A3 Team Play 2006

[DSproAVIAR]

A3's League Team Play starts tonight! I'm not sure what time we're registering for this event, but I'd guess at be there by 5:30. This year the fee per player is $10.
Bill Gilbert? Any other info?

[kwilliamson]

I was just going to mention something about this also.
I think the draft is tonight, and the actual play starts next week.

Who's planning on playing this year?

I'd hope this year we can get people that will plan on playing all year. Its not an absolute requirement that your able to make every week but Bill has integrated some features that promote the teams that everyone show up all season.

Bill if your out there how many people do you have signed up so far?

[scottcwhite]

Yea, I think I'm going to play also. Should be some good competition. One rule stands out to me though:
"Subs will be allowed, only active A3 disc members."
Does this mean you can replace your 3-seed with anyone if your they don't show up? It seems like this could be a little unfair depending on who you choose to substitute. Does the substituition need to be agreed upon by the opposing team perhaps?

The full rules from a3disc.org:


TEAM PLAY 2006

You must be an active A3 Disc club member.
You must supply a valid address, phone#, and email to play to William Gilbert

$10.00 Extra to play

1st place team will get 80% of entry fees
2nd place team will get 15% of entry fees
MVP will get 5% of entry fees. MVP will be voted on by all teams. A list of eligible MVP candidates will be compiled and the TEAM PLAY members will vote on them.

Example: 8 teams of 3 players each paying $10.00 each; payout $240.00.
The club (A3 Disc) will not be supplying any money towards our payout, so only our entry fees will make up the payout.

All Teams WILL NOT be advancing to playoffs!
Draft on 3rd week of league Wednesday May 17th, 2006
Team play starts 4th week, Wednesday May 24th, 2006.

TEAM PLAY RULES
-Start times is 5:45 PM Sharp Wednesday night
-Rescheduling round between opponents is allowed if worked out in advance
-Rounds must (except see above) be played on Wednesday night
-Each team will be supplied with course and TEAM opponent which they play each week or look at the website for information.
-Entire team is not required to play together, nor should they play together. (Group Size). But you must play with your opponent
-Results must be reported to William Gilbert verbally, in writing or via Email to cyferban@aol.com every member of every team should get in the habit of reporting results.
-Teams are allowed to shift the seeding of players via trading of hidden slips of paper on Wednesday night.
-TEAM PLAY will not occur on week of Summer Solstice tournament June 21st, 2006.
-Regular season ending on August 23rd, 2006 approximately, with playoffs to follow starting on August 30th, 2006.
-Permanent replacement of any player is only allowed by majority vote of captains
-All replaced player forfeits his entry fees and any winnings his team might make.
-Standard club rules will apply; on or over road or cart paths, in water, 2- meter rule, lost disc all OB 1-stoke penalty.
-Subs will be allowed, only active A3 disc members.
-Subs will not be allowed in playoffs!
-Points are awarded based on play as outlined later.

[DSproAVIAR]

They could set standards for Subs by league average. Say that today, the highest avg of any 3-seed is 65, and the lowest is 58. So, you could only choose a sub for your 3-seed that has a league average of over 58. Do the same for 2 seeds, say 51-57. So you could pick any 2-seed Sub with an average higher than 51. Make sense?

[kwilliamson]

I read that subs are only able to be used if you have a person that perpetually doesn't show up every week, say misses 4 or 5 weeks in a row. then a sub can be added in his place. Then I think all the teams had to vote on the sub approval.

But then again you could be correct and in that case I would definately say that the opposing team needs to vote on the player.


I did just get an email from Bill. He said that tonight is the last night of sign up. The draft will take place next week and play would start the following week.

[DSproAVIAR]

Geoff Bennett was walking onto the course yesterday to start his league round, and proclaimed "I am guaransheeed an ace today" because he had hit some baskets or something last week. Whatever. So he aced #15 on the original course. Forehand. With a Firebird. And he takes the first A3 ace pot of 06.

[cyferban]

i decided to delay the draft until the 24th in hopes of getting more players to sign up.

