What do you guys think of this????

ARLINGTON 2006
BAG TAG
CHALLENGE

Tags reservations will be available starting November 19th, at 12:00 midnight.

You may reserve your tag via email or phone. Tags will be assigned in the order that reservations were received, beginning with tag # 1. All emails & phone messages will be time and date stamped to insure first come, first served.
Orders will not be accepted before November 19th, 12:00 am.

Tags will be handed out at all upcoming mini tournaments, or can be mailed to you, once payment has been received.

All profits generated from tag sales will be divided between ADGA for course improvements and the end of season Tournament.
The top four places will also receive their tags for the next season free of charge.

It is proposed that the season will run from December 4th through May 28th.

The Tournament will be held on June 3rd and 4th.

Reservations are to be made at:
jeffneal73@earthlink.net
817-797-0211
Please provide your Name and a contact number or email.

Cost of the tags will be:
$ 15.00 for ADGA Members
$ 20.00 for non Members
$ 25.00 Tag & Membership Combo
A copy of the rules will be provided with your tag, or you can request a copy from Jeff Neal at 817-797-0211 or jeffneal73@earthlink.net

Help support your local club.
Gain bragging rights over your competition.
Strive to be #1.

[discgolfdog]

Speaking of supporting your local club, are you going to be playing the VPO this weekend or pro weekend? If not, are you going to help Terry by staffing?

[sandalman]

$ 25.00 Tag & Membership Combo

depends on the membership. $10 membership is only for returning members. new memers are $20, and late renewals are $15.

[my_hero]

$ 25.00 Tag & Membership Combo

depends on the membership. $10 membership is only for returning members. new memers are $20, and late renewals are $15.



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Hey Jeff,
Nothing against you or anything, but before the ADGA offers anything to it's members, especially a discounted membership, you must first discuss it with myself and all the other officers. ( or have me talk to them). When was the last time you were at the Vet for a mini? Come on out and that would be a great time to discuss things like this. As John and I have stated earlier, the club has become bored with tags and only a hand full of people actually use the Z Boaz tags. If this is something you want to do, helping to run mini's would be a great way to get things like this started. I know on Sunday's we could use another TD. Wednesday's will be over at the end of the month. So come on out and sit with a current TD and give them some help!

One more thing that would have come up in any discussions with the officers of the club is that the ADGA is going to scale back the number of events ran at Veterans Park. AS of right now there is the Ice Bowl, A to Z Doubles, Fahrenheit Fling (which might go away), the Club Championships, and then the VPO's. One of the problems we have seen in the last several years is that too many events at the Vet have, in my opinion, decreased the attendance of our other events. So in order to BETTER benefit the club, the fewer events, the larger the turn out for OUR events. Again this is something we could have spoke about before starting something new.

[discgolfdog]

Not meaning to slam you or anything Jeff, But are you even a current member of the ADGA? I appreciate you want to help out, but these things need to be discussed with the club Pres. and it's officers before anything is posted or implemented.

Name Rd1 Rd2 Total
OPEN
John Mauiro 48 48 96
David Rose 51 51 102
Justin Kerr 49 54 103
Dennie Ortega 54 51 105
Chris Pepperling 53 55 108
Danny Reeves 51 57 108
Brad Bishop 56 53 109
Clayton Bethmann 56 55 111
Gene Nobriga 55 56 111
Kenny Glaze 59 57 116
Jeff Davis 58 59 117

Master
Claydog Brumit 51 52 103
Keven Geesa 54 52 106
Pat Brenner 57 51 108

Grand Master
Joe Martin 55 58 113
Skip Maxwell 57 62 119
Red Miller 55 75 130
Ken Cantrell 64 126 190

Advanced
Tim Payne 50 54 104
Charles Cox 54 56 110
David Landis 55 56 111
Keith Machen 53 59 112
Ryan Caines 57 56 113
Jeremy Ellis 57 56 113
Brian Lamoreaux 60 55 115
Dan McGough 57 58 115
Joshua Ottwell 57 58 115
David Kinter 63 54 117
Terry Toolen 57 60 117
PJ Fry 56 61 117
Doug Whitehurst 58 64 122

Advanced Master
Gary Shugart 57 56 113
Kendall Steel 61 54 115

Intermediate
Alex Bacon 61 55 116
Tor Harper 57 62 119
Chris Wren 69 61 130

Recreational
Richard Downs 61 69 130
Rick Whigham 66 66 132
Nelson Pearce 67 72 139

Women
Juli Steel 61 62 123
Tracy Nations 62 63 125

Amatuer Women
Ginetta Chamberlain 67 67 134
Jaura Quattlebaum 71 69 140

Junior
Jacob Nations 106 - 106


These people played the Club Championship. Others who have renewed since then have been to the Sun or wed mini of the past week and Jeff was not one of them.

