Who Rules The Hole ???

[sandalman]

fellow arlingtonites...

i've been developing an idea for a while, and have talked to some of you about it. now's the time i'd like to go ahead with it if y'all think it might be fun.

here it is:

the object of the game is to have the lowest average score on a hole, over a certain period of time. the club's sunday mini scores will count.

each player pays $20 to enter the game. the best 6 (or some number) of 10 (or some number) are used to compute the averages. hole configurations will be counted together. this all means players can travel to tourneys, have crappy rounds/holes, etc and still have a pretty goodchance of being competitive.

the payout is $1/hole * the number of players. the extra $2 will go to some combo of the club/icebowl/vpo, etc, to be decided.

to eliminate burden on mini-TDs, i would distribute special scorecards participants would use to record their scores. these cards would besigned by the player and nother player on the card, and turned in to me after the round. if i'm not there, the TD would collect them in a seperate pouch that i'll get the following sunday.

i already have the online database set up to run this type of series. i think it would be a lot of fun, and i believe everyone, from am to open, would have some chance of winning a hole.

we'd be playing for bragging rights, and the hole's booty. i'd would like to print hole signs with the current "owner" on it, if i could get the existing files from someone.

if we ran it 4 times a year and had just 20 players, we'd have an extra $160 in the club. that'd make a nice contribution to something. it would also be great for helping playerslearn how to focus even if a few holes dont go so well - the next hole could yield the birdie that wins the series!

i have to figure out what to do for ties, prolly a playoff of some form...

i'm willing and ableto run the wholething, so no impact would be felt, except for collecting the series cards if i'm not at the sunday mini.

so what do you all think? suggestions? thumbs up or down?

[jasonc]

Sounds like a great idea to me Pat, and thanks for taking it on all by yourself. I'm in....I'll take hole 4 and hole 15 please.............both thumbers under 260 so I can actually reach them :o.

[sandalman]

cool. hopefully i was clear though - you're playing for every hole. $1 of the $20 goes to each hole. i'll assume you're just smacking it down early and laying your claim on those two - how manly of you to brag on the two shortest out there :D:D:D

what seems like a good series... best 6 of 10... best 8 of 12... something else?...

[jasonc]

I have to try and lay claim on the shortest holes..........you've seen me play ;). I'd say 8 out of 12 on the series, give everyone a few more chances to screw up.

I really like the idea because on a few of the holes it will give some of the more conservative players a great chance at owning the hole. There are allot of holes that you can go for the 2 but if you don't execute the shot a 4 is a definate possibillity.

Now the question is, seperate grouping for the ladies or no???

[sandalman]

ok, how about 7 of 12. that provides plenty of room for tourny attentendance and other reasons players cant play on a particular sunday.

for tie-breakers, i'm thinking of having all tied players go to the hole and play it repeatedly until a victor emerges. so if six are tied for hole 2, they all play it. if there are three 2's and three 3's, well the 3's are gone and the 2's play again. basically a skins game crossed with groundhog day :) . i expect some players will be tied for more than one hole, leading to scheduling, but we could have some fun after the mini watching all the ties play out.

as far as the ladies are concerned... i'm ok with that. however, lets ask the question about how the ladies are playing compared to our nov/am guys. those guys are gonna have to play against grider, myhero, etc. if there is a seperation between the typical scores, then sure, i'll run a seperate group for them. so what grouping makes the most sense... just womens, or some combo of women/am/nov?

[jasonc]

If you look at who plays nov or am at our minis, i'd say grouping them with most of our ladies would be a fairly even match (except Juli of course :D). Feel it out in the morning and see what kind of opinions you get from the other TD's........I say just them because if not you get into the whole parking lot vote, which can become a cluster F*** in a hurry :eek:.

[my_hero]

I'm in. It sounds like fun to me.

[sandalman]

sounds like a plan. but i wont be ableto be there tomorrow (1/8) because i'm barely recovered from a cold, and today's Poison Ivy Open flat wore me out. plus i need some Q-time with the wife andbaby ;)

i'll be getting some flyers madeup this coming week and will bringthem next sunday.

thanks fo the inputs - it really helps. i think women/nov/am willl prolly be ok. adv/open will certainly be fine

peace all

Hey. That sounds like a fun game. As far as the divisions, is there any kind of record kept on the Sunday minis? No matter...
Having an average score based division would be a good way do divide it up.

Suggestion: Tell everyone up front that the total score will be added and averaged throughout the series. Divisions will be set by average scores:
< -4
-4 to even
+1 to +5
+5 to +10
> +10
This is an example only of course. I didn't put much thought into the score divisions. Set them how you feel fit.
Male and female would make no difference. Advanced women should automatically be pitted against (true) am and novice men.

I don't foresee an astronomical participation, so if anyone wants to throw 12 minis to win $20, or so, on a hole, more power to them.


Oh! BTW, I am in if this happens. (Comin' to jump yer claim Jason :p)

[sandalman]

its gonna be two divisions at most. women and am/novice men in one and everyone else in the other.

its not the round score that matters, its how well you play a hole. for those who take it seriously, there's no more blowing off a crappy round - because you will still want to perform well on the remaining holes. should be excellant mental practice for real tournaments.

IF i get time saturday i will have flyers ready for sunday's mini

I plan on being there Sunday, but could you copy the info to the board, just in case?

I think that would be a fun game. I just hope that between tournaments and NG drill weekends that I can hit 7 of them. What if I can't make 7? Can I just hope to have more birdies with less rounds?

[sandalman]

i'll review the tourney schedule to make sure theres enough room to hit the primary tourneys and still miss a couple minis as well.

maybe we go 6/12 if we have to. but if the mininum is not met, then you cant qualify. otherwise we'dhave people hitting a birdie on the first round then dropping out.

Makes sense if you are doing an average. I was thinking it was best record, so if I played only 4 events and got 4 birdies, that would be 4/7. Someone else plays 10 events and gets 5 birdies and 5 pars, they have 5/7. That person wins. If someone else made only 5 events and had 5 birdies, they are tied but the tie would then look at pars. In this example, the 10 event person has (out of his best 7) 2/7 and the 5 event person has 0/7. Once again the player with the most events won. This way, you can shoot 1 perfect round and you still have to continue playing events in order to have a chance, because anyone else can play all 12 and beat you with only 2 birdies.

If scores are counted on a hole by hole basis rather than a round basis, the more events give an advantage all around. So, if I play all 12 events, I pick my best 7 for each hole from all 12, and not just my best 7 rounds. Is that the way you are doing it?

[sandalman]

yes, that is correct. your best six scores PERHOLE count for your PER HOLE average. its a hole-by-hole contest, nothing to do with the score of the round. ie, you could 5's on holes 1-17 for all 13 minis, and shot 2's on hole 18 all 13. your average on hole 18 is the best 6, so it would be a 2.00. and you would likely win hole 18 :)

yes, the more minis you play the "better" chance you have of getting a lower average. but we need to leave some breathing room for tourneys and a couple just plain "cant-play-this-weekends". so this first time its best 6 of the next 13. we'll see how it goes... i suspect 6 of 12 or even 7 of 12 would work better, but i'm hoping this will encourage a good participation for the inagural series.

[jeterdawg]

I wish I could play more mini's...this sounds like fun.

[sandalman]

results for the first sunday are online (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/) .

we've got 11 players. hopefully we'll get some more signed up - this shouldbe pretty good.

i cant believe pepper birdied 8 AND 12! wassup with that??? birds on those holes are seriously good in this contest! a claydog just missed on hole 1 for the second week in a row, and had a solid look on 3. he's starting to scare me :)

the website allows you to track a lot of stuff, but you'll need your username and password. if you are playing in the Own the Holeseries, please DONT set up a user account - i already did that for you. email me for your username and password

[my_hero]

Pat,

Check those scores. Pepper bogied hole 8 after having the best drive. I also think that the 2 on 12 is incorrect as well. Ask him yourself.

[dannyreeves]

Well, he got Farnham 2's.

[my_hero]

The scores must be shifted one box over. After all, Nolan and Big Hand were the witnesses. :D

[sandalman]

yeah he had a blank hole, but also one extra... wtf... oh well i'll finger it out... thanks!

ps - i'll bet we get more players for the spring-summer series when they all see those new tee signs with the owner's name proudly displayed!

pps - somebody tell me who's holding the files with the teesigns, i'll be very happy to bust out some new ones when this series is concluded.

