc golfer also happens to be the Director and Founder of the Funkytown Flyers Club.. I know that may mean very little to you now, but in time , that will change. When the time comes, I hope that the ADGA will be receptive to assistance from the FFC. Remember , we share a good sum of members between the two clubs..... Shall we present them with conflict, or cooperation?

I like you Clay, it take's a set of cajones to step up and do what you are doing .... It also takes a set of cajones to ask/recieve help when you are in a bind..... I myself am here to help, as for the Flyers Club members, you may be suprised what we have to offer .....

[discgolfdog]

That is pure psychobabble. Would you like to step up and run the ADGA since you know SO much about the disc golf scene in your vast 1 year? I stepped into this position to try and help my club, which ,again, YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER! Please don't tell me how I should do things. If somebody wants to do things different, I will GLADLY step down and let them take over. You are not helping the situation, only stirring the pot.

[discgolfdog]

And Daddy D. got the CTP. Guess it doesn't suck so much huh?

[arlskipshot1]

We have always made it available for people not in the tourny to have something to do on Sun. morning. We just don't shoot at the ace pot. That's always been the gig.
Clay my buddy, I think you let the earlier posts get to you more than they should have. I was offended at some of his posts too, but I believe he sincerely wished us the best and will even make himself available to help us when he can.

[discgolfdog]

Just waiting for the Xanax to kick in. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Apparently I have been stepping on toes.
My apolagies.
Long live the ADGA, and all of it's dedicated members.
Good day to you all..

[gotcha]

About the trophy only event I just want to point out that I held the first club championship, stealing the idea from private ball golf country clubs, to help me recover from the '92 VPO. At the time it was unheard of to hold a paid entry tourny and not have a pay back. Half the membership was okay with the idea but the other half gave me hel l and I was surprised when half of those showed up anyway. Some did protest and stayed away. Since then, though, it has become one of our best times we hold each year with lots of participation.
If we do hold another one we need to get a hook. Something to make it unique.



Skip,

I think the ADGA Club Championship was (and is) one of the best fundraising events I've ever experienced in disc golf. Honestly, living 1200 miles away from DFW, I miss the CC more than any other local event...sanctioned or not. There was a definite comraderie feel to the event and everybody wanted one of those trophies...not to mention the bragging rights that went along with it! I cherish my two ADGA Club Championship trophies!

The Championship was a brilliant idea back in '92 that still holds water to this day. I took the idea and ran with it here in Pittsburgh. Our club, the Pittsburgh Flying Disc Society, is lucky enough to have numerous courses around the city. We have only one club, however. Rather than contest an event similar the the ADGA CC, I decided to create a individual "course championship". With numerous courses, we have the opportunity to run a fundraising event at each respective course.

Thanks for the idea and inspiration, Skip. Your 1992 brainchild has positively affected a group of disc golfers located 1,200 miles away in Pennsylvania. :)

With that being said, I would like to propose some ideas for the ADGA to possibly consider as fundraising events:

1) Temporary Course Tournament Set up a temp course and make it a fundraiser event. Golfers love to play new courses, especially temporary courses. Kelly Park might be a good choice....if I'm not mistaken, the last time that course was set up was for the '96 VPO. I always liked that Doug Williams design!

2) ADGA Doubles Championship This should be self-explanatory....idea similar to the annual Club Championship.

3) Glow Golf Minis We've started doing this in Pittsburgh to raise money for concrete tee pads at Moraine State Park. We picked up a bunch of glow bracelets at the local dollar store (a 5-pack for $1) and illuminate the baskets. We charge a $5 entry and the winner of the division wins his/her $5 entry back....the rest of the money goes to the club. We've had a great response to this event in Pittsburgh and once it warms up, we'll be doing it again throughout the year.

4) Match Play Team Challenge I thought about this one last night while lying in bed! Create a team and challenge another club to a Match Play Team event (i.e. ADGA vs FFC). You could make it "winner take all", but I think the format might be more effective with a split....say the winners take home 75-80% and the losing team receives a consolation of 20-25%. This way, each team earns revenue for their respective club. Obviously, you could make this format as big as you like....a one on one challege with another club or a multi-club challenge with other Metroplex area organizations. Lots of possibilites, however, I doubt there is a club in the area who couldn't use some extra cash for their bottom line.

It's good to see you folks are looking for a fix and it sounds like there are a lot of new members wanting to become actively involved. I, too, have lots of fond memories of the ADGA and Veterans Park. I hope to make many more....

Keep it rolling....

