OMB vs. YGB 2007

[omegaputt]

MicKiney Sat Morning??

[Thor]

fliggle giggle

[okcacehole]

Sounds good Jason - give me a call on Friday

[okcacehole]

So did any of our guys hit the ace pot tonight?

Thursday - Porter - if the rain stays away

[baldguy]

49 people tonight, still no aces. The mud made for some interesting disc golf :D. we even got some very light rain for 3 or 4 holes. fun times as always.

I'm going to try and pick up a few Ontario-related stamps while I'm there. Anyone interested?

[baldguy]

looking good for golf this afternoon.

Porter 5:30

[okcacehole]

or 5:36 :D

-12, -11, -10, -10...correct me...I am probably wrong

Saturday...10am McKinney...meeting an OKIE DOUBLES brother at the course...

Bucky..what time at the BON Sunday???

I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!

[okcacehole]

Bucky..are you up for a singles round, backwards at GB??

Friday???

Team T&A will show that drives are just for show :D

[manderson]

mowers are at porter

[Thor]

yes i am def down for some backerds belt buster today adam!!

And as far as sun i think they are gonna play break of dawn 7 730, but i will def be playing a 2nd round when/if yall get there maybe around 9 9:30..

[okcacehole]

Bucker - I am off for the rest of the day so if you want to get a round in before GB this evening let me know..I may head up to Herrera's for some lunch also

GB at 4:45-5pm work for you???

[Thor]

works awsomley well is todd gonna join? Anyone else i feel like breaking +3 backerds

[baldguy]

And as far as sun i think they are gonna play break of dawn 7 730,


man that's earlier'n up a creek.

I'm out for golf on saturday, but sunday at audubon sounds good, assuming that I get my patio at least mostly done on saturday. 9 or 9:30? either should be fine with me

[okcacehole]

Todd should make it this evening also

McKinney tomorrow at 10am

Sunday Bon 9am sounds good but let me check with Gary to make sure

[Thor]

lol...
It is early but the best golf is played earlier n every which way but loose..

[baldguy]

yeah but if I get up that early I'll be tiredern all tarnation

[okcacehole]

There was a weekend of golfing...Friday backwards at GB with Parker, Buckey and Mike

Saturday..10 of us at McKinney..-11 won I think :o..good to see an OKIE jump in the mix for Sat...and lose his 454ft drive disc.. :p

Sunday 11 players at BON...-6 Watts/Parker,,-4 Murphy/Jones

then one more round at Porter Sun ...Kenny shoots -8...

Next Saturday is CH if you are not playing Crowley

[Pizza God]

played course #182 yesterday in Texarkana

Grady T Wallace Park, 9 holes, not worth playing other than adding another course to your list. The baskets look like they were from Spring Lake course. They were in bad shape and were pole hole lights. I have not played Spring Lake in the past year so I don't know for a fact.

So out of the 3 new courses i have played in the last week.

Texarkana - skip
Hot Springs - MUST PLAY
Jacksonville, just north of Little rock, not bad but a REAL long walk from 18 back to the parking lot.

[Thor]

golf today?

[okcacehole]

No golf for me today...going to dinner

McKinney tomorrow for sure...

Thursday GB

Friday - DJ, Corey and another will be in town..dinner at BJ's around 8pm and then poker afterwards

Saturday - Cedar Hill 10AM

Sunday - ?????

:D

[baldguy]

so, any aces last night at McKinney? Save me some of that cash :)

I've played only one course up here in Toronto so far. Centennial Park is pretty nice. Lots of elevation, some trees (especially on the original part of the course), and a decent wind. Officially 27 holes, although 3-4 of them aren't playable when the soccer fields are in use.

Gonna try and hit Toronto Island tomorrow and hopefully Bronte tonight. more tomorrow if I can. We did get to see Niagara Falls last night... very impressive but much more of a commercial vegas-style strip than I expected, at least on the Canada side. It was pretty funny that none of us Americans could cross the bridge into America because all of our Passports were back in Toronto.

Crowley this weekend, eh

[okcacehole]

2 aces last night - the backup pot will be close to $500 next week

GB tonight and then some Herrera's

[Thor]

HEll YEah crowley, its fun course now!

[l_7_ltrain]

My uncle Danny will be joining us in this evenings round at gb. all the way from the big city of Fort Stockton Tx pop.7000 :D

[oceanjones]

2 Aces? Doh!...If only they didn't keep me here for an extra week.

Well, in the spirit of reporting from afar (thanks Josh). I did get to play two courses in Flagstaff, (snowbowl and NAU). I also played Vista Del Comino and Fountain Hills last weekend. And last but not least I hit the local mini last night at Conocido park (its the one with the L shaped tee pad that points to two different baskets).

The craziest part is that for the first two weeks we were here it rained every day...every day for two weeks...in the DESERT! I'd complain about the heat, but I think you guys have it as bad as I do right now. ;)

Looking forward to getting back and warming up on those carrolton courses!

[baldguy]

the NAU course rocks! One of my favorites, even if I only got to play there once :). I played Bronte this afternoon with some locals. Some really great holes out there. It looks like the fairways play too closely together, but it actually works out well. Played the front 9 shorts +1 and the back 9 longs +5, all Baskets in the tougher positions. I was ok with that my first time through. I'd expect to shoot under par for a good round from the shorts. a few over from the longs. The current course record from the longs is -5 by Kim Scott Wood (canadian DG hero and PDGA rookie of the year).

Toronto Island tomorrow... all day, I hope. I need to be out of there by about 2:30, so I'm thinking 1 round from each set of tees. I just need to find a place to print out the course map :)

[Thor]

man u gonna have it rough this weekend bbd !!
All that travel and some golfs, 2 rounds of 27 sat...and 1 round of 27 sunday.

[baldguy]

fun times, bucko. you should come out and play the PIASO :)

see some of you in the morning

[okcacehole]

How did you like Shelly Sharp park Justin? Glad you were able to play the mini at Concido - I enjoyed that course...

Good luck to a few of you at PIAS - DJ, Corey and another guy will be there from OKC

CH tomorrow at 10am for the rest of us.

[manderson]

played the entire Lake course today. hole 3 is a little scary, no hyzer line. Hole 17 is also a little tight, but the rest of the course is back to normal for the most part. it was nice to get back there and play all 18.