[my_hero]

Yea.....and ask Pepper about his disc on Hole 5! :D(Cheater!!!!) LMAO! :D

Subject: SCORES

Here are my scores starting from hole one 3,3,3,2,3,3,3,4,2
back nine 3,3,3,2,3,3,2,3,3

birdied 4, 9, 13, 16 bogied 8 with the best drive on the hole, parred the rest...

That should clear things up sorry just coppied them from the score card on sunday, must have messed up...

I think we have already covered this but ADGA needs to establish if we are using the two meter rule or if we are not... I was under the assumption that we were not so I did not even think of getting someone to measure my disc in a tree... I am well under 6 ft and it was only a few inches over my head, if I were under the impression that were using the rule then I would have had Nolen varify that it was safe... The last few tournaments I have played were Maceman events and we had not been using the two meter rule so there for everything was safe... I still think if the PDGA wants to change the rule they need to have the balls to change it, not beat around the bush and say it is up to the TD... I personally like the rule the way it has always been, but I don't like going to one tournament and it being one way then playing the next day and it be the other... It is just going to get complicated and cause to many problems like what happened on Sunday...

[my_hero]

Cool Pep. We love ya even though you almost screwed everything up. :D

Toolen stated after the round that a disc that is above 2m at The Vet is considered O.B.!

[sandalman]

ok, the standings are fixed, thanks pep for clearing it up.

in 2005, the TD must announce that the 2MR is NOT in effect if he wishes to not use it. it is ineffect by default, so if the TD does not mention it, play things as if it is effect.

i should have mentioned it anyway, but every mini i TD at veterans WILL use the 2MR! at least until i have some time to establish a drop zone for 2MR within the 10M on certain holes - then i'll suspend it except for within 10M of the basket.

I know it is a little early to ask about standings were are you going to post them???

[my_hero]

I know it is a little early to ask about standings were are you going to post them???



They are up already. Cheater! (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/) :DJust messing wid cha Pep.

Thanks, looks like Claydog had a good round on Sunday... If he could have stayed away from those bogies would have been a lot better...

Great. I am glad we are keeping the 2m rule.

I checked out your scorecard builder Pat :cool:. I like it a lot. One suggestion, if you don't mind, add the alternate short for 7, Red Rooster pad (7RR to 7S). We slip that one in during a lot of normal rounds just for :Ds. Sweet little putter ace run built by DQ. You have probably seen it as you walk from 6 long to 7, just on the right of the trail.

[sandalman]

good idea, i'll add it. do you know its (approximate) length? 150?

(ps - the website gets really good after you have about 20 or 30 rounds entered and get get your hole-by-hole averages for every hole configuration.)

I'll bet it is no more than 125. But then, I am kind of an optimist!

Thanks for considering it!

[sandalman]

RR7-7S is now available for your scorecarding pleasure.

you are now free to roam around the course.

enjoy your putts.

It looks a lot easier than it is. We played it the other night (night golf) and there was 1 deuce and 2 fours. If you don't get past the trees to the green (aka: tournament roll hill), you are looking at a three at best. Same for a fly-by ace run.

[sandalman]

results for 1/30 are up.

someone please remind Covalt to PUT HIS NAME ON HIS CARD next! :D

I rule # 6 at the moment :D

[my_hero]

D'oh!

I was fortunate enough to birdie 6 long, and 17 long last week, only to BOGEY both of THEM this week! :confused:

Thanks for the tank Pep.

[sandalman]

oh yeah, John i have your disc still in my car. i'll give it back to you when you bring those '04ace race discs :D

[sandalman]

almost forgot... i fixed a couple things on the webpage... at the top of the page theres a little form where you can enter a "history depth" number. its not real interesting yet since we only have 2 rounds in, but you can put in some number and it will show the averages based on that number of rounds.

right now you can enter "1" and see everybody's best round. after 10 weeks, you'll be able to check averages from the best 1 to the best 10 rounds.

No problem, just call me next time you fire up the margarita machine and the grill :D

Sorry guys..don't mean to interupt the discussion.

I need help! Do any of you know Steve Kovar? I need to get a hold of him ASAP. If any of you know how to get a hold of him please let me know ASAP!

Thanks,
Susan Jones

No problem, just call me next time you fire up the margarita machine and the grill :D



Me too! I will see if I can drag Juli out for a 'rita.

[my_hero]

No problem, just call me next time you fire up the margarita machine and the grill :D



Me too! I will see if I can drag Juli out for a 'rita.



No problem!!! It won't be long before we fire that marg. machine up again. In fact, Josh has been over a couple of times. Does he remember being there? :o

[dannyreeves]

No problem, just call me next time you fire up the margarita machine and the grill :D



Me too! I will see if I can drag Juli out for a 'rita.



No problem!!! It won't be long before we fire that marg. machine up again. In fact, Josh has been over a couple of times. Does he remember being there? :o



LMAO!

[sandalman]

results from 2-7 are in the database and online. only four players yesterday cuz of the Big Show. after three weeks, only a handful of holes have a single leader - lots of ties still to work out!

Only 6 holes are currently ruled by one individual... #2 Charles Cox 2.5, #6 Pepper :D2.5, #11 Charles Cox 2.5, #13 pepper :D2.5, #15 Claydog 2.0, and last but not least edging me out by .17 for a 2.33 Myhero #16 :D:D:D

[my_hero]

Thanks for DOING ALL OF THIS (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&seriesid=2&courseid=10&config=group&teenumber=all) Pat!

What about a ties? Let's say Pep and i share hole #6 after 13 weeks :cool:. John played 7 times, Pep played 8 times. If we still equalled each other after 7, then would it be considered halfed, or would Pep's 8th round give him the win?

Also, since it's a relatively small field, how hard would it be to also post how consistant a player is? For Example: My_Hero has played in 3 mini's(long to long) and has shot within 2 strokes all 3 rounds. (51,52,53)

I have to be consistant too if John keeps whooping me by a stroke every week... Sorry I didn't make it this week John, I had what I call work hand... :( The combo of the post hole digger and the chain saw my arm felt like it was going to fall off, it hurt to grip a disc :confused: I am feeling better today but still a little sore... I am out of shape :eek:

[27dogs]

geez are you still going with that :D

[sandalman]

john, all of those stats are available to each player. i'll pm you your username/password so you can log in and check it out.

its pretty cool when you start getting some rounds in there. i have most of my rounds for the last 2 years or so.


for ties, i was thinking we'd run a sudden death "Groundhog Day" playoff. if you're tied on hole 7 for the six best rounds, you'll play hole 7 over and over until someone prevails.

but that might be too much... maybe oughta wait and see.

its definitely getting interesting as more rounds are played.

[my_hero]

Sorry I didn't make it this week John, I had what I call work hand

:confused:


The...hole digger...was...to hurt to grip

:D

Yikes! Uh.....Your wife is suppossed to help you prevent that problem! :p

[my_hero]

john, all of those stats are available to each player. i'll pm you your username/password so you can log in and check it out.



Cool. Thanks Pat. I'll be looking for that PM.

:eek:

[ganzel]

Just wanted to give y'all props for courses well made. Zboaz thoroughly reamed me a new one, then saw Veterans on monday, NICE! i was wondering if you guys might build something a little tougher though, maybe with 36 holes this time, and more trees! yeah definitely more trees. :) Y'all goin have to try our brand new course in Fayetteville, and a must see if you love the game....Horseshoe Canyon!
Feb.25 icebowl 6.5 hrs away....The first time you experience this disc golf nirvana it will change your life.

[jasonc]

i was wondering if you guys might build something a little tougher though, maybe with 36 holes this time, and more trees! yeah definitely more trees. :)



Doing that as you speak, Cedar Hill :D. It's about 25 minutes from Vetaran's and about halfway done. 36 holes and all of the baskets are in the ground. Thanks for the compliments on the DFW courses, I hope to get to your area soon :D.

Jason, we have to round up a couple carloads and take a road trip to Arkansas. I have played Horseshoe Canyon and it is one of the most unique courses you will EVER see.