[my_hero]

I think it's great that someone wants to help raise money for the ADGA, especially an old member who has found his way back home. But yes, it must be cleared with certain people before advertisements are passed around, and tournament dates are scheduled.

[cgflesner]

I think you should add a no challenge turn down clause in the rules for these new tags.

This is the only problem I had with the z-boaz tags. Some people would win the tag on a challenge and not give any challenges to anybody but their playing partners which I found to be unfair. :(

[my_hero]

I think most of us are kind of burned out on tags.

[lauranovice]

Name Rd1 Rd2 Total
Jaura Quattlebaum 71 69 140



Thanks for misspelling my name so no one will know my poor score at the CC. :cool:<< that's actually me in disguise. :D

BTW, I concur. It is great to have someone that wants to help. Please come to the next mini and discuss it wil Terry.

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:D:D:D:D:D

Was it that way when I posted it on the CC thread? I hope not!!!! Sorry Laura!!

[my_hero]

What do you guys think of this????



It has always hurt when i think too hard. :D

It wasnt a flyer or anything that I wanted to have set in stone. Thats why the title was WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? It was just an idea.

I havent been a member of the ADGA for a long time, but I'm going to become a member again. I'm also willing to help out in any way that I can.

I'm willing to help out at the VPO and the Sunday mini's.

I'm not going to play in the VPO but I will help out with the staff stuff. Just let me know what i need to do, or talk with.

I'm not trying to take anything over. I just thought it would be a fun idea to have the bag tags because it would make a casual game of golf fun if you were playing for a lower tag number. But oh well, I guess I was wrong. I wouldnt be the first time!

[discgolfdog]

Welcome back Jeff.

Well, I guess not then.

[sandalman]

jeff, i can see how some of the responses on this thread sounded negative to you. but believe me, the ADGA would welcomenew/returning help with open arms. as you mentioned, the thread is titled "what do you think..." so its was soliciting opinions. the opinionsyou got were a bit overstated, but if you knew some ofthe stuff that has gone on over the last coupla years, you would understand where the apparent overreaction comes from.

i would ask that you take it in stride, and come on back and scope it out to see what makes the most sense for you to do.

see ya soon,

pat

[discgolfdog]

Exactly what Pat said. No offense intended. We welcome you back.

[my_hero]

What would the pros and cons be if we offered ADVANCED divisions for the Pro VPO weekend?

Pros:
gives people a 2nd chance if they suck[/b]ed or couldn't make it to the 1st weeknd
pad the purse a little
in terms of numbers, a *larger* turnout
maintain supertour status for 2006
It's not on OCTOBERFRIZ's weekend...which is why no okies came

cons:
some of the ADV guys may have played OPEN if no other choice.


Input please.

[dannyreeves]

Sounds like a great idea to me. If we did not do it, I would suggest letting the advanced players play Open at a 50% discount, with the stipulation that if they cash, they can not accept.

They do this at other parts of the country and it works well to get some extra money in the purse and gives the advanced guys and cheap way to get some experienced in the Open field.

Either options sounds good, though.

[my_hero]

What would the pros and cons be if we offered ADVANCED divisions for the Pro VPO weekend?

Pros:
gives people a 2nd chance if they suck[/b]ed or couldn't make it to the 1st weeknd
pad the purse a little
in terms of numbers, a *larger* turnout
maintain supertour status for 2006
It's not on OCTOBERFRIZ's weekend...which is why no okies came

cons:
some of the ADV guys may have played OPEN if no other choice.


Input please.







Sounds like a great idea to me. If we did not do it, I would suggest letting the advanced players play Open at a 50% discount, with the stipulation that if they cash, they can not accept.

They do this at other parts of the country and it works well to get some extra money in the purse and gives the advanced guys and cheap way to get some experienced in the Open field.

Either options sounds good, though.






It seems to me that both ideas are a win win situation.

[sandalman]

do it. ADV and Adv Master for Weekend 2.