[baldguy]

PIASO update:
I ended up 4th in MA2
DJ Wins MPG
Coda tied for first in MPO
Buckwalter tied for first in MA1
playoffs can be so frustrating :D

[okcacehole]

How about the Chick :D

Coda lost in the playoff...

Nice shooting again Bucky - guess the play-off curse continues for now

Leaving Thursday night for OKC, but will be playing Tuesday at Porter...

I know Gary, Todd, Parker, Bucky and a few others are in for Tuesday...

Leonel - I should know about a partner for you in a day or two...Cameron was going to check back with one other guy he already asked before...but I will keep you posted..

[baldguy]

the chick dropped out after one round. the heat and not-so-filtered water on the course did her in. The upside of that deal is t hat I got to carry her umbrella around for the remaining two rounds... it was a lifesaver, even if it was polka-dotted :)

I should be in for Tuesday. I may try to talk Keith into some okie dubs this weekend... we'll see

[baldguy]

oh yeah, I have a new Funkytown bag tag... any guesses on the number? :D

[okcacehole]

500 :confused: :D

I doubt it is #7 since I gave that one to Mace.

[oceanjones]

I have the day off. Anyone up for a round?

[baldguy]

maybe... I'm off sick today though. I really need to recuperate from this weekend. If anything changes, I'll give you a call. check your PMs.

Adam - it's not #7, although I know Mace doesn't have that one any more. It's lower than #7 :)

[Thor]

i know i know
Its 1 or 4
or 3,2,or 5
But i think its maybe 6...

[baldguy]

one of your answers was correct.

[Thor]

Well where are we playing today please?

[baldguy]

Murphy says porter... I should be able to make it

[okcacehole]

Porter it is...guess we are wating on Josh :p

[omegaputt]

LOL

[okcacehole]

Surf and Turf Friday night Jason at DJ's...

I will bring your ORC with me - see you soon brother...

[mikeharrell]

good job buxter, you.ve been the star all your life in everything you do why should disc golf be any differant. :D

[okcacehole]

And here we go ladies and cattle...OKIE DUBS is upon us and the BIRDIE is flying....

OKC bound and arriving 9PM tomorrow...

off to the Mill, The Store and The Porthole...to start one wonderful vacation...

The Snake, The Dog Tag and The Comet are in tow

HERE WE FRIGGIN GO!!!!!!!!

(*if you didn't follow this you haven't been there*) :D

[reddman]

Anybody not headed to OK that is going to play some golf today? When and where?

[Thor]

The comet!!! Is is safely buckled in the seatbelt?

[okcacehole]

The Comet and I are watching TV currently, but I will buckle 'em in :D

[Thor]

lol :D nicely sir.
See ya there...


And mike harrell is that a hint of sarcasm i see up there?

[mikeharrell]

no way, im just jelous that ill never beat you in disc golf again, thats all. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[okcacehole]

T&A is in the house...Parker and Watts are about 1 hour out and Leonel behind them

HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phillipc]

leonel is always behind :D
I suspect he and his partner will remain behind through the duration of the weekend as well. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

See ya'll Sataurday AM or Friday Night if you get into something crazy

Adam, Werent you supposed to give me your #

[baldguy]

Tabor/Curran were -14 at porter last night for the win. Keith hits his second ever ACE last night on hole #11 too. Fun times for all who were there :)

good luck in OKC boys. For those staying in town, we'll be heading to Cedar Hill this weekend, weather permitting.

[Thor]

Nice ace too! I can say i had fun....
But i think i threw evry disc even my putter ob somehow.
I was ob er n all get out cuz i kept throwing er way out yonder n [censored]. CUT BITCZ!!!!

[okcacehole]

I have your number...dinner tonight at DJ's if you make it in..

give me a ring 469-585-1735

[baldguy]

almost had another ace today at porter (decided against CH since so many are out of town)... splashed out of #5. hit really solid but somehow still managed to fall out and end up under the basket. Deidre and I beat Keith and Clayton -6 to -1 :D

[okcacehole]

GW aces #12 at Will on Friday for fun and then aces #12 at Dolese today for cash!!!!!!

6 or 7 aces already in the A Flight....

Kyle and the KID .... -33.....

[oceanjones]

Is Greenbelt worth playing? I'm thinking of trying to get out for a round this evening.

[Thor]

hey J.J....i think parker and i were gonna head out there about 530 if u wanna meet up..

[oceanjones]

See you at 5:30! Greenbelt right?

[Thor]

yeah
GB

[okcacehole]

What a weekend - can't believe nobody wanted to let some stories rip yet so here it goes

Thursday Night Todd and I closed down The Store Club with fellow Okie Jason Schwake and shot pool, took shots and caught up until early into Friday

Friday Todd and I went to shoot a round at Will Rogers and Gary and Parker caught up on hole #7...Gary aces #12 out there right after I tell him that was my last ace on that course!

Finished the round and went to Fred's and bought $300 worth of plastic from them between the 4 of us. They were kind enought to give us all a Free Beer and 1 Milk for Parker :p

Next we played doubles at Dolese with 8 of us. Todd and I, Parker and Watts, Schwake and Wilkes, and Casias and Roubideux had a great round. Everyone shooting double digits down and the course looked great. The locals have stood up slowly and started getting Dolese back to its' grand status.

Red Dog next for lunch and 5 of us have some great burgers and nasty dancer. Note to self: Lap Dances to Primus songs cost $20.00, not $5 - thanks Megan

Onward to Joe's house for some more shopping and we blew another pile of cash over there on shirts, discs, stickers, ect.
I was able to hit the pool for a bit and that was what was needed at that point.

I was able to pick up a CFR Destroyer!!!!!

DJ hosted us all to Surf and Turf that night at his house and the steaks and fish were amazing. He came up with a new putting team game and our team won. He gave everyone on the team a brand-new, dyed Star Wraith! Stayed up sippin CFO's and having a good time.

Dolese was our first and second round on Saturday and it was CRAZY!!! 100+ players on that course alone. It started to Drizzle and our card was already the loudest on the course (unsanctioned).

When our card got to Hole #17 we grabbed Steve King's Pop-Up Canopy from the parking lot and carried it for 3 holes. We would place it over the teepad before driving and over the benches while putting. I bet nobody had seen a 40x40 white tent being carried through a course before!!