[lauranovice]

I have a feeling there is too much else going on at this time to allow for enough time and energy to plan a fundraising event. However, I would like to see a disc sale with the original flag-raising stamp eventually. I would also like to see Wolf revived. The wolf-pack was also an ADGA original.

[discgolfdog]

All great suggestions. I remember the Kelly Park set up. That was great, but the best temp. set up tournament was when you set up the course in Euless on the land that was about to be developed. Loved that course.

[my_hero]

but the best temp. set up tournament was when you set up the course in Euless on the land that was about to be developed. Loved that course.



Oh....that area is all apartments now. Just a few small clumps of woods remain. I still have a virgin ontario Roc witht the Euless gecko stamp. :D

[crusher]

That was a fun coourse. I still remeber Tim getting the ace for the win because I said "I'll accept nothing less"

[gotcha]

I have a feeling there is too much else going on at this time to allow for enough time and energy to plan a fundraising event.



I respectfully disagree. All you need is an individual or group of individuals to step up to the plate.

I respectfully disagree. All you need is an individual or group of individuals to step up to the plate.



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[lauranovice]

I apologize, Jerry. You are correct. It can be done. It is being proven by Skip, Clay, and Jason that ADGA members can do whatever is needed.

[gregbrowning]

No offense, Lee, but it seems like all you want to do with this is tell us that it can't be fixed or that you are not a member, but somehow magically the FFC will be different and is going to do all these (as yet unnamed) great things. As a member of both organizations, I honestly fail to see the difference, apart from the ADGA having to work its way out of a financial hole.

No offense, Lee, but it seems like all you want to do with this is tell us that it can't be fixed or that you are not a member, but somehow magically the FFC will be different and is going to do all these (as yet unnamed) great things. As a member of both organizations, I honestly fail to see the difference, apart from the ADGA having to work its way out of a financial hole.



One thing I may have miscommunicated to the ADGA members...
I have no interest in comparing the ADGA to the FFC. I have no interest in incorporating the ADGA into the FFC. I DO HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE FFC ASSISTING THE ADGA IN THEIR TIME OF NEED But what I can gather is that there is no interest from the ADGA in making this a reality... FFC members whom attend meetings will tell you that one thing I have preached since the clubs inception is UNITY

Distance between myself and the ADGA does not promote that concept very well now does that ????

As far as this statement " Lee, but it seems like all you want to do with this is tell us that it can't be fixed " - I am a mechanic, anything can be fixed ....... Remember I am here to help, I do not know what more I have to do to communicate that ....

And this : " magically the FFC will be different and is going to do all these (as yet unnamed) great things."

The FFC has great examples of what not to do with a disc golf club. As far as all these " unnamed great things " , if you had been present @ a club meeting you would understand that our focus is on structure as of now .

As far as things to come ...... Well that is a different story. I suggest you attend a meeting and find out what is really going on b4 you make such profound statements.

I have invested enough time ....
I have made myself perfectly clear....
I am done ... Best of luck...

[sandalman]

we've heard that sooooo many times before. :D

[DGBAMA92]

Too much Banter between the clubs - Cant we all just get along - :D:o

This is cool by the way: :D

http://www.texasdiscgolf.org/texasmapcolor.jpg_

[sandalman]

here's a coupla cool ones also that i whipped up... each balloon represents a zip code that has at least one discgolfer living in it. in hte live web version, you can roll over the balloon to see how many DGers are in each zip.

(76017 has the most in texas, with 21... at least as of the date of the data)

http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/tx1.jpg

http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/tx2.jpg

here is one with the regional overlay:

http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/tx3.jpg

[gregbrowning]

if you had been present @ a club meeting you would understand that our focus is on structure as of now .

As far as things to come ...... Well that is a different story. I suggest you attend a meeting and find out what is really going on b4 you make such profound statements.



I am a dues-paying member and I haven't heard any details yet. How come theonly people privy to these discussions are those who can make it to Ft. Worth by 6 pm on Thursday nights?

[sandalman]

cuz its a DBA, not a 501c6 :D

[my_hero]

I am a mechanic, anything can be fixed .......



What about rodent fetishes?

I wonder how many "ignore lists" the name discboomer is on. :D

[arlskipshot1]

Thanks alot, Jerry. Sounds like you've got some good things happening up there. Much luck to you. It must be hard to keep an organization in tact all year when you have to chip the ice off the baskets from Sept. to May. :D

[jasonc]

I heard a lot of speculation today on where we stand and I want clear some of that up. NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE TELLS YOU , even if it's your Mother, they do not know what they are talking about. The figures I am posting are the truth and none of them have been "taken care of" and are are still current debts of the ADGA. I even got the pleasure of being suprised with a new one this weekend :(.