Why do we have so much crap going on in Texas? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[my_hero]

b/c we have 150 courses :)

[dannyreeves]

oh yeah. forgot.

[Billy_Ho]

If anyone finds a black wallet at Crowley's it's mine!!! :( :(

[jasonc]

What is it with you Okies coming to TX and losing your wallets :confused: First Coda now you .

I'll put the word out to some of the Crowley boys........I hope someone finds it.

[Billy_Ho]

Yeah I know, I heard about Coda losing his wallet too, thanks for the Help Jason! :D

[sandalman]

results from 2/20 are up. only three participants reporting from the 20th... should get back into the thick of things now that the Big Show is over.

see you all sunday.

[my_hero]

Thanks Pat. It looks like Claydog's round on 2/20 was not included. Maybe you haven't received that scorecard yet.

Suggestion: I think a player who has played the hole more times but has the same average as others should be listed first. A good example is Toolen on hole 3 and hole 8.

Results: http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&seriesid=2&courseid=10&config=group&teenumber=all

[sandalman]

good idea john... done.

[my_hero]

You rule.....but can you make emoticons do this?

http://www.imghst.com/uploads/nasdas/myhero2.gif

[sandalman]

no, and just the thought of having blue-thong-man on my computer makes me shudder and cring

[my_hero]

I can't take credit for it. Nix did it. I love it. Too bad we can't use images for sigs on this site anymore. :(

Looks like I forgot to fill out a score card on Sunday :( I would be tied with John on hole 16 again. I could have droped on a couple other holes... If I could remember my scores I would post them but I have been sick all week drinking nyquil makes you sleep good but also clouds the mind... I'll have to catch up another day... I still rule hole 6 and 13 :cool:

[my_hero]

Cheater!!!!!

/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :cool::) :o:D :eek: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D;) :p

[sandalman]

claydog didnt supply his scores either. i'm looking forward to seeing his dueses on #1, #3, and #12!

[my_hero]

No dueces for the doggy on those holes. He did mention that he birdied 15 again.....he's never missed it! :confused:

[sandalman]

results for 3/6/05 are in.

doggy missed 15 finally. but he got 6. his duece is masked by a bogey, but after a few more rounds it'll be a factor.

i own zero holes. this is a stupid contest. whoever thought it up totally sux.

[my_hero]

Cool. Looks like Jeremy has 2'ed #4 everytime, and Toolen has 2'ed #9 everytime. Any aces?

Results: http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&seriesid=2&courseid=10&config=group&teenumber=all

[sandalman]

nada aces. the pot lives @ 1025

Tied on 1,3,4,14,17,18 and Own 6,12 and 13 :DI need to get out there and get a few more rounds in though...

[sandalman]

pep, you need to turn in your card from a few weeks back... i'll put it in if you still have it.

I played with Toolen on a card and he did not give us the little cards to tally up... I was going to post them on here, but I drank to much that night and couldn't remember what I got on all the holes... I know I shot a 2-3 down if I remember correctly...

[sandalman]

hmmm.. not much to go on there buddy. well, you'll prolly get 6 rounds in so no worries.

I'll be there sunday, unfortunatly I can not get off of work for world dubs :(

[esalazar]

where can i find info on area weekly minis etc.!! thanx!!

[jasonc]

Saturday 10 AM Crowley, Sunday 10 AM Veterans park, Sunday 2:30 PM at ZBoaz..........there are allot more going on in DFW but those are the Tarrant area ones.

[esalazar]

i should have specified mid-week tue thru fri. I will be in carrolton on those days!! April 11th or 12th thru the 15th i believe!! looking forward to playing some courses i have yet to play!! I have played lewisville's (lake and bb owens).what other quality courses would you recommend? :Dthanx!! Is there a more appropriate thread foe this type of discussion and info??

[discgolfdog]

You might want to check out the 2 courses at Cedar Hill if you have time to get over that way during the day. Mid week minis generally don't start here until after the time change. The must play courses if you have time are Z-Boaz, Crowley and Veterans. If it hasn't rained in a while, Audoban is a great course, although the baskets stink.

[sandalman]

crowley is at 9:30, not 10AM saturday

[esalazar]

it will be after time change!!! :DMy intention is to play at least 3 different courses, preferably minis!! the closer to carrolton the better!! Anyone have contact info for Mark hazle???

[sandalman]

i dont have his contact info, but he almost always plays the Vet mini at 10AM teeoff sundays.

Check your pm and you will have Marks info...

[cgflesner]

But it never starts till 10:00, we are always waiting for the stragelers.

[discgolfdog]

ok E, after the time change, during the week:
Veterans Park, Wednesday 6:00.
Bear Creek in Grapevine, Wednesday 6:00
Z-Boaz Thursday 6:00 they do a putting competition thingy.
Not sure about Crowley during the week, but I think they do a mini one night.

[esalazar]

swweeet!! thats what i was hoping for!! thanx for the info amigos!!

[sandalman]

results are in! check em (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/)

nice bird on 8 chris!

enter a 3 or a 4 in the "set history depth" field to get a feel for what happens to your average if you drop the worst one or two scores.

Hey that was my bird on 8!!!! Chris got a FOUR!

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who's the captain of this LOOSE SHIP?

[sandalman]

for real? i thought i remembered chris pointing it out to me... i'll check

[sandalman]

well, pretty sure it is in the system correctly. set your history depth to 3 and you'll see TToolen's avg is 2.67 and pep's is, what, lets see... HOLY ***** its <font size=+10> <font color="brown"> 3.67!!! </font> </font>

:D

I birdied it this Sunday :D

[my_hero]

I think the tree birdied it for you! Your drive should have ended up near 9's basket. :o



:p

[sandalman]

should i put an asterisk in his history ? :eek:

terry prolly has the cards frm sunday, so i'll gather up two weeks worth this weekend and get the results uptodate then.

Hey Pat,
If you want we can meet somewhere this week and get you those cards!

Toolen

[sandalman]

cool. my cars in the shop today, and this evening i have eye doc appt... but i'm in south arlington, so lemme know if/when you will be anywhere close this week.

geez, you guys must be eager to see the new averages! i know john and cobalt are :)

[my_hero]

LOL. I'm not so eager, but once you drop a few of my 4's, and one 5, i'll own the World!!!! :Dj/k :D

[discgolfdog]

Not so fast Mr. Jiggly,
I start dropping bad scores THIS Sunday! :eek:

Pat I just moved to Green Oaks and Pleasant Ridge so I am pretty close...PM me your number and I will call you when I get home this evening!!
I also have a new position here at work!!!!!! I will now have SATURDAYS off!!!
and back to 8 til 5!!!!!!
WOOO HOOO

[my_hero]

Not so fast Mr. Jiggly,
I start dropping bad scores THIS Sunday! :eek:



Yes, you should own several holes for a week or two. HOWEVER, once i start dropping some scores, the FAT LADY will be singing. Fa la la la la, la la la la LA.

[dannyreeves]

Sweet, Toolen is back on this side of town.

[sandalman]

thanks terry for bringing the strips over... the results from Mar 20 are in!

sure is starting to get interesting, with a few players already at the cutoff of 6 rounds. their averages are just gonna get better ... My Hero does look like he could own the world (except for #4 - he totally sux on that one :D) Pep is gonna give a run on a few for sure, as is Claydog. most of the rest need to card some good rounds to get in it, but its is still waaaaay possible!

c u all sunday

[my_hero]

I am having problems with hole #4. I just can't seem to find the green.

http://www.htwm.de/hmilker/pinky_brain.jpg

[sandalman]

just go to the soft annie with your putter - more room for error if the hyzer isnt getting it.

[dannyreeves]

John, do you usually throw 2 finger there?

[my_hero]

I do.

I usually manage to get the disc to dive in steep, for a 20' putt.

If the wind is up, i throw lower, and softer, and try to barely beat the group of trees on the left, hope for a skip and a park job.

I'm thinking RHBH hyzer next week with ye 'ole trusty Z-Xtreme.

[dannyreeves]

I do.

I usually manage to get the disc to dive in steep, for a 20' putt.

If the wind is up, i throw lower, and softer, and try to barely beat the group of trees on the left, hope for a skip and a park job.

I'm thinking RHBH hyzer next week with ye 'ole trusty Z-Xtreme.