I want to play in this!!! :cool:Who wants to run a Pro weekend tournament :D:D:D

[my_hero]

:D:D:DNow that wuz funny!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

[okcacehole]

Somewhat like the TX10 finals this year where ADV can play both days?

might be a good idea, but I would have to admit cost was a major factor for this weekend...I know the event was great no matter how many showed, but Tulsa will be holding an A-Tier, SuperTour that was cheaper in MA1 than VPO AM weekend..

I fully stand behind any DFW course/club that is doing something, but I think cost should be looked at if this would happen

[sandalman]

what are you tyalking about? there is no OK event on Nov 4-5.

and VPO is a two dayer.. they're considering expanding what was originally Pro Only Weekend to include Adv fields.

A-Tier Entry Fees:
(Must be current PDGA Member)

Pro FLIGHT ALL Pro Divisions $92.00
Adv. FLIGHT ALL Advanced Divisions $62.00

That is directly from the OO page. The VPO Adv was $60.

Where do you get your numbers from Adam?

[okcacehole]

I wasn't referring to the same weekend either of you - just trying to convey a point on the cost for this past weekend..

Why does a B tier cost more than a A Tier Supertour?

I stated I wasn't attacking., just mentioning the dollar amounts had influence on turnout

No attacks here either....just wondering how you say the OO is less than the VPO AM???? 62 for them and 60 for us. Very small amount more, but more just the same. I was only refering to what you said, which is wrong.

I want to play in this!!! :cool:Who wants to run a Pro weekend tournament :D:D:D



Like I said before, just tell me what I need to do to help out.

Also what I need to do to get my ADGA membership :D

[okcacehole]

Their site would infer the ace pot was included also, but either way $2.00 isn't the point...Terry, I would hope you know this isn't about bashing you in the slightest..I said I support everything the few groups in town do...sorry I didn't make it, I was just putting my thoughts into the pot and trying to help see how this could work if it was on the Pro weekend also

Thats fine Adam. I wish you and some of the regulars from that side of town could have made it this way. I am going to talk to a couple other people this week about Pro weekend.....so we will see how that goes!

[okcacehole]

Thanks...just didn't want my fast typing taken the wrong way :D

after 4 weeks of tournies in a row, even Plano and the Colony were too much for me :o

[my_hero]

The VPO plastic is amazingly cool.

cryZtal buzzz's with a ghost stamp
Z-Avengers with foil hot stamp
Z-Flash with foil hot stamp

[sandalman]

any discraft plastic is cool plastic! thanks for getting that stuff in!

hey, what about this:

dont add extra, seperate divisions... charge full or half price (might matter to some but not others) to adv to play open and adv master to play masters.

BUT... award trophies for the top MA1/MM1 players. the top three in each pool get the trophies. skip made some awesome trophies for am weekend, we could get the same ones. label it VPO Second Chance Weekend.

MA1/MM1 paying a reduced entry (if thats the way ya go) could NOT get paid out in Pro no matter what. of course if they paid full fee they're eligible.

the pro players get bigger prize fund. the am players get in cheap. there's only one pool so nothing gets too complicated. the am players can get a trophy for their efforts. everybody wins.

[my_hero]

That's a great idea as well. Whatever is decided on needs to be advertised until we are <font color="blue"> blue </font>in the face.

[gnduke]

I would recommend that all PRO A-Tiers consider offering ADV divisions if they have the room on the course and merch for payout laying around.

The problem with having the ADV players play in the pro division is that they can't earn points.

The problem with having the ADV players playing in the ADV division is that they don't get to play with the Pros.

I won't have the pager again until the week after Thanksgiving so I'll be there if we have a division.

[sandalman]

adv players playing in open do earn open points dont they? i know we have several players who end up with points in four divisions each year.

gary, would you play only in MM1 seperate division, or would you play in Pro Masters if it was a combined division?

I'll be there Duke. I have been on an agressive recovery program of pills, beer and sleep so should be completely healed, hehe. That makes two at least.

[sandalman]

Whatever is decided on needs to be advertised until we are <font color="blue"> blue </font>in the face.

i hope that means by the end of this week at LATEST! time's a-wasting!

we're talking less than a month here... and waterloo and states are the next two weekend - PRIME advertising grounds.

in this era of high gas costs, its harder to get people to travel ot events... lets give them enouigh time to plan for it.

and what about titledisc??? we need it up there!

[deathbypar]

No attacks here either....just wondering how you say the OO is less than the VPO AM???? 62 for them and 60 for us. Very small amount more, but more just the same. I was only refering to what you said, which is wrong.



The OO is an A tier for Adv. VPO was a B tier.