Innova invoice dated 7/15/2004 $655.44
Innova invoice dated 10/12/2004 $2215.91
Barry Shultz's VPO payout $590.00
Des Reading's VPO payout $485.00
Jay Reading's VPO payout $135.00
PDGA player's fees and renewals $455.00*
HFDS for NT calenders $60.00


That's a total of $4596.35 that the ADGA is in debt as of right now that I am aware of. The next person to come up to me and say that I have no idea what I'm talking about and I've been exaggerating this whole time is likely to get KO'ed. Whether anyone else can accept it or not, Ginetta and I were really the only people who knew how much trouble the club was in..........well besides Toolen . If anyone wants to question any of those amounts or the legitimacy of them feel free to contact me, I can give you a contact number for each and every one of them and I can assure you that the numbers will match.



*The PDGA figure could grow. We knew of one renewal that was taken at VPO and turned that name into the PDGA. If Terry took more renewals that number could grow, but we have no idea how much until we have the actual paperwork in hand.

[lauranovice]

HEY, my mother knows what she is talking about !

(you know someone had to do it)

:p

[lauranovice]

seriously, Jason, thank you for all that you are doing!
Thank you for all the open honesty.

[mikeharrell]

as a former adga member all that i can say is HOW SAD. :mad:

[gotcha]

...but the best temp. set up tournament was when you set up the course in Euless on the land that was about to be developed. Loved that course.



http://img3.glowfoto.com/images/2007/02/08-0620178343T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=08-062017L&y=2007&m=02&t=jpg&rand=8343&srv=img3)

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May 1996 ~ Euless Open
PDGA C-Tier

What fun that tournament was! The turnout was unbelievable. We had 94 people show up for a c-tier that had been quickly thrown together as a fundraiser for the VPO. I remember we added a ghost card rather than turn four golfers away. Blistering hot temperatures....it was 104 degrees on Saturday and 105 on Sunday. After reading Clay and Craig's posts, I dug through my archives for the photo....I had forgotten about the course map!

Good ADGA memories.... :D

[discgolfdog]

Your mamma is SO fat...

[my_hero]

...but the best temp. set up tournament was when you set up the course in Euless on the land that was about to be developed. Loved that course.



http://img3.glowfoto.com/images/2007/02/08-0620178343T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=08-062017L&y=2007&m=02&t=jpg&rand=8343&srv=img3)

http://img3.glowfoto.com/images/2007/02/08-0620141778T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=08-062014L&y=2007&m=02&t=jpg&rand=1778&srv=img3)

May 1996 ~ Euless Open
PDGA C-Tier

What fun that tournament was! The turnout was unbelievable. We had 94 people show up for a c-tier that had been quickly thrown together as a fundraiser for the VPO. I remember we added a ghost card rather than turn four golfers away. Blistering hot temperatures....it was 104 degrees on Saturday and 105 on Sunday. After reading Clay and Craig's posts, I dug through my archives for the photo....I had forgotten about the course map!

Good ADGA memories.... :D



That is so awesome. Look at Skipper, Williams, Jendel, Seaboldt, Nelson, Red, Tracy, Lueke, Wimm, Hicks, Garmin, Jared, Rodney, etc..... WOW!

I remember buying some discs, one of which is still brand new. Didn't play the event for whatever reason; probably had to work.

Sadly, most of that area is apartments now.

JG, Glowfoto is good for temp pic hosting. ImageShack and Photobucket are better, and seem to last forever. I think it's time you and Marie come visit your DFW family, and extended DFW families. :D

[vinnie]

wow!!!
there is some old dogs in there.
that bring up some ol memories

[lauranovice]

the only ones I recognized were Tracy Nations and Jerry Seabolt (I think he was wearing the same bandana on his head last time I saw him.)

Which one is Skip?

[gotcha]

the only ones I recognized were Tracy Nations and Jerry Seabolt (I think he was wearing the same bandana on his head last time I saw him.) <font color="red"> That's funny! </font>

Which one is Skip?



I believe Skipper is the one four rows back (toward the right side) wearing a blue shirt.... :cool:

[gregbrowning]

Who is the Ken Climo impersonator sitting in the middle? :D

[my_hero]

LOL. Climo is Barry Pierce.

LQ, Jendel is sitting under Tracy. Look at his mulleTT. :D

[my_hero]

Hicks and Wimm are 2nd row above the sitting UNT shirt

[lauranovice]

wow, recognize all the names and now that you put them together recognize all the faces. What a difference 11 years makes. Of course, I'm glad none of you can dredge up a pic of me from 11 years ago. Wait, come to think of it, I looked a lot better 11 years ago. Oh, well, life happens.