With the winds we have been getting, I think spike hyzer is the way.

[my_hero]

Current results are here. (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&seriesid=2&courseid=10&config=group&teenumber=all)

[sandalman]

due to a database problem at my service provider, the results page is temporarily down. i talked to them yesterday (saturday) and they told me they should have it ok by monday.

[sandalman]

database fixed!
march 27 scores in!

results here! (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/)

seven players collectively 8 over on hole 2! way to throw! :D

after next week quite a few of us can legitimately start dropping high scores... enter 4 or 5 in the histroy depth field to get feel for where you stand... the default is currently set at 6.

[sandalman]

ok folks, you asked for it (a loooong time ago), now you got it...

after going to the results page, click the "show hole details" link near the top of the page.

it can take a few seconds to load.

talk about airing some dirty laundrey!!! :D:( :o:p

[sandalman]

okie dokie, results for 04/03/05 are in.

read em and weep

ps i suk

[my_hero]

http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&seriesid=2&courseid=10&config=group&teenumber=all



okie dokie, results for 04/03/05 are in.

read em and weep

ps i suk



No weeping here....unless of course you are talking about how poorly i have played 4,5,&10. Three birdie holes that i have had trouble on ever since this silly "Who owns the hole" began. I think you jinxed me Pat. :D

Team Xerox (Claydog and Myself) own quite a few holes. :D

[sandalman]

with only two chances remaining, lets take a look at who's leading and who's got a chance...

hole 1: with six 3's MyHero is in charge. claydog could catch him, but he needs two 3's and will be in San Saba this weekend. looks like John will own hole 1.

hole 2: claydog three 2's give him the lead, biut with only two 3's to back it up, he's on shaky ground. John could pass him with a single 2 this weekend.

hole 3: claydog and terry are in the drivers seat with five 3's terry has the advantage sonce the dog is AWOL this weekend. there's a pack with four 3's that have a chance to tie it up also.

hole 4: keith leads, but with fewer 2's than either jeremy or claydog. pep could muscle his way into it by closing the series strong.

hole 5: with two 3's backing up four 2's, covalt looks like he has already won this prime piece of real estate! no one else has morethan a single 2.

hole 6: john has control at the moment with a single 2 supported by five 3's. claydog 2 is wasted due to lack of 3's. charles' and pep's 2s could bring them into a tie if they 3 out the season. covalt and jeremy need a 2 to get in it.

hole 7: a pair of dueces has john in the lead, but covalt's got a pair also. if david grabs a single 3, he'll tie john. a duece by wither could put it away.

hole 8: very interesting situation here. john leads with a couple 2's, but still needs a 3 for his sixth round. toolen has a 2, so he'll need another to make a run. claydog's pair of dueces is gonna be wasted - he's only got two 3's supporting them, and has only one more chance. chris also has a bird, but with only a pair of 3's cant catch the leader.

hole 9: what can i say? steamboat has a perfect 2.00 over his best six tries! john and david could catch him is they finish with two more birds.

hole 10: claydog leads on average with three 2's and three 3's. one more 3 will bring covalt even, as he also has a menage a bird.

hole 11: jeremy, john and terry are in race with a pair of 2's. claydog needs a 3 to make his bird pair count. and if charles or pep add a 2 to their tally, they could get right into it.

hole 12: chris's single bird plus the rest 3's give him the lead. john and terry have a bird each, but need to close on 3's to make it count.

hole 13: pep's pair of deuces looks pretty strong. john's got a single 2 and the only realistic chance of catching him.

hole 14: cox leads with five 3's... john also has five and is looking for one more to drop a 4 and tie. a handful chase with four 3's. this one looks like a playoff getting ready to happen.

hole 15: myhero's clean with six 2's. but sandalman and claydog are close behind with five each.

hole 16: john's trio of 2's has him leading, but with three of his own, covalt only needs a single 3 to tie.

hole 17: john looks good here also with two birds backed by four 3's. david, claydog, or charles need another 2 to make it interesting.

hole 18: pep has control with a duecee against five 3's, but dont count out jeremy... his duece is hidden by a bogey. if he can just once more this one will be tied.

[my_hero]

Wow Pat. Nice work. Thanks for the info. Now back to our regularly scheduled program:

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[sandalman]

ooops, posted this on the wrong thread... here it is in its proper place:


hole 1: MyHero OWNS THE HOLE! claydog has four with one try to go. no one can catch john. four of six is the best we can do??? the hole emabarassed the entire field (except john) on this series!

hole 2: John's duece today gives him a narrow lead. Claydog's triple-bird is hidden by a 4 thats hanging around. John can seal it with a birdie on the last round. if he misses, Claydog wins with a 2 and ties with a 3.

hole 3: Claydog, John and Terry dueling with five 3's apiece. ya gotta believe at least one will par next sunday, and hold of a the pack with four 3's. this one is a must par next sunday!

hole 4: the pack missed a chance to tie Claydog and Jeremy, who are even with four 2's. Keith and Chris need birds next week to have a prayer.

hole 5: DavidCovalt OWNS THE HOLE! no one is close to his four 2's. nice shooting, KC!

hole 6: MyHero is leading, but Pep's 2 is well-hidden by a double-bogey. a 3 by Pep next week and he ties it up.. but John can ice it with a second bird. Jeremy and Toolen could get into it with a bird.

hole 7: Covalt and John control this one with a pair of dueces each. Nobody can catch them, its their show.

hole 8: JohnM OWNS THE HOLE! with a bird today he puts this one away. Claydog has two birds, but even if he adds another next week, he cant get rid of an extra 4. good job MyHero!

hole 9: Steamboat's clean birdie slate control number 9. David and John are chasing with five, so they've gotta delivery next week and hope TT settles for a par.

hole 10: its between Claydog and KC, each with triple dueces backed by 3's. Jeremy's pair is wasted by one too many bogeys.

hole 11: Jeremy and John put themselves in the drivers seat with birdies today! they've got three each, and are backed by 3's. Toolen and Claydog are chasing with a pair.

hole 12: Pep's looking good in the lead, but MyHero's bird is being hidden by a 4. if John 3's the final week, he'll tie Pep. of course a duece by Pep and its over. Claydog and Sandalman could get in with birds. Toolen's bird is wasted by an extra bogey.

hole 13: very interesting... John and Pep appear tied, but John has only one duece against Pep's pair. Chris can make that second one count with just a par to finish. John will need another bird to force groundhog day.

hole 14: this one went from looking like a certain tie to looking like MyHero's gonna expand his empire. Charles is the only hope - he needs a 3.

hole 15: Sandalman misses his chance to record a clean birdie slate. but he and Claydog have one chance left to match John's six birds.

hole 16: KC and MyHero have three birds each and no one can catch them. Keith's pair is gonna be wasted due to an extra bogey.

hole 17: once again, John is in control. his pair of birds is holding up nicely. Claydogand Covalt are in pursuit, and need another bird to catch.

hole 18: Jeremy missedhis chance to make his single count today, so Pep's lone bird gives him the lead. Jeremy gets one more try. Covalt, MyHero, Cox and Toolen could get into it with just one bird.

looks like a lot will be decided on the last week. there will be a few ties, but not as many as i expected. congrats to John and David for closing a few out early, and good luck to everybody next week on their final chances - make 'em count!