Something else to consider as to why no one travelled to this event is because it was not on the PDGA Tour page until the week of the tourney. This is why I was not able to make it down.

With that being said I think that it is an excellent idea to make the Nov. date a pro-am. I would try very hard to make it down and bring people along. But again, people who travel to tourneys plan in advance for them. I would have to take vacation time for example. If it is going to happen the sooner we all know the better for the turnout.

[sandalman]

yo death, would you rather:

a) pay a reduced fee to join the open pool with no chance of payout

b) pay a "full" adv fee and play in a seperate adv pool with payout

c) pay a full fee, play in the open pool but also get paid out 50% of the entry fee based on adv results

or

d) pay a partial fee, play in the open pool with no chance of payout, but get a trophy for your adv finish if you're in the top 3

[my_hero]

There seems to be interest.

[sandalman]

yes there indeed does.

so lets make a decision already and get on with it!

[dannyreeves]

Yes, this needs to get decided on quickly. We need to advertise.

[gnduke]

I'll be there to play in MM1 or MA1, I may be there to help on Saturday otherwise.

If I'm not playing on Sunday, I'll be at Crawford.

[my_hero]

Duke,

If this happens, could it be a SuperTour for AM also? Would that be a conflict with the AM supertour in South TX in terms of distance needed between the two supers?


edited....i thought the south TX event was a Super for the AMs

[danniestacey]

The November date is for PRO's. I have no problem with letting the Am's play along as long as it is not at the expence of the Pro turnout. I understand that turnout for both events has dropped, but according to the advertisement 96 spots have been reserved for the Pro divisions. Which means 24 spots are available for added Am Divisions. What about having a Trophy entry fee?

[sandalman]

thats being discussed. we could conceivably go all 27 holes with 5-somes and fit 135, or use tee times, etc, blah blah.

but none of this matters if we dont decide soon!

toolen, whereare you?!? :D

[dannyreeves]

toolen, whereare you?!? :D

[deathbypar]

yo death, would you rather:

a) pay a reduced fee to join the open pool with no chance of payout

b) pay a "full" adv fee and play in a seperate adv pool with payout

c) pay a full fee, play in the open pool but also get paid out 50% of the entry fee based on adv results

or

d) pay a partial fee, play in the open pool with no chance of payout, but get a trophy for your adv finish if you're in the top 3



b

[seewhere]

toolen, whereare you

[jasonc]

thats being discussed. we could conceivably go all 27 holes with 5-somes and fit 135, or use tee times, etc, blah blah.

but none of this matters if we dont decide soon!

toolen, whereare you?!? :D



No 5-somes allowed, this is an A-Tier.........I thought you read the rule book :confused:.

I talked with Terry a little this evening and Ginetta, myself and Terry are all really undecided about this due to many reasons.

#1 is making sure we have room for the maximum amount of Open players. I know that odds are we won't fill the field, but what if we had 45 MA1 players pre-register and then could not acommadate 56 Open players? I really can't see a good side of this situation.

#2 is more of a question for the PDGA. How do we handle the points awarded to the MA1 field? Is it really fair that people that played last weekend get B-Tier points and the others get A-Tier points?

#3 is how do you let 2 different people win the same division in the same tournament that for some reason is held on two different dates . I know that if I won advanced last weekend and recieved a trophy for 1st place in advanced at the VPO I would not be happy that someoneelse was carrying around the same trophy and got more points for it.


So, in conclusion, my opinoin is no MA1 field on the OPEN weekend of VPO. However I don't have a problem with advanced players paying 1/2 the entry fee with the understanding that they cannot accept the $$$$$$$ if they place.



Terry said we were going to discuss it more tomorrow evening and one of us should post the final decision by Thursday AM.

[jasonc]

And Ware is a puss if he decides to go play advanced in Corpus instead of playing an A-Tier in the OPEN division where he belongs. Especially when all he has to do is get his Beer belly into a vehicle leaving Austin, since we Arlintonites will make sure he has a place to stay :D.

[dannyreeves]

Do you mean to tell me that the guy who gives out the most crap to all sandbaggers and any open players who move down is thinking about doing so himself? Interesting...

[sandalman]

#1 is making sure we have room for the maximum amount of Open players. I know that odds are we won't fill the field, but what if we had 45 MA1 players pre-register and then could not acommadate 56 Open players? I really can't see a good side of this situation.

it'll be worse if you fill a pro only with am players paying 50% entry fee! what pros do show up will be [I'm a potty-mouth!] if half the field is paying 50%, and are not up to the calibre besides



#2 is more of a question for the PDGA. How do we handle the points awarded to the MA1 field? Is it really fair that people that played last weekend get B-Tier points and the others get A-Tier points?

so make it a b tier. events do it all the time. and anyway its not a question of fairness.