Thanks, Jerry, bringing back memories is exactly what ADGA needed. It shows what is really important. Friends. Disc golf, then friends again.
If people work together, we can bring ADGA better than before.

[arlskipshot1]

Great pic Jerry. Brings back some cool memories.
A couple of other noteables in there are Maceman far back and middle and on Red's left with the long hair is Steve Hoff and holding the horns up behind Hoff's head is the one and only Ziggy King. Danny Waldron and Dirk Snow on the bikes, and sitting right at the front tire of DWs bike is John Garmon, the guy that has made the baskets for our trophies every year.

[arlskipshot1]

Just looking at it again ( thanks Jerry) and I see Jerry Burger, Jarred Payton, Rodney Copenhaver, and John Luecke. In the back left are two guys with their arms over each other's shoulder. The one on the left in the dark shirt is Sam Grizzaffi, and also in the back with his arm up in the air waving is Lil Davey Draz who must be standing on a car or something. :cool:

[crusher]

That's me and Sammy Joe in the back.

[gotcha]

...but the best temp. set up tournament was when you set up the course in Euless on the land that was about to be developed. Loved that course.



http://img3.glowfoto.com/images/2007/02/08-0620178343T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=08-062017L&y=2007&m=02&t=jpg&rand=8343&srv=img3)

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May 1996 ~ Euless Open
PDGA C-Tier





Is that Dave O. in the back row with an orange disc in his mouth? :)

[DGBAMA92]

I know this is off the subjuct at hand but here is an update:

After The Mid-Week event I ran the Wednesday Night Mini.
Even though things are up in the air we had a total of 7 players. Not a great turnout but enough to hold one. I will continue to hold the wednesday mini unless told otherwise. so here is the facts:

7 players
2 payouts
$14 to start new ace pot.

1st Place - Justin w/ 50 $36
2nd Place - Kieth M. w/ 53 $20

Nobody tore it up. So , I want these minis to continue. So be out there again in two weeks. Thanks to all that came out. :D:D :D

[gotcha]

Digging through my old photo albums I found some more oldies, but goodies....

http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2007/02/09-0746154853T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=09-074615L&y=2007&m=02&t=jpg&rand=4853&srv=img4)
This group photo was from the summer of 1992. We always had good turnouts for the Sunday minis, but this was during the long ace-less stretch and the pot was either close to a grand or possibly over. As you know, once that pot hits four digits, you start seeing HUGE fields on Sunday mornings.

http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2007/02/09-0746243277T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=09-074624L&y=2007&m=02&t=jpg&rand=3277&srv=img4)
Mickey Scott hit this long putt on Hole 11's a-pin. I'm unsure of the date, but this is either VPO '93 or '94. That's Mitch McClellan in the horizontal position. :D

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This photo is from the 1995 VPO. And, yes, Leyva hit the putt! :D

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Rob Chandler goofing around on Hole 9 (he hit the putt...).

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September 9, 1992 ~ Wednesday Night Mini at the Vet

This one has a story behind it. The ace pot had built up all summer long to $1,439. Someone (I do not remember who) suggested we play the Wed night mini and shoot at the ace pot for "everything over $1,000". If I remember correctly, at that time, we played the Wed night minis from the concrete tees...just like Sunday minis...and we shot at the same ace pot. We didn't have any reserve pots, either. It was all in one BIG pot back in those days. If an ace was hit, the next mini started from zero.

Well, we decided to hold a club vote right there on the spot. I am proud to say I was opposed to the idea and voted against it. So did several other people. The majority one, however, and we played the short tees for everything over $1,000. My last hole of the round was short 9 and I drilled a Cobra into the chains to claim the winnings of $439, reducing the ace pot back to $1000! (We never did that again....in fact, we started up a separate ace pool for the Wed league and soon developed a backup reserve pot). :D

This photo was taken late that evening and there were a few folks hanging out, enjoying the last of the ace beer I sent someone to purchase. In the photo, I'm holding the ace disc and my cash and Jim Myers is holding my rib cage....after soaking his hands in the ice chest! If the photo had been taken a second later, you would've seen a totally different look on my face! :D

The thing that I find funny about this story is the fact the ace pot continued to grow that year. Brian Mace finally hit the big one on Hole 2, January 10, 1993 for a total of $1,667.00. Had we not shot from the shorts that September evening, Brian probably would've cashed in that Viper shot for a total of $2,106.00! :eek: :D

Good times with good friends.... :)

[lauranovice]

Thanks for sharing the memories, Jerrry.
Is you see the Seneca thread you'll notice that I'll be in DC the weekend of their Soiree in April. My husband is going up their with me. He wants to play the tournament. I saw you were signed up and was hoping to meet you. Now I know who to look for. We'll look for the guy with the blue and white striped shorts and the shirt either cropped or pulled up. I look forward to meeting you.