Here is what I know so far 8 have paid and signed up. William, Justin, Aaron, Andy, Kevin, Brandon, Nic, & JP.
Verbal commitments from Scott, Daemon, Joe, Jen, Nate, & Ryan. Team play will not happen and your money will be refunded if we cannot reach at least 15 players. Unless we can come up with some other format, i have some ideas i will work them out before next wednesday and discuss them as time allows, or next wednesday.

You must supply a valid address, phone#, and email to play to William Gilbert
$10.00 Extra to play
with only 5 teams i think we are going to have to drop payouts to only paying the winner of Team Play, give me your feedback.
A3 will not be putting any money into the payouts like they have had to in years gone past.
ALL TEAMS WILL NOT BE GOING INTO THE PLAYOFFS!!!
START TIME WILL BE 5:45 PM SHARP. IF YOU SHOW UP AT 5:46 YOU WILL HAVE LOST YOUR MATCH.
Makeup rounds are allowed if planned before 545 PM day of and i am notified of such change.
Rounds must be played on Wednesday night only except see previous.
results must be reported to me. in some form of writing.
no team play week of summer solistice.
Players can be replaced permanently if they miss 3 weeks. replaced players forfeit all entry fees. Team must decide to replace that person, and other teams get to vote on replacement chosen, within reason. What I mean by within reason is you can't block a replacement because you don't like him or such. the replacement must carry a similar average to the player he is replacing. the new player is subject to the $1 sub fee every week or $10 fee to play as if signing up from week 1.
standard club rules must be followed as this will also be your league round.
SUBS will be allowed during regular season, not in the playoffs. permanent replacements are not treated as subs in this situation, subs fees for permanent members stop once the playoffs start.

here are the points descriptions
HOW POINTS will be awarded in 2006, all points are individual and team points.
-2 points for the individual / team for EACH player who fails to show up without announcing his / her intended absence. Failure to show up means not being present at official start time, 5:45 PM notice must be given 24 hours in advance or -2 points will be assigned.
-1 points for the individual / team for each player who fails to show up with 24 hours notice. 2 byes of this rule will be allowed for vacations. Injuries proven (Doctors excuse, crutches) ones can get extensions to this rule if notification is given to William Gilbert.
+2 Head to head victory player / team against an opponent.
+1 for each player / team for ties.
No points will be awarded for members who are not present for team play. If 2 opponents fail to show no points will be awarded and they both risk a -1 or -2 point loss.
+2 Team bonus for a sweep of other team, must be actual head to head victories by all, will not be awarded if 1 opponent does not show up no default sweeps will be accepted.
+5 Bonus for individuals / TEAMS for each member that makes every round of season. Injuries still count as an absence excused or not.

hopefully that explains everything.

Kevin said he would not be present for draft but wants somebody good to draft him. Who knows he might end of a captain.

[cyferban]

Subs can be used anytime but they must be somebody who carries a similar average (within league) to the person they are replacing. no outside league people therefore can be used in this case, sorry but somebodys word that they shoot such is not as good as true averages.
same holds true for permanent replacements. We should all immediately start looking for possible replacement players in case we ever need them. i mean replacement players or subs in case they are needed.
the sub is not the person who must pay the $1 it is the reponsibility of the person or team he is replacing to pay that fee. the $10 fee option can be paid by whoever. keeping a full team is better than a 2 person team, anyday.

Note the extra fees are not meant as a punishment but a simple way to grow the payout. i will not be keeping any of it for running the event or anything like that. simply a way to build the kitty.

[kwilliamson]

Things have changed, and I will be there next week after all.

And my team will be good, I am 1/3 of the defending champions. And you have no idea how many times I had to carry the team last year because Justin wasn't pulling his weight... :D
Just kidding, Justin dominated.


So if 15 people sign up, say 5 teams.
My guess for captains would be
Justin
Daemon
Nic
Nate
Jen/Scott/Kevin (the last team is tough, I don't know everyones averages.)

[scottcwhite]

League averages sorted (by me) for team play from: http://www.a3disc.org/2006/league/index.htm

http://local101dg.com/images/league_scores.jpg

So, it looks like the captains will be:
1. Daemon
2. Justin
3. Scott
4. Ryan M (if this is the Ryan that Bill is talking about, there are two total Ryans)
5. Nate K
6. Kevin (depending on the Ryans)

Also, not sure about which Aaron or which Andy either. I put up both for good measure.