Worst Ettiquette ever :p ( guy on a card in front of us)

Gary aces yet another time on Saturday and so began the splitting of a $1040 Ace Pot

Sunday we woke up to see what looked like a Hurrican sitting over OKC. SIDEWAYS RAIN!!!...it was amazing, but sitting at Woodson park for an extra 45 minutes gave way to clear, sunny skies and normal OK winds.

I was dying on Sunday morning, but played on. 6pt and 3.2 don't mix! Or maybe it was having 50 of them - hmmmm

2 rounds at Woodson and then awards for 234 players - the biggest tourney ever in OK besides Worlds!!! Congrats to Wayne and Mike!

All the OMB's went home after awards along with Bucky and Sean, but Leonel, Tood and I went to dinner at Joe Rotan's for more Steaks, Corn and Potatoes. Leonel dropped some more money at the Twisted Store and we played until 2am Sunday and drove to DJ's.

Back to Dallas Monday morning and recovery, cleaning clothes and not carrying the bag again until Thursday

Bucky - I have one of those USDGC Shirts if you want for $30.00 - Red, Blue or White

Where is the game Thursday?? Not sure if you kept the rotation last Thursday or if anyone played.

Giles and Phil bailed Sunday morning after seeing OKC weather!!

Steve - do you have time to dye a few of those Crystal White Valks I bought?

DId anyone make it home with my Twisted Flyer Chair??? It has my name on the seat. Gary - I have your chair.

[reddman]

Nice story. Scores??! :p Did you lose the playoff again? :D

[okcacehole]

We didn't even have to worry about a playoff..not sure where we placed but we shot -10 for the weekend and were beat by Leonel/Mike, Gary/Steve, Jack/Kevin and Bucky/Sean..all teams were very close until the final 2 rounds on Sunday

DJ won Grandmasters with Joe T. Kyle and Coda won Pro. 2 of my okie boys won MA1.

Hopefully scores will be up in a few days

[Phillipc]

Not to make excuses for bailing but...
1. Our hotel room at the biltmore had water pouring through the ceiling.
2. We just weren't feeling the drive home that night
3. We could feel the effects of being in Oklahoma for more than 24 hours.. (similar to what a warewolf goes through during a full moon)
4. It just wasn't windy enough to satisfy, so we went to Rockwall.

[okcacehole]

Nobody knows better how to Enjoy , Party-Up , Squeeze-the-Fun-from , and still compete in OKIE DOUBLES better than Adam Murphy :



Thanks Wayne!!!!

See you next year!

[wforest]

… here ya go , FurryDog … your Okie Doubles Discs have the following hid-in-there …
.
.
HYZER
BOGEY
STABLE
PUTTER
TORQUE
HELIX
ACERUN
CAROL
SPEED
SCORE
DOLESE
WOODSON
FOREST
DISCGOLF
CRUSH
KIMMIE
BIRDIE
POWER
TULSA
CLICK
DRIVER
UPSHOT
PAR
SPIN
OKIE DOUBLES
GLIDE
SHANK

.
.
.
… 27 of ‘em … good luck …

[okcacehole]

5:30PM Porter - Thursday

[shaunh]

DOPE is on there as well..... I think...

[okcacehole]

easiest to find...

10am Rockwall...Saturday...



when are the baskets going in PIZZA?

[Pizza God]

i will put the extra baskets in either on the 8th or 9th.

I also want to fix all the tee signs that weekend.

Do we need to replace the sleeve for #11 at Greenbelt?????

I have one we could install.

In fact, lets have a work day that weekend. I will make an announcement around the 1st/2nd. I will know what I have to work that weekend by then.

Goal, put a sleeve in for #11 if needed.

Fix all the Tee Signs at both courses.

Anyone have the knowhow to make a new tee sign for #12 at Jimmy Porter????

BTW, I have the money for all these needed repairs.

where are people playing tomorrow morning?

[baldguy]

I heard 8:00 am @ Bear Creek for some of our crew. Myself... I'll be sleeping at 8:00 :)

[okcacehole]

I think there may be a doubles match today later in the afternoon. We had 14 players show up yesterday morning for Doubles at Rockwall and Bucky and Nate shot a -1 from the Longs. We then played a 9 person round of singles and I took that match with a +1 from the shorts

Dieder and Woody want to challenge Todd and I to some doubles matches, so we will probably begin that today.

I can help with some work at GB and Porter. Are you wanting to replace #12 at Porter with a similar sign as the others currently out there?

I don't have the tools, but can definatelly help in the construction phase.

Not sure about the sleeve at GB, but will check Thursday or earlier

[okcacehole]

The first battle of T.A.W.D is over and we won by 2

hit 10 birdies in a row on holes #6-15..then dirtied the card and hit #2 and #3 for a -11, -9 ...team RoadHazard hit a -7 or -8

Tuesday is on for Parker at least so shall we shoot Porter then since Thursday is GB????

[Pizza God]

Would like to make the sign look the same. (#12 Jimmy Porter)

From what others have told me, #11's sleeve is missing too. Thats ok, we have on in storage, it is just a matter of installing the new one.

[baldguy]

I could be wrong, but I think there is more than one sign missing at Porter...

I wonder how much money it would take to get signs like the Rockwall signs. I'd be more than happy to help out with fundraising for a project like that

[hammer55]

Or even better, how about those granite tombstone looking signs they have at Flightline in Oklahoma? Good luck lifting one of those.

[steve_parker]

porter 5:30 it is......

[baldguy]

anybody interested in Porter basket-to-basket? maybe backerds?

[Thor]

hell yeah lets do it if its not too crowded ...basket to basket at least! that wont matter if its crowded.. 10 to 11 should be fun and 11to 12 and 12 to 13 and 13 to 14 wel i dont think that iwll work actually but it would be funny. So basically disregard everything i have just said...

[baldguy]

we could move 14's teebox out of the woods but still play it way back from normal. 16 to 17 would be insane

[Thor]

thats a par 3

[baldguy]

fo sho. so is 10-11. more than a 3, you're DQ'd :D

[oceanjones]

GB today?
Whats the start time?

[Thor]

745

[EscapeGoat]

You guys should meet out at shawnee park in Plano. Its been revamped with new baskets and mando signs. I believe on Thursday nights they have a bikini model mini tournament with free beer and peanuts.