Thanks again for sharing the memories.

[DGBAMA92]

FOUND JOHN - MY_HERO - YOUR AVATAR,

[my_hero]

FOUND JOHN - MY_HERO - YOUR AVATAR,



am i missing something? :D

[jasonc]

Just a little update. Thanks to the generosity of some of the members we were able to get some money to the touring players that were owed. It's not all of it, but it is definately a good start and forward progress. Not to mention that they were very happy to see some of the $$$$ finally in their hands. So here is where we stand as of now.

Innova invoice dated 7/15/2004 $655.44
Innova invoice dated 10/12/2004 $2215.91
Barry Shultz's VPO payout $590.00 paid $300 owe $290.00
Des Reading's VPO payout $485.00 paid $265 owe $220.00
Jay Reading's VPO payout $135.00 paid in full
PDGA player's fees and renewals $455.00*
HFDS for NT calenders $60.00

That leaves $3896.35 to go, but we put a descent size dent in it. Claydog got all of the club money from Terry this weekend and brought it out to me on Sunday. When I get time I'll let everyone know where we stand with that.

[my_hero]

....and i still have 40 premium plastic discs to donate. If you weren't so drunk saturday night you would have remembered them. :D :p

[jasonc]

....and i still have 40 premium plastic discs to donate. If you weren't so drunk saturday night you would have remembered them. :D :p



I don't remember you even mentioning them....guess I was intoxicated :confused: ;).

[DGBAMA92]

SWEET.

One month till Day Light Savings. Can't wait to see the attendance increase with more sun light. Next wednesday's mini is on the 14th - Valentines Day. So for all the guys who want to be in the dog house with the old lady :eek:, come on out and join us who do not have to worry about it. :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Thanks to all for supporting the efforts to get the ADGA on track. :D

[my_hero]

....and i still have 40 premium plastic discs to donate. If you weren't so drunk saturday night you would have remembered them. :D :p



I don't remember you even mentioning them....guess I was intoxicated :confused: ;).



Maybe, just maybe...i was too intoxicated and didn't remember to tell you to take "That" bin home.

[smokingun1]

Jason, did not u say there w/b some club meeting tomorrow? :cool:

[jasonc]

Jason, did not u say there w/b some club meeting tomorrow? :cool:



He's been drinking and typing agian :eek: :D.


We will be having a club meeting Thursday evening at 7:30 at the Mercado Juarez off of Matlock and I-20 in Arlington. We will be discussing the financial status of the club, ideas to help get us out of debt, club officer positions and many other things. If you have the time and desire please come out and let your voice and opinions be heard.

When you arrive just let them know that you are with the Arlington Disc Golf party and you shouldn't have any problems. Directions to the restaraunt are on thier website or the adress is 125 East I-20 Arlington, TX 76018 near the Parks Mall. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me at 817-703-3926.


As poted on this thread (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=653673&Main=652485#Post653673) that happens to be right below the one you are reading /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif .

[jasonc]

Jason, did not u say there w/b some club meeting tomorrow? :cool:



He's been drinking and typing agian :eek: :D.


We will be having a club meeting Thursday evening at 7:30 at the Mercado Juarez off of Matlock and I-20 in Arlington. We will be discussing the financial status of the club, ideas to help get us out of debt, club officer positions and many other things. If you have the time and desire please come out and let your voice and opinions be heard.

When you arrive just let them know that you are with the Arlington Disc Golf party and you shouldn't have any problems. Directions to the restaraunt are on thier website or the adress is 125 East I-20 Arlington, TX 76018 near the Parks Mall. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me at 817-703-3926.


As poted on this thread (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=653673&Main=652485#Post653673) that happens to be right below the one you are reading /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif .



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[seewhere]

BOO on the avatar :D

[discgolfdog]

I need to reserve the north pavillion for Club Championships and VPO for 2007. The VPO is Nov. 3rd and 4th. It's already on the tour schedule and sanctioned. I would like to do Club Campionships on Sunday Sept. 30th. Can anybody think of any conflicts with that date?

[DGBAMA92]

None that I can think of...