[my_hero]

Results with one week to go (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&amp;courseid=10&amp;seriesid =2&amp;prefix=&amp;suffix=&amp;teenumber=all&amp;startdate=2005-1-23&amp;enddate=2005-4-17&amp;submit=&amp;config=group)

hole 1: MyHero OWNS THE HOLE! claydog has four with one try to go. no one can catch john. four of six is the best we can do??? the hole emabarassed the entire field (except john) on this series!
<font color="red"> Thank You. </font>

hole 2: John's duece today gives him a narrow lead. Claydog's triple-bird is hidden by a 4 thats hanging around. John can seal it with a birdie on the last round. if he misses, Claydog wins with a 2 and ties with a 3.
<font color="red"> This was kind of unfair. Too many different variations of the hole. It really just depended on how many times you got to play the "real" hole #2 </font>

hole 3: Claydog, John and Terry dueling with five 3's apiece. ya gotta believe at least one will par next sunday, and hold of a the pack with four 3's. this one is a must par next sunday!
<font color="red"> This hole should be shared. Not a very good hole if you are looking to pick up strokes. A very good hole to lose strokes on. </font>

hole 4: the pack missed a chance to tie Claydog and Jeremy, who are even with four 2's. Keith and Chris need birds next week to have a prayer.
<font color="red"> Simply embarrassing. I actually used to birdie it quite frequently. Don't know what happened. </font>

hole 5: DavidCovalt OWNS THE HOLE! no one is close to his four 2's. nice shooting, KC!
<font color="red"> Same as above. Simply embarrassing. I actually used to birdie it quite frequently. Don't know what happened. </font>

hole 6: MyHero is leading, but Pep's 2 is well-hidden by a double-bogey. a 3 by Pep next week and he ties it up.. but John can ice it with a second bird. Jeremy and Toolen could get into it with a bird.
<font color="red"> My only bogey on this hole came from a 15' birdie putt that went through the chains, and rolled down the hill below the short pin. Wasn't too happy about that. </font>

hole 7: Covalt and John control this one with a pair of dueces each. Nobody can catch them, its their show.
<font color="red"> I'm also embarrassed to admit that i missed a putt from on top of the QuattleWall yesterday. Just glad it didn't roll. </font>

hole 8: JohnM OWNS THE HOLE! with a bird today he puts this one away. Claydog has two birds, but even if he adds another next week, he cant get rid of an extra 4. good job MyHero!
<font color="red"> Thank You </font>

hole 9: Steamboat's clean birdie slate control number 9. David and John are chasing with five, so they've gotta delivery next week and hope TT settles for a par.
<font color="red"> All we need is a birdie next week to share. It doesn't matter what Toolen takes, right? </font>

hole 10: its between Claydog and KC, each with triple dueces backed by 3's. Jeremy's pair is wasted by one too many bogeys.
<font color="red"> Simply embarrassing. I actually used to birdie it quite frequently. Don't know what happened. </font>

hole 11: Jeremy and John put themselves in the drivers seat with birdies today! they've got three each, and are backed by 3's. Toolen and Claydog are chasing with a pair.
<font color="red"> Can't Jeremy just let me "own" one hole? :D</font>

hole 12: Pep's looking good in the lead, but MyHero's bird is being hidden by a 4. if John 3's the final week, he'll tie Pep. of course a duece by Pep and its over. Claydog and Sandalman could get in with birds. Toolen's bird is wasted by an extra bogey.
<font color="red"> This hole should be shared by more golfers. </font>

hole 13: very interesting... John and Pep appear tied, but John has only one duece against Pep's pair. Chris can make that second one count with just a par to finish. John will need another bird to force groundhog day.
<font color="red"> A few weeks ago i tried to throw an annie in some strong wind to the long bucket. The disc surprized me by turning over, and rolling all the way to the pin. A 15 footer, and i missed it. Shouldn't have been there anyway. Didn't deserve it. </font>

hole 14: this one went from looking like a certain tie to looking like MyHero's gonna expand his empire. Charles is the only hope - he needs a 3.
<font color="red"> Should be shared by more golfers as well. </font>

hole 15: Sandalman misses his chance to record a clean birdie slate. but he and Claydog have one chance left to match John's six birds.
<font color="red"> I did my best here. The ball is in y'alls court now for the tie. </font>

hole 16: KC and MyHero have three birds each and no one can catch them. Keith's pair is gonna be wasted due to an extra bogey.
<font color="red"> David, can't you let me "own" just one hole! :D</font>

hole 17: once again, John is in control. his pair of birds is holding up nicely. Claydogand Covalt are in pursuit, and need another bird to catch.
<font color="red"> Doing the Claydog and DC par or bogey dance right now. Think it will work? </font>

hole 18: Jeremy missedhis chance to make his single count today, so Pep's lone bird gives him the lead. Jeremy gets one more try. Covalt, MyHero, Cox and Toolen could get into it with just one bird.
<font color="red"> Had a 20' birdie putt spit two weeks ago. Looks like i may surrender this one to my sidekick Pep. </font>

looks like a lot will be decided on the last week. there will be a few ties, but not as many as i expected. congrats to John and David for closing a few out early, and good luck to everybody next week on their final chances - make 'em count!
<font color="red"> Thank You </font>




Results with one week to go. (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&amp;courseid=10&amp;seriesid =2&amp;prefix=&amp;suffix=&amp;teenumber=all&amp;startdate=2005-1-23&amp;enddate=2005-4-17&amp;submit=&amp;config=group)





http://www.raw.at/galerie/images/comix/pinky_and_brain.gif

[esalazar]

I will be in carrolton on those days!! April 11th or 12th thru the 15th i believe!!



Unfortunate change of plans!! those bastages are sending me to houston instead!!!

[my_hero]

Sorry to hear that. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[esalazar]

i know , i was ******!!! those bastages!! i had everything lined out!! :confused:

[sandalman]

ok, here are the standings after 13 weeks:

Hole 1: OWNED - John
Hole 2: TIED - Claydog and John
Hole 3: TIED - Claydog and John
Hole 4: TIED - Claydog and Jeremy
Hole 5: OWNED - David
Hole 6: OWNED - John
Hole 7: TIED - David and John
Hole 8: OWNED - John
Hole 9: OWNED - Terry
Hole 10: OWNED - David
Hole 11: OWNED - John
Hole 12: TIED - Chris and John
Hole 13: TIED - Chris and John
Hole 14: TIED - Charles and John
Hole 15: TIED - Claydog and John
Hole 16: TIED - David and John
Hole 17: OWNED - John
Hole 18: TIED - Jeremy, Chris, and John

john, you are boring! :D plus, you suk on hole 4! :D

hmmm... 10 ties against 8 wins in regulation.

CONGRATS TO ALL WINNERS SO FAR!

we need to plan Groundhog's Day. i was thinking next sunday, but would like some input - given that a certain individual is in most of the ties, GHD could take some serious time.

[sandalman]

Next Series: May 1 - July 3. best 5 out of 10 possible.

conflicting events are few: Waco Pro, May 8; Waco Am, June 12; DFW FD#10, May 22; COTO May 15


Fall Series (Tentative) July 24 - October 9. best 6 of 12 possible

conflicting events include both Pro and Am worlds, Games of Texas, Mr. Jims, and Oktoberfest.

lemme know your thoughts.... i wanna put out flyters for Series #2 for next sunday. the grapevine says that series #2 could attract a bunch of new players... i wanna give them good notice that competition will start May 1.

Missed all ya'll greedy bastages today in weatherford :cool:

Any aces?

Well, John, you own or share 14 holes. I win one hole!!!! Woo Hoo......not too many 2.0's out there. I needed 8 yesterday, but got cut down with all that wind.

[my_hero]

I think we should split the cash if the hole is shared. If everyone is okay with that, it would be the easiest, quickest, and fairest thing to do. What does everyone think?

Toolen, i just wanted one hole. Why couldn't you just let me have 1 freaking hole! :D

[sandalman]

ok boys and squirrels... Series II is underway!

results are here (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/)

obviously too early tonmake much of anything from the standings, but somthings are different

myhero's only in the running for 11 holes and only leads outright on one!

and somethings are the same:

he still sux on hole 4!

:D

[my_hero]

Wow. Great job getting those results posted so quickly. I really must suck at hole 4. Bogey free -8, and no bird on 4. The course record -12 also includes no bird on 4. WTF? :confused:

It's time to get back to the plan................

http://www.richcompany.com/images/isamples/pinky-pw.gif

I own three holes :DI had eight birdies as well but three bogies to go with them :confused: Nice bogie free yesterday, need to keep that up this weekend :DI am going to play a few rounds out at the creek this week to get ready for Waco, I'll give you a shout...

[my_hero]

Would y'all please let me "own" just 1 freaking hole!!!! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

starting that already?!?!?! Hey I only owned one hole. Can't you just let me own 2, John?!?!?!?!?!? :cool:

[my_hero]

Well i think i only "owned" 4 holes, but co-owned 10 others for a total of 14. Boouuuuuuuoom!