[okcacehole]

5:30 GB today

Last I heard the changes at Plano really messed up the course...I haven't been there, but I hear there are a LOT of flow issues now

[EscapeGoat]

5:30 GB today

Last I heard the changes at Plano really messed up the course...I haven't been there, but I hear there are a LOT of flow issues now



I'll just say it would take a bikini model mini and free beer to get me out there. I work a mile from there and its a sweet "lunch time practice" course.

[Thor]

im far to cool to play 9 holers....;)

[EscapeGoat]

It s actually 18 holes now. Maybe even 19 or 20.

Just play Porter

[Thor]

really. hmm i may check that out.. I don't favor porter id rather gb than porter.

[baldguy]

I'll just say it would take a bikini model mini and free beer to get me out there.


WTF happened to the peanuts?

[EscapeGoat]

I'll just say it would take a bikini model mini and free beer to get me out there.


WTF happened to the peanuts?



I have some

[okcacehole]

2 more aces added to the list....are you still missing that '07 ACE??? :D

[reddman]

I'll just say it would take a bikini model mini and free beer to get me out there.


WTF happened to the peanuts?



I have some



tmi!!!!!

[Phillipc]

still got some sun chips?

[hallp]

i heard this is the thread that i needed to ask about minis at green belt and porter are there any scheduled minis this weekend???

[okcacehole]

There are currently no mini's held at either park


Does Cedar Hill sound good for Saturday?

[oceanjones]

If you were going to be someplace closer I could make the morning round. But I can't do Cedar Hill tomorrow.

(now your all chanting CEDAR HILL, CEDAR HILL...I see how you are)

[RustyP]

What time you baggers playing CH tomorrow morning? I might be in town for the long weekend...

[okcacehole]

10AM CEDAR HILL

I know Parker, Jack, Kevin, myself and Todd will be there, plus some othes I am sure. McGough may join us for the early round

Josh, Bucky?? You guys still going out of town for the weekend?

[manderson]

Hey all,
I played in Shaine Power's tournament last year and really enjoyed the course. He will have the course ready to play Monday from 9:00 to 4:00 and is running a bring your partner doubles at 10:00. I think I've talked Parker into playing. It would be nice to kick some other omb-ygb butt, so don't be scared.

Driving directions: From Dallas take US 75 North to Wilmeth Rd, exit 42 in McKinney. Take Wilmeth Rd east 1 mile to McDonald St./Hwy 5 and go right. Once on Hwy 5 go 2/10 of a mile and take your first left onto McIntyre Rd/CR 274 and follow 1.1 miles to CR 331. Take a left onto CR 331 and follow 9/10 of a mile to stop sign (CR 2933) and turn left. Follow 2933 2.3 miles to CR 341and take a right. Follow CR 341 8/10 of a miles to Harmony Hill Ranch. 2957 CR 341, McKinney, TX 75070. *Look for disc golf signs as you drive for further clarification.*
For more information please call Shaine Power at 972-542-1589

[okcacehole]

I planned on seeing if Todd was up for it since we are playing for cash

[manderson]

JJ, I would be up for a morning round, where and when?

[manderson]

justin, sent you a pm

[18567]

Anyone decide what they are doing tomorrow (Bon???)?

[okcacehole]

Did you guys decide on a course for the Tuesday round?

Porter is Thursday this week and if anyone has some big trash bags, bring them out...we need to pick up that course since some of the other golfers out there do not...

Can't have our house looking bad before MJCO :D

[manderson]

mowers are at porter this morning

[Thor]

michael jordans corporate outing....

[oceanjones]

My Johnson Creates Oooohhhhs.

[Phillipc]

Mike and Justin's Chain Outs (from yesterday) :(

[Thor]

magic jumping crabs own!!!!!!

[oceanjones]

Ouch Philthy...but don't i need to get over the front of the basket for it to be a chain out? :)

[Phillipc]

that wasn't a slam JJ.. but rather an observation put into an acronym.. maybe should be "Mr. Justin's Clank Off's"??

[oceanjones]

Yes, that has a ring to it.

Maybe for Mr. Jims it can be.

Mr. Jones' Calibration On

[steve_parker]

I dont know about Justin banging baskets..... but Bucky needs to get them crabs taken care of......

[n8bitner]

Where you guys playing tonight?

[Thor]

MICK JAGGERS CABLES OUT !!

[baldguy]

looks like rain today... but I"m in for a 5:30 round if it holds off. someone make a decision. GB backerds?

[n8bitner]

I think Gary said something about porter at 5:30 today. Can you confirm that?

[steve_parker]

yes Nate.... porter 5:30

[baldguy]

nate smoked it tonight with a -12 (I think... maybe -11) including a bomb on #16 that hit a tree up high and left him with a 25-foot putt for birdie. Jack hit -8 followed by Kevin McGill at -6, myself at -5, and Parker somewhere close to that. I think everyone else was around -2 or -3. Fun times... hopefully the rain lets us play more this week

[n8bitner]

Josh- thanks for the recognition!! :DIt would have been a -13 if not for that bogey on 13. Oh well...If the rain lets up today, My Dad and I will be out at Greenbelt at around 5:30 if anyone cares to join.

[Thor]

nice shooting tex. I will be joinging you guys today if weather permits/...

[n8bitner]

Rain looks like its gone for the day!!

[steve_parker]

its not 4:00 yet..... both of you, BACK TO WORK....

[n8bitner]

Work is super slow. I just talked with Pappa B and he is at home. I think I might head over there and play Rockwall and then come back out to Carrollton and play GB. Anyone else in on all that?! :D

[Phillipc]

Nate.. Ya'll could come hang with us at the Mckinney MINI.. It was nice meeting you guys last time.

[Thor]

Lemme know if plans for GB @5:30 change if not ill play backerds, with anyone who wants to come out..

[Thor]

its not 4:00 yet..... both of you, BACK TO WORK....



Parker dont you have some scratch offs to do during everyone else's work hours?

[RustyP]

I'll see you guys next weekend at the MJCO!

Might Just Conquer (the) Opposition :D

By the way, any of you guys living in/near Carrollton have a spare couch or an empty floor I could crash on? I was going to stay with a buddy of mine, but he'll be out of town that weekend...

[baldguy]

We have a guest bedroom that is yours for the crashing. We are about 20 minutes from Carrollton, just up I-35. Lemme know... you have my number.

[okcacehole]

and then the record was tied

Todd/Jack -15.....can't putt on 7 or 17 :D

anyone playing FRI????...give me a call..

