I NEED SOME HELP ON THIS!

Ok see the thing is i hold my disc cuffed with all fingers in. I dont know what i do but i think everytime i am puting so much spin on my disc when i drive that it goes anhyzer. Can u give me some tips

- don't throw with so much spin?

okay, forreal..

- use a more overstable disc
- release with more hyzer on the disc
- try another grip

- give me your discs and quit disc golf :D

[dannyreeves]

Ok see the thing is i hold my disc cuffed with all fingers in. I dont know what i do but i think everytime i am puting so much spin on my disc when i drive that it goes anhyzer. Can u give me some tips



Spin does not turn over discs. So, it definetly isn't that. A lack of spin does make a disc turn over.

What discs do you turn over? What angle are you releasing? How far can you throw?

[discgolfreview]

3 factors that are prone to cause turnover with a cuffed starting position.

1) you will get very little snap/spin since snap is generated by the wrist bending to a slightly cuffed position due to forward motion of the forearm and then rapid unbending at the hit. by starting with a bent wrist you prevent this motion from happening.

2) you are getting wrist roll over during the release. during the release when the wrist unbends from a cuffed position, there is often a tendency to force a level follow through that is different from the disc orentation in the form of a slight wrist roll over that will lead to turnover.

3) the disc's nose angle is forced unnaturally down and coupled with #2, will lead to turnover on many throws. with the exception of a few players i have seen, most people i have seen develop a cuffed throwing style early on in their experience in order to get a more consistent nose-down release (depending upon disc orientation, the natural hinge out of the hand generally occurs in this manner). while a nose down release is generally desirable, if there is not enough spin, a wrist roll, and very nose down trajectory is a formula for making a disc turn.

i'm not sure it's any of these things, but they are things you may want to explore as reasons for things happening.

Is the disc flying with anhyser (ie with a right turn) or does it just go off to the right from the very beginning? In other words, could this be a release problem where you're getting a bit of grip-lock and throwing the disc off to the right? I found this to be a common problem when I cuffed my wrist. It was one more thing I had to think about and that led to grip-lock. Try not to cuff your wrist but instead focus on keeping it as straight and stiff as possible. The spring technique has really worked for me and gave me new insight into the game. Holding your wrist this way should produce enough snap to get good spin on the disc.

[dannyreeves]

What is "cuffing your wrist"?

well u see i throw on a good day maybe 400 feet. it seems like no matter what disc i throw i put so much spin on it the it goes right towards the end. I guess i just need to quit putting so much spin on it

[dannyreeves]

well u see i throw on a good day maybe 400 feet. it seems like no matter what disc i throw i put so much spin on it the it goes right towards the end. I guess i just need to quit putting so much spin on it



Did you not understand that spin does not make a disc turn over? Why is it that you think that?

[williethekid]

Ok it appears that a lot of people on this forum aren't listening to kid and are certain that spin makes a disc turnover. Well that would be true if there wasn't this term in physics called gyroscopic(i think thats how they spell it) motion. In summation its says that the faster something spins the more stable it is and that it resists turning. If you cant adapt this to disc golf then do this simple test. Take out a midrange driver or putter. Throw it with very little arm motion but put a nice amount of snap on it, it will go perfectly straight. Now begin to increase arm speed and the disc will start traveling more to the right as u increase arm speed. This is because the disc is trying to have a forward vector(force) that is also moving slightly right with to little spin. When people say that Kid_Roc throws effortlessly its because he putts a ton of snap on it. His arm speed isn't as fast as some would think necessary because the disc stays stable and continues to fly because spin makes distance. You can throw a disc with very little arm and a ton of snap farther than the same disc with a ton of arm and no spin.

dude who the heck said anything about turning over Kid Roc. I said that is is fading right ok! Lord kid learn to read.

[dannyreeves]

Umm, what is the difference??? Do you know what turning over means?

Unless, you are a lefty. Then it wouldn't be turning over. :p

[dannyreeves]

I just gave willie 5 stars! :D

Si tis a lefty

[dannyreeves]

huh. that is totally different.

huh. that is totally different.



Ok explain is is different that im a lefty?

[dannyreeves]

you said that is goes a little right towards the end. that is normal for a lefty. so, what is the problem, again?

ok i understand now but is there any way to improve it?

[dannyreeves]

improve what? that the disc falls a little right after going 400'? Is that a bad thing?

[dannyreeves]

Are you wanting the disc to fly perfectly straight for 400+' and ever get stable when it slows down? If so, good luck! :)

Ok fine fine i guess its ok but dont get so snappy

[dannyreeves]

I am actually not being "snappy." Just trying to understand what you problem actually is.

a'ight its all good

[williethekid]

thanks 4 the five stars :)