Yea Whatever. I owed one hole a whopping $10!! and you got how much?!?!?!?!?!? $93 :cool:

[my_hero]

:o

[sandalman]

hey be careful, terry. the IRS is monitoring this thread! :eek: (or at least Amy is :D)

[sandalman]

sorry for the delay with the numbers, my friends. my hosting service is pizzing me off. they need about two minutes to fix my database problem (they've done that several times previously) but for some reason we're at a day and a half and counting this time :mad:

[sandalman]

ok, all fixed, and week 2 results are up. early results show:

seven-way tie - hole 13
five-way tie - holes 6, 15
four-way tie - holes 3, 9
three-way tie - holes 4, 5, 10
two-way tie - holes 1, 2, 11, 16

outright leads on:
7 - chris
8 - david
12 - chris
14 - john
17 - chris
18 - pat

:cool:

[sandalman]

results for week three are up. more holes are showing up as outright leads, that will change in a few weeks when we start dropping rounds.

current scoop:

five way tie - hole 3
four way tie - hole 15
three way tie - holes 6, 9, 11
two way tie - holes 5, 10, 13, 17

outright leads on:
1 - john
2 - john
4 - david
7 - david
8 - david
12 - chris
14 - john
16 - keith
18 - pat

John,
Can't you let me win just one hole?!?!?!?!?! :cool:

[my_hero]

John,
Can't you let me win just one hole?!?!?!?!?! :cool:





I'm just asking for ONE freaking hole!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D

[my_hero]

PB,

So have you gone back and figured out what your -8 was rated yesterday? Is it even possible to figure out?

My last 4 mini's at the Vet have weighed in nicely at -7, -6, -8, and -7.

Boom!

BRAGGER :D:cool:

[sandalman]

its totally possible to calculate, sure... but i didnt do it. some data points other than just the Rule the Hole players would be good.

Kennedy was at -4? what were some of the other open players' scores? let me know and i'll throw it into my ratings calculator.

i was actually thinking of doing something like weekly ratings... might be kinda fun and informative.

[my_hero]

You -8
Me -7
Kennedy -4
Jendel -4
Mace -2
Pepper +2 ( :D)

[sandalman]

well, kennedy and hicks are not current, so i assumed kennedy is a 970 and hicks is a 960.

also, its hard to calc how many ratings points per stroke to use. according to the rounds numbers, it should be 6.41. but the Vet usually plays about 9, especially with so many holes in the short position.

covalt's 896 rating is lower than he plays, but ortega's 941 is higher than he plays. so thats prolly a wash.

i calc'd ratings using both 6.41 and 9 for the ratings per stroke:

<table border="1"><tr><td> Player</td><td>PDGA#</td><td>Rating</td><td>Score</td><td>6.41 pts per stroke</td><td>9 pts per stroke
</td></tr><tr><td>Geesa</td><td>13542</td><td>934</td><td>54</td><td>931</td><td>928
</td></tr><tr><td>Brumit</td><td>10293</td><td>921</td><td>54</td><td>931</td><td>928
</td></tr><tr><td>Maiuro</td><td>10019</td><td>974</td><td>47</td><td>976</td><td>991
</td></tr><tr><td>Covalt</td><td>24147</td><td>896</td><td>49</td><td>963</td><td>973
</td></tr><tr><td>Pepper</td><td>15024</td><td>958</td><td>56</td><td>918</td><td>910
</td></tr><tr><td>Cox</td><td>18539</td><td>931</td><td>56</td><td>918</td><td>910
</td></tr><tr><td>Kennedy</td><td></td><td>970</td><td>50</td><td>957</td><td>964
</td></tr><tr><td>Hicks</td><td></td><td>960</td><td>54</td><td>931</td><td>928
</td></tr><tr><td>Quattlebaum</td><td>18242</td><td>932</td><td>51</td><td>950</td><td>955
</td></tr><tr><td>Toolen</td><td>10774</td><td>920</td><td>54</td><td>931</td><td>928
</td></tr><tr><td>Brenner</td><td>10403</td><td>923</td><td>46</td><td>982</td><td>1000
</td></tr><tr><td>Jendel</td><td>6970</td><td>985</td><td>50</td><td>957</td><td>964
</td></tr><tr><td>Mace</td><td>7477</td><td>939</td><td>52</td><td>944</td><td>946
</td></tr><tr><td>Steel</td><td>25818</td><td>876</td><td>60</td><td>893</td><td>874
</td></tr><tr><td>Ortega</td><td>14300</td><td>941</td><td>63</td><td>873</td><td>847
</td></tr><tr><td>Rose</td><td>19240</td><td>951</td><td>50</td><td>957</td><td>964 </tr></td></table>

higher ratings for kennedy and hicks would raise the overall round ratings, of course.

[seewhere]

appears Ortega is still playing like he did in waco :D

[my_hero]

Yeppers.....there is no way a -8 is a 982, or a -7 is 976, so it must be closer to 9 points per stroke. Regardless, nice shooting!

[sandalman]

thanks. it was fun. definitely a result of hitting putts!

and i suspect kennedy/hicks are higher than 970/960. i'm thinking -8 was 995-1005 or so. but its still not as good as your recent backtobacktobacktobacktoback streak!

and it was ALL DISCRAFT in open and masters!!!

****, you guys had to post it... I drink a whold bottle of jack on Saturday night and still have the balls to come out and play for the ace on Sun and you have to post my worst score of the year... :D

[my_hero]

That's what you get for slapping me with a 930 rated round at the PIO.

Well, I'm glad I am still in on a few holes at the beginning. Ya'll have fun this weekend. I was unable to beg, borrow or steal a partner. Looks like I'll come and cheer you on a little though. Good luck to you all,

[dannyreeves]

I was unable to beg, borrow or steal a partner.



What a surprise!

I was unable to beg, borrow or steal a partner.



What a surprise!



Take it outside...

Yeppers, they say reputations and mistakes are the hardest things to get around. Guess I'll ponder all of mine in a drunken stupor. ;)

[my_hero]

Too bad Keith Machen and Rick W. didn't play A-Z. We could have used the final round for the averages :D

I think that would have been disastrous for me thanks.

[27dogs]

congrats to clay and pat for a nice comeback at a to z. gary said you guys shot lights out this weekend. and to don q. for the ace pot he got also. as kendall would say good job fellers. ;)

[sandalman]

thanks frank! we shot so-so two rounds and decent one round.. and out of our minds the last round! gary and jack played solid the whole time - we were still tied with two to go. it was epic.

[27dogs]

sorry actually that's what i meant was that last round in particular.

[danniestacey]

Excuse me for busting in on your alls thread, but are any of you guys coming up to Norman for the Pro/Am this weekend. It would great to see some DFW guys come this was for a change. :)

[my_hero]

If you promise to take another triple circle 9 :o BTW, you are suppossed to save one of those for me. :D

[danniestacey]

I'll save one for you. So does that me you are coming or what?

[my_hero]

This weekend? As in Memorial Day weekend? I think i'll just sit back and remember the days of when i could do whatever i wanted when i wanted while my wife trys to pull off the garage sale of the century. :( :confused:

Man that sound like fun... I'll check around and see if anyone wants to travel up that way...

[danniestacey]

Hope to see you guys up here. Call me if do so I can make housing arrangements.

Sorry Daniel, can't make it this weekend... Laura is heading to Mexico for school for a couple weeks in the next few so I have to lay low for a couple of weeks until she stops draining my account with tuition... I will hopefully see you guys soon though.

[my_hero]

Pepper and Toolen birdied some key holes today. Looking forward to this update.

[sandalman]

so am i ... and my ISP is looking forward to my boot up its a[/b]ss... 2 1/2 hours ago they told me the database would be fixed in 30 minutes.... on the phone now.... the bastages!

[sandalman]

and cox and machen co-share this week's Weak of the Week award for declining to turn in their "crappy" rounds.

[my_hero]

If you had 1 birdie in the round then it's worth it to turn the card in.

[sandalman]

exactly. and if you had a 3 on 1,3,12,14 its worth it!

[sandalman]

okie dokie, results for week four (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&amp;seriesid=3&amp;courseid= 10&amp;config=group&amp;teenumber=all) are up.

next week some players will logtheir fifth round. the week after is Waco Ams, so the pro players will catch up to the ams that week. we're a couple weeks away from the noose tightening, but here's what things look like now:

six way tie - hole 8
four way tie - hole 3
three way tie - holes 9,15
two way tie - holes 2,5,6,11,17

outright leads on:
1 - john
4 - david
7 - david
10 - john
12 - chris
13 - chris
14 - john
16 - keith
18 - pat

hmmm... is john losing his grip??? :eek:

I love this game, Yeah!