[okcacehole]

off for the rest of the day if anyone wants to get some rounds in today

[n8bitner]

What is the course doubles record? I would have to say that 15 down is right there!

Great shooting by Todd and Jack!!!

On the other card...my partner John Wladron hit the ace on 11!

Oh Yea I forgot to mention that 16 was birdied for the second straight round!

Good golf all they way around. :D

[okcacehole]

In our group 15 ties the record the Mark and Brian shot lost year

Nice birdie on 16 ...AGAIN!

Dig the LOGO this year Steve - great basket # choice :D:D

http://www.carrolltonopen.com/images/stories/2007logo.jpg

[n8bitner]

Steve came up with this?

[okcacehole]

Steve Wind

[n8bitner]

Oh IC. Anyone playing today?

[reddman]

You guys get to work! :p

[steve_parker]

yes Nate.... several of us will be at Greenbelt at 5:15...

[n8bitner]

I'll be there around 5. Thanks man!

[EscapeGoat]

Parker, We might do some match play at Rockwall tomorrow.

[Thor]

its on today , ill bring my water shorts..

[okcacehole]

where is the round tomomrrow for those that are not playing in the skins match?

[baldguy]

and then the record was tied

Todd/Jack -15.....can't putt on 7 or 17 :D

anyone playing FRI????...give me a call..


They hit 17... it was 18 where the watts weenie-wagging took its toll :D

oh, and FYI - it's bad form to link an image from another site... I'll let it slide this time but if you want to use an image, find a place to host it

[n8bitner]

What time at Rockwall tomorrow?

Good shooting today Bucky...-8!

[EscapeGoat]

10:00

[okcacehole]

Wow..you let it slide - how noble of you :p

[baldguy]

well it is my server, and I do pay for the bandwidth... I could have blocked it ;)

fun times at skins today. my last hoorah in intermediate and I managed to beat the field by 5 strokes the first round... then only take 4 skins :D. Gotta love the fun formats though, it's a nice break from the usual.

Anyone playing tomorrow?

[reddman]

Anyone playing tomorrow?



What time and where? Afternoon round anyone?

[okcacehole]

8:30 Porter

I think a few of them are talking about playing all day...

some may also still meet at Porter at 9am..not sure

I am hoping to find a few to go throw the extra baskets in at each course with Pizza and put #11 back in the ground

[baldguy]

We also need to get our sponsorship money in to Pizza. I'll be giving him a check on Tuesday. If you want to contribute, bring me some money this week. Our total contribution will be at least $100. I'm personally committed to at least $20 but will make up any difference to be sure we're at the $100 mark. Anything I collect that goes over $100 will be put into the tournament somehow, either as ace pot money or however Brian chooses. It would be nice if I got some help on this one :)

[okcacehole]

Pizza..I have called you twice...

[Thor]

my feet are smoked!! -23 after 4 rounds.

[okcacehole]

Good rounds today...I was glad to shoot 36 holes with only 1 bogey and -11

2 more rounds I would have never made...the pool in-between rounds was the key

Watts - are you still in for doubles on Friday with DJ and I? One of the okie boys needs a partner...probably shoot about 4pm

[okcacehole]

Tuesday golf??? someone let me know where...and not at 5:25 :D

Who all will be playing Doubles on Friday and what times?

[oceanjones]

I'm in for Golf today! Someone else make the call as far as the course...I don't know what you guys have played more of.

[n8bitner]

John and I will be at GB at 5:30pm. I am sure the old man will be there also. :D

[oceanjones]

Sounds great to me!

[n8bitner]

Is this JJ?

[baldguy]

thats JJ alright. he hears about an old man being somewhere and he just can't control his excitement.

I'm going to try and be there by 5:30 as well. GB plays a little bit better in the mud than porter does, although porter does drain faster... anyway, GB it is. extra baskets and all :)

[n8bitner]

I think the old man might be out. Aparently he is having one heck of a day at the grind stone. I will be out there early more than likely trying to get my putting game squared away! :D

[Thor]

man i could still be there since the last time i played and not have squared my putts away... Just park the drives every time and ur solid gold.

[oceanjones]

You can call me JJ, Ocean, Fugly...whatever you want.

Except for Josh...he has to call me Mr. Jones. (Dr. Jones works for me as well.)

[prairie_dawg]

MICK JAGGERS CABLES OUT !!


Cable baskets suc k anyway

[baldguy]

Except for Josh...he has to call me Mr. Jones. (Dr. Jones works for me as well.)


"No time for love, Dr. Jones!" (that's a double movie quote) :D

BTW - grats on the ace, Ray... but WTF were you doing at Shawnee? :confused: :cool:

[prairie_dawg]

When I get home at 7:30, change clothes I only have time to get to Shawnee for almost 18 holes before the sun goes down. It's <2 miles from home. #14 happened to be the last hole I played as it was getting too dark to see under the trees. Luckily it went in or I'd have had a tough time finding it even with it being white!

Strange layout those 18 at Shawnee :eek: :D:cool:

[disc54]

When I get home at 7:30, change clothes I only have time to get to Shawnee for almost 18 holes before the sun goes down. It's <2 miles from home. #14 happened to be the last hole I played as it was getting too dark to see under the trees. Luckily it went in or I'd have had a tough time finding it even with it being white!

Strange layout those 18 at Shawnee :eek: :D:cool:



Yes strange indeed -10 under record in singles some little guy ;) just smoking it up out their all the time !!! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[okcacehole]

Happy Birthday Ben Cole!!! Enjoy!

[okcacehole]

Porter today at 5:30 or so

[baldguy]

everyone who's interested: bring some money to help me pay for our MJCO sponsorship. I forgot to drop Bryan's check yesterday, but I'll be dropping it today. I'm in for $20, I need help with the other $80.

[oceanjones]

You will all be happy to know that I have found a conclusive answer to last nights putting stance question.

http://www.pdga.com/rules/qa.php (click on the drop down menu and choose "Maintaining balance while putting") or http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=630108&an=0&page=16#Post 630108 I have included the applicable text below to save time.


Rule Question: Maintaining balance while putting
Question
"I have a good rules question for you involving the stance rules. A player uses an object (in this case a branch) behind him to maintain balance for a putt. First, would this be considered "full control of balance"? Second, could you argue, if the branch is not so large that the players body weight will not move it, that it is a violation of 803.03 D and or 803.04 A because they could have moved the branch less by not hanging on it? Thanks for any input."