#3 is how do you let 2 different people win the same division in the same tournament that for some reason is held on two different dates . I know that if I won advanced last weekend and recieved a trophy for 1st place in advanced at the VPO I would not be happy that someoneelse was carrying around the same trophy and got more points for it.

its not the same tourney! its the VPO second chance AM event. make the trophy saysomething else. thats easy. the other way to solve your individual problem is to enter and win :D


i wonder how many adv players would play at half or full price. so far the respondents online have been in favor of paying a regular Adv entry fee and having a seperate division. i do not know if they would show up for a mixed division.

we could go 108 players if we do 27 holes.

[sandalman]

Do you mean to tell me that the guy who gives out the most crap to all sandbaggers and any open players who move down is thinking about doing so himself? Interesting...

wow, he DID drop to 952, which means he can play MA1 agin! i double dare him! :D

[jasonc]

[QUOTE]
it'll be worse if you fill a pro only with am players paying 50% entry fee! what pros do show up will be [I'm a potty-mouth!] if half the field is paying 50%, and are not up to the calibre besides[QUOTE]


I'll show you how you've kind of proved my theory in a moment ;).

[QUOTE]
so make it a b tier. events do it all the time. and anyway its not a question of fairness.[QUOTE]
I think you may have missed the point, but I can tell you that we will not voluntarily make VPO Open weekend a B-tier.



[QUOTE]
i wonder how many adv players would play at half or full price. so far the respondents online have been in favor of paying a regular Adv entry fee and having a seperate division. i do not know if they would show up for a mixed division.

we could go 108 players if we do 27 holes. [QUOTE]


Not a mixed division, just Open, with no payout for those that choose to take the reduced entry fee to have a chance to see how they match up against the Open players that show up. This way you will draw some of the top players in the advanced field who are not out to just win plastic and/or dominate the field, they will be there to compete with players of a greater skill level to see if they are up to that level yet, and hopefully learn a few things along the way. I think this would reduce the amount of players that would actually show up to fill the field and would definately help to fill the Pro purse.


And I am way to tired to go back and try and fix this post with all of the stupid quote boxes, I am not a message genius and really don't care at this point :p.

[dannyreeves]

I really would be surprised if the pro weekend filled. That shouldn't be an issue. Besides, if any pros are worried about the field filling up by ams paying 50% the entry fee, they are allowed to sign up early. Most open players think that is a sin.

P.S.--I was guilty of it too (when I actually played tournaments). /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[sandalman]

hey my pref is to offer full fee, single divisions (open and masters) and give the best am player(s) in the am category a trophy and no plastic.

my second choice is a reduced fee for am who want to play in their respective pro dvisions, no payout for them (although you could certainly still do the trophies)

if your theories are correct, either of these approaches would still be attractive to the am players.

btw, of the two specific responses we had, both said they wanted seperate divisions. so just remember that offering a single division is going against what the market is telling you.

one more thing


reduce the amount of players that would actually show up to fill the field and would definately help to fill the Pro purse

reducing the amount of players that show up helps fill the pro purse??? no wonder the VPO has been such a major success the last couple years :D:D:D

[my_hero]

GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!

What's the decision? :D

BTW, am i the only one who has signed up so far? Prolly so cuz it's not on TitleDISC on it's only 3 weeks away!

thats being discussed. we could conceivably go all 27 holes with 5-somes and fit 135, or use tee times, etc, blah blah.

but none of this matters if we dont decide soon!

toolen, whereare you?!? :D



No 5-somes allowed, this is an A-Tier.........I thought you read the rule book :confused:.

I talked with Terry a little this evening and Ginetta, myself and Terry are all really undecided about this due to many reasons.

#1 is making sure we have room for the maximum amount of Open players. I know that odds are we won't fill the field, but what if we had 45 MA1 players pre-register and then could not acommadate 56 Open players? I really can't see a good side of this situation.

#2 is more of a question for the PDGA. How do we handle the points awarded to the MA1 field? Is it really fair that people that played last weekend get B-Tier points and the others get A-Tier points?

#3 is how do you let 2 different people win the same division in the same tournament that for some reason is held on two different dates . I know that if I won advanced last weekend and recieved a trophy for 1st place in advanced at the VPO I would not be happy that someoneelse was carrying around the same trophy and got more points for it.