Hey, are we using team golf rounds?

HuH, HuH?

That would add a round for everyone who is in there.

HuH, HuH.

and I'm thinking, yeah, that would help me.

probably on a couple holes. HuH, HuH.

[sandalman]

nope. cant use team golf rounds. situational objectives of the two competitions would too often be in opposition.

[27dogs]

pat that fella just ain't right. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Lovely Frank. HuH, HUH.

OK. I have issues.

OK, I guess I need to clariy a few of those.

The Very Next Post Which Doesn't Correspond With A Peacefull And Respectful Future Will Result In Exactly What You Expect.

That should be clear.

reap what you sow, and all that.

I have no problem with the price. I even have a listed phone for the calls.

this is not a test.

Aside from that, don't use so many big words, hehe

[sandalman]

yes, that was crafted in excrutiating detail, with the sole purpose of making your head explode! :D

u da man

The expectations of the massess have been raised to proportions which you may not be able to keep up wiith. Unfortionatlely, hehe, I have a very large drunken vocabulary. Ha Ha.

[my_hero]

I don't understand any of this jibberjabber. I must have spent too much time in a certain area. :confused:

[27dogs]

actually i was mocking kendall i'm not sure what kent is up to. :eek:

pat that fella just ain't right. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Yu got it all wrong Frank. It goes:
"how you fellas doin'" and
"That boy just ain't right"

If yur gonna quote me, git it right :p

And I am still gonna make you wait 'till the last round to hear it :D

The expectations of the massess have been raised to proportions which you may not be able to keep up wiith. Unfortionatlely, hehe, I have a very large drunken vocabulary. Ha Ha.



Tell the truth. You used Word spell check for this. :cool::D

Lies, all lies. I feel certain that I will be vindicated of all these charges once all the facts have been revealed.

Case in point, "unfortunatlely", my fingers were too thick to actually spell "unfortunately" correctly. I'm through with this witness your honor. ;)

[27dogs]

making me wait till the last hole just ain't right :D

[my_hero]

hmmm... is john losing his grip??? :eek:




I wouldn't count me out just yet. I either own, or co-own 10 holes now, and am within striking distance on 6 of the 8 other holes. :D

Will y'all please let me own just 1 freaking hole? :D

[sandalman]

maybe true, but if it ended right now, your earnings would drop by 33% from last series! :eek:

[my_hero]

If it ended right now we would all lose due to not meeting the minimum rounds required to earn $100 :)

Click here if you want to watch an Empire grow! (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php?playerid=1&amp;seriesid=3&amp;courseid= 10&amp;config=group&amp;teenumber=all) :D

[sandalman]

ooo... good point :)

I guess I missed the rules meeting. What minimum requirements?

[sandalman]

five rounds is the minimum required to qualify. we use the best five scores for each if more than five are turned in.

[my_hero]

I guess I missed the rules meeting. What minimum requirements?



YOU missed it? We must have been talking about time spent in the motor garage! :o

That is unfair :mad: U no aye doent du thaat thaat ofin. Doent evin hav u kar.

[sandalman]

week five is up! (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf)

with five weeks in, it time to start making those hidden birides count!

five way tie - hole 12
four way tie - hole 8
three way tie - holes 3, 9
two way tie - hole 7

outright leads on:
1 - john (this one wont hold)
2 - charles (this one wont either)
4 - david (can anyone believe john is in second here?)
5 - john (david's mastery of hole 5 could tie john easily)
6 - claydog (looks like a lock if it stays long)
10 - charles (won't hold. charles need to turn in some cards for once!)
11 - john
13 - chris (also close to a lock)
14 - john (unless it goes back short, johns in good shape)
15 - john (not gonna hold)
16 - pat
17 - john
18 - charles (he's not really leading. he just refuses to turn in cards)

next week is Waco AM. terry will have strips... please return scores to him after the round.

PS - John and Pep... what's UP?!? you boys need to get some lead in your pencils! you fill out scorecards like you're sipping tea or something :D come on, press a little harder! :D

[27dogs]

ya and talk dirty to. :D

[sandalman]

try setting the history depth to 3 or 4... thats probably a good indication of the true pace. john's grip is definitely slipping! :D

[my_hero]

john's grip is definitely slipping!



Slipping!?

I haven't shot worse than -5 the last 5 WEEKS! You guys are just getting birds on ridiculous holes. :DGood job though. :p

[sandalman]

which birds have been ridiculous?

i think you are worried! :eek:

[my_hero]

Like 18's short pin, and 16's long pin. :D

I'm always worried. No new news there. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[sandalman]

oh, you mean the ridiculously easy ones :)

[my_hero]

Toolen.................

Be sure to look for your white banshee's before you leave the parking lot to play on Sunday. If i take away your secret disc on hole #9, will you still 2 it?
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Would you PLEASE let me own just one FREAKING hole? :D

[smokingun1]

week five is up! (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf)

with five weeks in, it time to start making those hidden birides count!

five way tie - hole 12
four way tie - hole 8
three way tie - holes 3, 9
two way tie - hole 7

outright leads on:
1 - john (this one wont hold)
2 - charles (this one wont either)
4 - david (can anyone believe john is in second here?)
5 - john (david's mastery of hole 5 could tie john easily)
6 - claydog (looks like a lock if it stays long)
10 - charles (won't hold. charles need to turn in some cards for once!)
11 - john
13 - chris (also close to a lock)
14 - john (unless it goes back short, johns in good shape)
15 - john (not gonna hold)
16 - pat
17 - john
18 - charles (he's not really leading. he just refuses to turn in cards)

next week is Waco AM. terry will have strips... please return scores to him after the round.

PS - John and Pep... what's UP?!? you boys need to get some lead in your pencils! you fill out scorecards like you're sipping tea or something :D come on, press a little harder! :D




Will not hold up??????
Turn some cards in?????

Everyone is a critic, but I say it is all about strategy.....
Hold on to your thongs ladies, Mr Incredible will be on the hunt.....Next week.... :cool:

[my_hero]

john's grip is definitely slipping!



Ahhhhh......yes it is. I carded very few birds, a couple of bogeys, and barely cashed. I can't say my worst in 6 weeks is a -5 anymore......... :mad:

[sandalman]

who's got the cards?

the databaser is down AGAIN but i'll getthat fixed today i hope...

[my_hero]

Toolen has/had them. I debated turning it in, but i did birdie 10, 11, and 15 :)

I do have them. Pat, I will be at the Fox and Hound in North Arlington tonight for a dart league. I could meet you at the same place as before on Tuesday to get you those cards. :cool:

[my_hero]

I swear to God if Toolen throws a round with only 1 freaking birdie, it will be on hole #9. He truly owns that hole. I think i've missed it 4 times in like 20 weeks....and Toolen's only missed it ONCE!

Good God, would you let me own just one FREAKING hole? :D

I had 2 birdies john and we still tied. Yes one of them was on hole 9. I also hit 15.......played like crap yesterday! Kinda funny as I shot -9 on wednesday night and was hitting everything. :cool:

[sandalman]

ok, week 6 is up (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/seriesaverages.php) . with six weeks in, make sureto set the history depth to 5 in order to see the "if it ended now" standing.

four-way tie - holes 3, 17
three-way tie - hole 12
two-way tie - hole 16

hole 1 - john (not gonna hold)
hole 2 - david
hole 4 - david
hole 5 - john
hole 6 - claydog (gonna be tough to beat)
hole 7 - david
hole 8 - david (also tough to catch)
hole 9 - terry
hole 10 - charles (not gonna hold)
hole 11 - john
hole 13 - chris (probably a lock)
hole 14 - john (also looking good)
hole 15 - john (headed for a tie)
hole 18 - pat

this ones shaping up good now - in addition to the current ties, a number of the outright leads could easily turn into ties or even change theowner.

one thing is for sure - john is DEFINITELY fading! :eek:

[my_hero]

Ouch! I need to start dropping some of those 4's ASAP if i want to:

http://www.htwm.de/hmilker/pinky_brain.jpg

[sandalman]

week seven is up! (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/)

set history depth to 5 to see the truth. (i'll change the programming to dedfault to 5 if i get time later today)

with three weeks to go, its getting tighter. looks like a lot of pushes again.

five-way tie - holes 3, 12
two-way tie - holes 1, 2, 9, 16, 17

hole 4 - david, with john in hot pursuit
hole 5 - john
hole 6 - claydog
hole 7 - david
hole 8 - david
hole 10 - john
hole 11 - john
hole 13 - chris
hole 14 - john
hole 15 - john, with four others needingone birdie to tie
hole 18 - pat

freakin toolen just HAD to birdie 16 this week to tie me :mad:

i'd guess half of the outright leads are in danger of falling into ties, and the other half are looking fairly solid.