Response
The question can be boiled down to: Can a player hold on to an object behind his lie to maintain balance while throwing/putting?

Applicable rules:


803.04 (Stance)
803.05 (Obstacles and Relief)
804.05 (Disqualification and Suspension)

Discussion:

The rules do not require that you maintain your balance while putting. You can have a grand mal seizure as long as you don't step ahead of your lie. At the time you decide to step ahead of your lie is when you have to demonstrate balance. This is simply to prove that you are not committing a falling putt, such that you would not be able to stop yourself from falling forward due to the motion of your putt. Grabbing a branch is merely acquiring another support point, which is perfectly legal, as long as it is not ahead of your lie.

Holding on to something BEHIND your lie is not prohibited by the rules, provided that the tree that the golfer is using as a supporting point is in-bounds (803.03.A (3)).

The branch must not be moved, or else the player would be in violation of one or both of 803.04.D and 803.05.A, which require you to take the stance that results in the least movement of objects that are part of the course and which prohibit you from moving a branch to "make room for a throwing motion".

Conclusion:

A player can hold on to something behind her lie, in certain circumstances, without violating the PDGA rules. In general that which is not prohibited by the PDGA rules is allowed, provided of course, that the action done by the player is not considered "a willful attempt to circumvent the rules of play". (This, of course, is cheating!)

Other Comments:

Many members of the committee have actually tried to hold on to some object behind their lie, while leaning forward to throw or putt. In our opinion this action makes the ensuing throw/putt MORE difficult to accomplish.

The PDGA Rules Committee

Carlton Howard, Chair
John Chapman
Conrad Damon
Harold Duvall
Joe Garcia
Jim Garnett
Rick Voakes



Since I am a "mature" adult I will only say this one time....nany nany boo boo.

[baldguy]

ha

so where's my $20? :D(not in relation to the above post)

[baldguy]

now that I think about it, I have a sub-question for discussion: how does the above ruling apply to park benches, logs, etc. that could be used as a seat while putting?

[Phillipc]

Putting sitting down is difficult!!!

Side note: Anyone up for playing Rockwall. Took off today.

[oceanjones]

I still have your 20...I'll have to give it to you tomorrow.

[discgolfdog]

"Since I am a "mature" adult I will only say this one time....nany nany boo boo. "
I like Justin, he always takes the high road.

[baldguy]

I wish I could take today off and play rockwall :(

playing Greenbelt tonight, though. all 21 holes. I won't be able to get there early unless my 4:00 meeting ends before 5:00... but I don't see why we can't start a card early and another card at 5:30. should make it easier to get all 21 holes done before dark. I'm planning to leave work right after my meeting, so I should be there by 5:30. Deidre is going to play tonight too, so if you guys start w/o us no biggie.

[baldguy]

by the way, thanks to Jay for helping with the sponsorship and to Justin and Steve for committing to help. With my $20, that bring us to $80. A few more helpers and we'll have some extra to put into the tournament. I'm thinking either the ace pot or the course record bounty. If we get quite a bit more than the $100, I'd like to see about putting the cash into a 1st-place MA1 and first-place MM1 bonus. Something like that would be fun

[Thor]

hell i hope were playing 2 cards, i cant get my shet out of the water before i have to tee off agian....

[hammer55]

#11 is not in the ground yet....at least not the basket. The sleeve will be there but the basket is getting welded and will not be put in until tomorrow around lunch time.

[hammer55]

I'd help out with the sponsership $$ but I think Jen would kill me since we have already donated $100.

[Pizza God]

i would help out too, but I already put $1000 in. :D

yes, the sleeve is in place, the basket will be in tomorrow. But the other 20 holes are out there.

I would still like someone to install the number 4 tee sign. I want too move that one over so everyone tees off from the sidewalk.

[okcacehole]

no sidewalk...the tee on the right is fine...

we practiced the sidewalk all last year and you moved it to the dirt...the year before it was the sidewalk :D:D

No long on #7 this year??? didn't see any spraypaint...

#9 as well...or will the signs go in Saturday morning?

204 is the MAGIC #... :D

higher or lower...

Poker Friday night at our place...

Doubles at 4pm...

we have a full card, but there is a OKC guy that needs a partner

[Pizza God]

7 and 9 will be moved in the morning, I will also mark 4

[okcacehole]

There is a great start to the morning...just totalled the front end of my truck off some idiot w/o insurance...my fault besides the fact she slammed her brakes at a green light

Going to get towed in a few minutes, then head to the dentist and then hopefully still make doubles by 4pm

[oceanjones]

The day could only get better from here? (trying to think of something positive to say)

[okcacehole]

It is getting better...this beer is really cold :)

[oceanjones]

YEAH!! :cool:

[okcacehole]

Did Gary get a hold of you for doubles Justin?

I am still planning on making it and if something changes I will call one of you guys

[oceanjones]

Yeah, Gary got ahold of me. I'm going to try to get out of work at 3 today. See you then.

[okcacehole]

Cool..I am off to get a rental car, then go to the dentist and then lunch...I should be at the park by 3:30 or so

[Thor]

I need a dubs partner, if anyones intererested pm, call whatever..

[baldguy]

right now I'm not planning on playing... but I might just get sick and have to go home early. If I do, then I can take care of things I needed to get done today and I'll play dubs with ya

[Thor]

i got a call from anderson earlier, were gonna play today. Thx tho bbd.

[okcacehole]

pushing my schedule back a bit - I will be at GB at about 4pm now...the Okies should be there close to that time.

[Thor]

Im not sure what the dubs course record at greenbelt within the group is but i think Jack Tabor and I made a good run at it with a -16 down yest. without playing hole 11, very nice shooting jack!

[oceanjones]

tuh!

[baldguy]

In 2005, two teams tied at 45 (-18). last year, 2 teams tied for first in open with 48 apiece (-15). there have been scores of 46 and 47 in years past.

still not bad for a couple of baggers like you guys :)

1997-2005 MJCO Tournament History (http://www.carrolltonopen.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemi d=30)

[okcacehole]

I think that record was smashed last night

-20 and missed the last putt for a perfect round

[n8bitner]

Parker is the man!!!!! Good job bro! Good job to all of the OMB/YGB's!!! We should rename our group to the CTP's!!!!! :D

[okcacehole]

Ditto..Parker played some great golf and has a new basket to show for it...