So, in conclusion, my opinoin is no MA1 field on the OPEN weekend of VPO. However I don't have a problem with advanced players paying 1/2 the entry fee with the understanding that they cannot accept the $$$$$$$ if they place.



Terry said we were going to discuss it more tomorrow evening and one of us should post the final decision by Thursday AM.



I will post when I am finishing discussing this with everyone involved! I am also waiting to hear back from the PDGA! Tomorrow morning at the earliest. Ben has the info at titledisc and will get it on when he can.

[my_hero]

Well then, i'll sing while we wait........

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Midnight at the oasis
Send your camel to bed
Shadows paintin' our faces
Traces of romance in our heads

Heaven's holdin' a half-moon
Shinin' just for us
Let's slip off to a sand dune, real soon
And kick up a little dust

Come on, Cactus is our friend
He'll point out the way
Come on, 'til the evenin' ends
'Til the evenin' ends

You don't have to answer
There's no need to speak
I'll be your belly dancer, prancer
And you can be my sheik

---- Instrumental Interlude ----

I know your Daddy's a sultan
A nomad known to all
With fifty girls to attend him, they all send him
Jump at his beck and call

But you won't need no harem, honey
When I'm by your side
And you won't need no camel, no no
When I take you for a ride

Come on, Cactus is our friend
He'll point out the way
Come on, 'til the evenin' ends
'Til the evenin' ends

Midnight at the oasis
Send your camel to bed
Got shadows paintin' our faces
And traces of romance in our heads

Oh, come on ...

[sandalman]

look out terry, johns back with the peyote and a hardon :D

[my_hero]

:o :D :p

[cgflesner]

What's the logic in changing this to an Am/Pro?



If nobody showed up for the Am Btier would they show up in three weeks? :confused:

[sandalman]

yes, because they will have had three weeks more notice for this event than they had for the am weekend :D

[my_hero]

What's the logic in changing this to an Am/Pro?




Well for one, it would pad the PRO purse for YOU.

[cgflesner]

I have yet to cash in the VPO, so it would pad it for you. :D

[my_hero]

Go out there that 1st or 2nd round and shoot that -9 that you shot a few weeks ago.....you'll cash for sure then! :D

[sandalman]

isnt this the morning that we are supposed to find out what "they" are doing with the VPO this year?

[my_hero]

isnt this the morning that we are supposed to find out what "they" are doing with the VPO this year?




From Toolen:

Tomorrow morning at the earliest.

[dannyreeves]

I really think we should offer a 50% discount to ams. How many ams have there been play the open division in the past (at 100%)? 3 or 4? If we can at least double that, which I think should be very easy with the discount, it will be the same (likely more) addition to the purse and more ams will have the opportunity to play with open players at a supertour.

Who knows, we may get 15-20 ams wanting to play for the reduced fee. Wouldn't that be nice to throw an extra $1000 into the purse from those entries?

[my_hero]

I hope to God that you are going to play. :)

[dannyreeves]

I will be there as long as there is a "decent" turnout. I am not the type who likes to play a $100 mini.

With that said, as soon as we find out this very important detail, I will be doing my best to get people in the tournament.

[sandalman]

i'm playin masters regardless of the entry fee, and will prolly pay full fee for a chance to cash even if a reduced fee is offered.

but i want a trophy if i am the top finishing MM1 !!! :D

[dannyreeves]

i'm playin masters regardless of the entry fee, and will prolly pay full fee for a chance to cash even if a reduced fee is offered.

but i want a trophy if i am the top finishing MM1 !!! :D



That is cool Pat. That is why I like the reduced entry fee option. It gives you the option.

Plus, I may be able to get some friends from Tulsa and Arkansas to come play if it is cheaper. Wasn't the Friz going on the time as Am weekend?

The more am players who play the open division, the more payout, which helps us keep the VPO as an A-tier event.

[my_hero]

I will be there as long as there is a "decent" turnout. I am not the type who likes to play a $100 mini.



You, as an ADGA OPEN player, should support the hard work of others regardless of field size!

Yes the Friz killed the AM tournout from the North.



The more am players who play the open division, the more payout, which helps us keep the VPO as an A-tier event.



This is why WE NEED to do this.

[sandalman]

of course, having it on titledisc would help me register! :)

of course, having it on titledisc would help me register! :)



Ben has the info.

[sandalman]

i know, but its not up there yet. i think i'm gonna start a new event registration service.