[my_hero]

What date does this go around end? Was it 10 or 12 weeks? I have something special for you for doing all of this, but you can't have it until you let me OWN JUST ONE FREAKING HOLE...and i'd like hole 16, 'cuz i co-OWN #9. :D

[sandalman]

it has 3 more weeks to go.

something special would be nice. as long as its not salad related.

[my_hero]

Come(sp? ;)) to think of it, it is quite <font color="green"> GREEN! </font>


I missed a retarded putt on 16 for the bird last sunday. 14'-17' down hill, nothing in the way except for the NUB. :mad:

[sandalman]

dude, thats just plain nasty!

both sentences! :eek:

[my_hero]

Please [I'm a potty-mouth!] me. Let me try that again: Please cens[/b]or me. :D

[sandalman]

s-p-a-n-k is cen[/b]sored now too???

John,
You do what to number 9? :cool:

[my_hero]

co-OWN :D

ok, much better! :cool:

[my_hero]

That's what i said initially!

What date does this go around end? Was it 10 or 12 weeks? I have something special for you for doing all of this, but you can't have it until you let me OWN JUST ONE FREAKING HOLE...and i'd like hole 16, 'cuz i OWN #9. :D



not how I read it!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D

[I'm a potty-mouth!] I just wanted to see that I am a [I'm a potty-mouth!]

[my_hero]

You changed my quote!! You can't QUOTE someone and CHANGE their words! :D

What words did you try to write that were censore[/b]d? They can't censo[/b]r me anymore. I have been given the knowledge on how to beat the system.

:D:D:DI did not see the "CO-" part of that :D:D:D My bad.

That was the first time I have been used a banned word and just wanted to see how it worked.

[my_hero]

Pat taught me to just insert [ / b ] in the middle of the word with no spaces between the brackets, or in the word, and you won't be censore[/b]d! :)

I did write co pretty small, and OWN really big! :)

Try it and lets see what happens!!!!!

Yea, I saw that.

[my_hero]

Try it and lets see what happens!!!!!




as[/b]s


Was something suppossed to happen?

[reddman]

:D

Entertaining stuff here!

[my_hero]

Shhhhhh....just keep it on the down low. The less traffic we have on this thread the more we can curse. :D

[sandalman]

and the less frequently you tell everyone who your guru is the more likely it is that s/he'll be allowed to stay on the board! :eek:

[my_hero]

My_Guru is Google. Tons of html cheat codes there. :D

[my_hero]

Did you just tell on yourself? :p

[my_hero]

Midnight at the oasis
Send your camel to bed
Shadows paintin' our faces
Traces of romance in our heads
Heaven's holdin' a half-moon
Shinin' just for us
Let's slip off to a sand dune, real soon
And kick up a little dust
Come on, Cactus is our friend
He'll point out the way
Come on, till the evenin' ends
Till the evenin' ends
You don't have to answer
There's no need to speak
I'll be your belly dancer, prancer
And you can be my sheik

I know your Daddy's a sultan
A nomad known to all
With fifty girls to attend him, they all send him
Jump at his beck and call
But you won't need no harem, honey
When I'm by your side
And you won't need no camel, no no
When I take you for a ride
Come on, Cactus is our friend
He'll point out the way
Come on, till the evenin' ends
Till the evenin' ends
Midnight at the oasis
Send your camel to bed
Got shadows paintin' our faces
And traces of romance in our heads

[sandalman]

so what are you saying? that you wanna go out to west forth worth, eat some peyote, do the fat man dance, and get g</ab>ay?

terry, is he talking to you?

[my_hero]

Oh Snap! That is sooooooooo wrong....but extremely funny....especially the Toolen comment. :D

DAAAAMMMMNNNNN YA'LL ARE GETTING A LITTLE FREAKY...

[my_hero]

Friday night, it was late
I was walking you home
We got down to the gate
And I was dreaming of the night
Would it turn out right
How to tell you girl
I wanna build my world around you
Tell you that it's true
I wanna make you understand
I'm talkin' about a lifetime plan

That's the way it began, we were hand in hand
Glenn Miller's Band was better than before
We yelled and screamed for more
And the Porter tunes "Night and Day"
Made us dance across the room
It ended all too soon
And on the way back home
I promised you'd never be alone

Hurry, don't be late
I can hardly wait
I said to myself when we're old
We'll go dancing in the dark
Walking through the park and reminiscing

Friday night, it was late
I was walking you home
We got down to the gate
And I was dreaming of the night
Would it turn out right
Now as the years roll on
Each time we hear our favorite song
The memories come along
Older times we're missing
Spending the hours reminiscing

Hurry, don't be late, I can hardly wait
I said to myself when we're old
We'll go dancing in the dark
Walking through the park and reminiscing

[sandalman]

its official. John HAS lost it

[my_hero]

I had a hundred dollar ring in my hand
So weak and tired i could barely stand
From being up all night, prayin' she'd say yes
So with a hopeful heart i hit one knee
With a tear in her eye she looked at me
It was the moment of truth, i was scared to death
My life hung on what that tear meant
Then she smiled at me
And I lost it

No one can make me cry
Make me laugh
Make me smile
Or drive me mad like she does
It's like a curse that is the cure
Better or worse, one thing's for sure
It's real love and I don't know what I'd do
If I lost it

Well the honeymoon ended and life began
Jobs and bills, losing touch with friends
And that apartment got smaller every day
Then one night the walls finally closed in
I came home late, she said where've ya been
You used to call and tell me you're on your way
She said if this is how it's gonna be, then I quit
She walked out the door
I lost it

No one can make me cry
Make me laugh
Make me smile
Or drive me mad like she does
It's like a curse that is the cure
Better or worse, one thing's for sure
It's real love and I don't know what I'd do
If I lost it

I picked myself up off the floor
She walked back through the door
And we made love like it was the first time

No one can make me cry
Make me laugh
Make me smile
Or drive me mad like she does
It's like a curse that is the cure
Better or worse, one thing's for sure
It's real love and I don't know what I'd do
If I lost it

Oh, if I lost it
I don't wanna lose it

WPDGA MIX 54.1 REQUEST LINE

Midnight at the Oasis :cool:

[smokingun1]

What the heck!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

[sandalman]

eight down, two to go (http://www.earthoffice.net/discgolf/)

the following is based on the best 5 scores:

hole 1: pat, john perfect. pep, claydog, jeremy in the hunt
hole 2: david perfect. terry, john in the hunt
hole 3: claydog, david, charles, terry, kent perfect. john, jeremy have a chance.
hole 4: david perfect. keith, john, pat, jeremy, denny in the hunt
hole 5: john. chris, david chasing
hole 6: claydog, david. jeremy, terty, pat, charles have a chance
hole 7: david, chris. claydog, john, terry, pat, keith, denny all have a chance
hole 8: david. pat, claydog, john, charles, terry chasing
hole 9: david, john, terry. denny, keith chasing
hole 10: john. david, claydog,charles, denny in the hunt
hole 11: john. david, keith chasing
hole 12: chris. pat, claydog, david, charles, john all have achance
hole 13: chris. this one looks like an early wrap.
hole 14: john, terry. david, claydog, chris have a chance
hole 15: pat, john, terry perfect. claydog, david, keith, chris in the hunt
hole 16: pat, terry. keith, john, chris hunting
hole 17: pat, john. chris, terry, kent have a chance
hole 18: pat. charles, claydog chasing

[my_hero]

Those are correct with the info you had when you entered them. You have a PM.