7 CTP's from our guys and gals...

Rusty - I have your payout...it was split between 7 players

[DOC65]

Congratulation again Parker!!! Once I learn to play this game I'll be giving you a run for your money!!! :D

[oceanjones]

Lots of highlights

Way to go Parker!! Between the win and the side bets, you made out like a bandit!

Gotta give some props to Josh; cashing in MA1!

Todd scoring third place! Very consistent, solid golf.

Nate cruising through round 4 with a -13 and jumping into open cash!

Way to go team CTP!!

[shaunh]

JJ the last hole of the tourney will be a hard one to forget....
U had everyone cracking up!!!
:)

[EscapeGoat]

Way To Go Parker!!!!

[n8bitner]

JJ the last hole of the tourney will be a hard one to forget....
U had everyone cracking up!!!
:)



What was so funny? Please share!

[oceanjones]

PLEASE!! ALLOW ME.

Hole C at green belt. Last hole. Bogey free round. 3 Birds.

The drive is right of the pin and in the water. I was mad. (It is possible that I uttered an explitive.) I mark my lie, line up my rhyno and promptly shank it into the water (it never had a chance). At that point I realized i was taking a triple bogey on the hole and I started laughing (a lot). I guess I was kind of tired because I really had a hard time stopping. I advanced my mini the 4 feet that my disc went before crossing into the water again. And took my 6 like a man (or maybe a little girl). Thats how you go from 3 under to par on the last whole of the round.

[n8bitner]

O IC!!! You already told me that happened...but your whole card was laughing at you!?!?! Way to bring the card up! or down however you look at it!! :)

[RustyP]

Rusty - I have your payout...it was split between 7 players



WOOHOO! What'd I get...half a Soft Magnet? :D

[oceanjones]

So, who is making it out to the 2nd Dunn Java Classic. Cash payout to all divisions and a fun, 21 hole course. I think you'll have to use your head and incorporate some course management...but don't let that scare you. For added excitement you get to play through some front yards, pastures and fences!

[n8bitner]

Where is that one at? :confused:

[EscapeGoat]

Its in McKinney

Map to Harmony Hill (http://www.ccdiscgolf.com/Harmony_Hill_Disc_Golf_course.php)

[RustyP]

Not me...I'll be playing the innagural tournament at Lake Bistineau State Park's new course in Doyline, LA. Sucks that these events are on the same day...they're both awesome courses.

Luckily, none of those Louisiana boys know about my sorry showing at MJCO, so I can still make a good first impression /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[manderson]

Good job all OMB - YGB participants in MJCO.
Great job Nate! tournament hot round on Sunday afternoon, 1054 rated.
3 good rounds for BBD and a solid 12th place finish.
4 good rounds for Todd gets the 3rd spot.
And of course congratulations to the Bagonowski slayer.

Hope to see a lot of you at the 2DJC on Saturday.

[okcacehole]

Rusy:

I have a CE Beast, CE Aviar and a Z-Crush for you...let me know next time you are coming to town

[baldguy]

fun weekend, my allergies and all that sun got the best of me but I still managed to cash for the first time in a PDGA event playing MA1. Solid play by several of our group, but Parker stands out... Baggin-owski spotted him 9.5 strokes and Parker didn't need any of em :). Way to go dude!

[okcacehole]

I was having a little fun with this also:

2006 2007

JOSH 257 242 -15

DJ 239 228 -11

TODD 248 230 -18

STEVE W 270 273 +3

JUSTIN 256 243 -13

JACK 241 248 +7

PARKER 246 231 -15

MIKE 256 243 -13

BEN 265 258 -7

PHILLIP 273 246 -27

HEIDI 350 337 -13

JESSICA 345 291 -54

DIEDRE 999 310 -689 :D:D


2DJC is a one day event right?

[EscapeGoat]

Not me...I'll be playing the innagural tournament at Lake Bistineau State Park's new course in Doyline, LA. Sucks that these events are on the same day...they're both awesome courses.





Man, Have FUN!!!!! That course is sweet. Let me know about the next one and I'll try to make it.

[manderson]

2DJC is 2 rounds on Saturday only.

[okcacehole]

Thursday..back at Porter..

the season is closing in

[n8bitner]

Did anyone that signed up on title disc have any issues with some fraudulent charges on their card? Jon Waldron and myself both had some issues with fraud on our debit cards shortly after paying on title disc. :mad:

[baldguy]

titledisc uses PayPal. Titledisc never sees your credit card information. Since eBay bought PayPal a couple years ago, they employ the industry's best internet security when it comes to customer information... I'm not saying that they are necessarily unrelated events, but I am saying it's unlikely. In fact, if you already had an existing PayPal account, your credit card information doesn't even pass over the internet when you pay for a tournament on TitleDisc. Can't get much more secure than that :).

[n8bitner]

Who ever used my card had my card number, address, phone number, but had my incorrect email. They set up a seperate paypal account using my card and put their email address. They also purchased small items from different online stores...gamefly, yahoo:voice, ebags.com, life lock, and click bank. I think they used my card to do an online promotion where they recieve a free product if they sign up for a number of different offers. It sucked pretty bad because I had to call all of these companies to tell them that I did not sign up for any of these offers and when they asked me to confirm the information on the card...They had all of the correct information with the exception of my email address. This person used two seperate email address to sign up for all of this garbage. I have the email address...is there anything I can do with an email address? :confused:

[Thor]

Yes there is actually.. You can send them a nasty email ! Send em an E fist punch to the stomach...

[EscapeGoat]

Send them an email of Chuck Norris. That should fix everything

[baldguy]

if the person used a paypal account to pay for all of that stuff, take it up with them. They'll cancel the fake account and take care of all the charges. As for the email... it depends on what provider they used, but chances are... no. Sounds to me like they got a hold of your info somewhere else, maybe an internet site, but certainly not a reputable one. Your credit card company most likely has identity theft protection of some sort. Attack it from that angle as well as with PayPal and you should be ok. I'm sure I don't have to tell you to change your credit card number and PayPal password (along with your passwords to any other sites that have your credit card info). honestly, the most common way that people steal identities is through password cracking. If you (like most of America) use the same username and password in lots of places, all it takes is for a thief to get it from one insecure site (not necessarily one with personal info) and then try it on hundreds of other sites until he finds one with your personal info. At that point he's got your identity and he's off and running.

Tip: any time you use your credit card online, be absolutely 100% sure that the URL starts with "https://" and not "http://". Also be very careful who you give your info to. Paypal and other payment brokers are good stopgaps to keep yourself insulated, but be sure you're using a good one. One good idea is to find a credit card that will issue temporary auth numbers for specific transactions. These are one-time use credit card numbers that are temporarily tied to your account but are worthless if stolen. If you need to use your card on a site that you're not 100% comfortable with, you use a temporary number.

It sucks that you've been targeted, but these days it seems like it's just a matter of time before we all get it one way or another. You can avoid being an easy target, but if you want to do business online, there's always going to be at least a small degree of risk. I can't tell you who got your info or how, but I can tell you that it wasn't because of TitleDisc. PayPal is your best bet for finding the creep, especially since he used a fake account. At least one of the vendors he used will probably have a shipping address, so if any of them are transactions outside of PayPal's realm, contact their fraud departments. Trust me, online retailers take this sort of thing very seriously.

[Thor]

Whoa .. man thats a lot of stuff there^^. If i had the strengh to read it all im sure i couldnt disagree with any of it, but i have other daily goals to meet today.. ;)

[okcacehole]

Should see you guys at Porter tonight..Have the dentist at 3pm..

Parker, if I get finished early I will give you a ring on my way to Margarita's

[n8bitner]

The only online purchase that I have made with this card is on title disc. This is a fairly new card and I usually only use it for off internet purchases. The email accounts that were used were both through yahoo.

[baldguy]

since the email accounts are through yahoo I doubt there's much you can do on that end :(. I'd contact PayPal for sure and make sure that account gets closed. It sounds like your identity was stolen somewhere other than online... what I find really odd is that if you used the card to pay for the MJCO via paypal, it should have been tied to your account immediately. Paypal doesn't let more than one account use the same card number. It almost sounds like someone got your paypal login somehow and exploited that... hard to say. the only thing I know for sure is that TitleDisc uses PayPal exclusively for its transactions (this might change in the near future). I'd start looking at PayPal.

[n8bitner]

My original paypal account does not have that particular card listed on the account. SOmeone got that card's number and had all of my other personal information to create a seperate paypal account with a different email address. SUX badly...I think what happened is...someone that had my info and my card number, signed up for a free gift promotion that required the purchase from a few different online companies. I just recieved a sports illustrated today that I did not order! SUX bad.

[baldguy]

so did you use your paypal account to pay for the tourney? I'm confused. For what it's worth, I have access to all of the titledisc logs and database, along with the code. I can tell you exactly what happens, step by step, when you use TitleDisc to sign up for an event... and during none of those steps is your credit card number exposed. When you go to enter that information, you're on PayPal.com. PayPal processes your information, including the credit card if you choose not to use the methods already attached to your paypal account. Then PayPal sends the entry to titledisc without any payment information. It's designed that way to protect the consumer from things like this and to protect the vendor from liability. Nothing is perfect, though... so there's a small chance that your info was stolen from PayPal, but it's really unlikely since they base their business on processing online payments and work harder than any other business on the internet to make sure they are as secure as possible.

If you want, I'll be glad to help you figure this out. I want to avoid negative press for TitleDisc, especially if it's not related to titledisc :)

[n8bitner]

Oh I see...I am not positive that it was titledisc but the only thing that I have purchased via the internet was the entry into the tourney. It very well could have been a dumpster diver or someone at a restaurant that had my card information. This has happened to me before I started using Titledisc so it is not necessarily that. The only reason I suspected that someone got my information from the titledisc transaction is because I just assumed that it was stolen via an online transaction.

[n8bitner]

After some much needed collaboration with BBD, I am pleased to say that we figured out that the mishaps was not a product of Titledisc! As a matter of fact, I did not even use the same card on titledisc that had the fraudulent charges! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif whoops...Sorry for the titledisc scare! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Giles]

Doubles at Harmony Hills tonight. Come get you some :p

[steve_parker]

can only play in the morning..... Lewisville Lake at 9:00 has been thrown out there.... unless someone has a better idea that is where Tabor and I will be saturday morning....

(none of the Instant Graemlins seemed appropriate for this post so I will leave this area blank)

[Pizza God]

Hey guys, I found the stolen #11 basket.

I want to compare the welds with the other baskets to be 100% sure before I call the police. I only found out this week even though I had heard rumors about it several months ago.

I thought about confronting the guy and offering a deal, he can pay for the replacement ($340) or we can call the police.

What do you guys think.

I will be out of town this weekend, but will be back on Monday.

[baldguy]

sounds like a fair deal, although I personally would probably just call the police. If you contact him first, he might just deny it then dump the basket at first opportunity. At least if you work with the police, they will investigate and hopefully get the basket back. That said... it might be hard to prove that it's the GB #11... I dunno. Either way you decide to go, let me know if you need help.

[oceanjones]

No Deal! Call the Police! Then post his name and picture so that I don't play with him. If he's in the PDGA (which i highly doubt), make sure he gets a suspension at least.

The only way I would offer him a deal is if he stole it to buy a loaf of bread to feed his baby. :eek: :cool:

[RustyP]

The only way I would offer him a deal is if he stole it to buy a loaf of bread to feed his baby. :eek: :cool:



I wouldn't even give him that...there are a lot of other things babies can eat....like grass for example. Saint Augustine is especially nutritious and it's abundant at Greenbelt! :D

[n8bitner]

He is probably the one who stole my identity too!!!

[okcacehole]

Do not offer a deal to him at all...Call the police if you can prove it, but also read the other thread on here about baskets on ebay. That guy stole the goal w/o doubt and just said he found it at the park - no charges at all, but at least the basket was returned.

Do post the name and I will start a petition right now to get his arse suspended from the PDGA. Already did this once before and he still can't be a member years later

[okcacehole]

can only play in the morning..... Lewisville Lake at 9:00 has been thrown out there.... unless someone has a better idea that is where Tabor and I will be saturday morning....



I should be there at 9am. If something changes let me know Steve.

[l_7_ltrain]

How about " Team Disc Golf R.I.P." as a club name..... Is it taken? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[l_7_ltrain]

Team R.I.P. sounds convincing??!!

[baldguy]

sounds kinda morbid...