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As mentioned in a previous post I recently had a problem with "wrist shock." I have overcome this problem and have encountered all the new problems I'm sure everybody has. I've decided to complain about it on the internet. I haven't really messed with my drivers all week except for one day on a different course. My local course ranges from 110–261 yards. This sounds easy, but after playing a few rounds on the course I have found that it is not "easy." It forces me to tune my mid-game. My current record is +6 and my worst game was +11. It's a 9 hole course.
"110 yards, that will be easy." Indeed. Until you try to get it in two throws. A slight miss to the left means it falls way down onto the floor of the (mostly) dry creek bed and give the water snakes a wake-up call. Here is my question:
I throw from a stand-still and whip out the disc. My left foot forces itself forward for the follow thru. Life is good. But, I've found it always goes left. I started putting anheizer on it. It goes right, then left, then flattens out and goes slightly right, then glides to the left slightly and lands perfectly. Is this anheizer, or am I just throwing correctly with no real right angle on it on release?
Other than that, my only other problem is now that I am throwing with more-or-less decent form, the disc way overshoots my target with little effort. I'm learning to control power with amount of rotation, but it looks like that's just going to be a practice-based endeavor.
Thanks again for any advice,
LiquidDog
Current disc setup:
Driver — Elite XL (167-169)
Mid-Range — Elite X MRV (170-172)
Mid-Range — Roc (172) ... I find I get more distance with this than the MRV, but way too much distance for many cases. The MRV floats nicely.
Putter — Aviar (171) I'm nailing 30 feet puts now using the "straddle" position and getting it close up to 50 feet.
Blarg
Apr 17 2004, 02:15 AM
Don't you mean 'feet,' not 'yards?' Otherwise, the course you're playing is very long. 110 yards would make the shortest hole 330 feet and the longest 783 feet!
rhett
Apr 17 2004, 01:48 PM
Are you throwing your Roc on the 110'-er or your XL? Your best bet would be to start throwing your putter off the tee for that distance. If you are a righty, aim to the right of the basket and let the disc skip/slide in under the basket for the drop in putt. Sounds easier than it is, but a righty should try to hit ground right of the basket on upshots (110 feet will eventually be a short up shot and most likely a long putt for you) and let the disc skip/slide/crawl to the left. Watch how the disc acts on the ground and you will see what I mean.
I throw from a stand-still and whip out the disc. My left foot forces itself forward for the follow thru. Life is good. But, I've found it always goes left. I started putting anheizer on it. It goes right, then left, then flattens out and goes slightly right, then glides to the left slightly and lands perfectly. Is this anheizer, or am I just throwing correctly with no real right angle on it on release?
Your discs are going left because that is what most discs are designed to do. Unless you've got a really understable disc like a Stratus, your discs will make a left turn at the end of their flight. As for releasing with anhyser, that is why your disc began by flying to the right. You release it with some anhyser angle and then the design of the disc takes over eventually flattening it out and then making it fade to the left again. Welcome to the "S" Curve!!
On those shorter holes try using your putter and try to release as flat as possible. Putters are inherently stable. I usually use my putter to drive up to 220ft or so and they just glide right up to the basket. Remember--you want to use the slowest disc that will get you as far as you want to go.
Are you throwing your Roc on the 110'-er or your XL? Your best bet would be to start throwing your putter off the tee for that distance.
I have been throwing the MRV. The problem is I have trouble with it going way too far if I do a pefect low-power throw. I got more distance and now it has hurt my mid-game. :confused:
Hmm, I'll try my putter tonight. It seems like a reach for a putt thou. The only putting technique I can do with any consistency is the "straddle" putt.
-LiquidDog
shanest
Apr 19 2004, 06:09 PM
Are you throwing your Roc on the 110'-er or your XL? Your best bet would be to start throwing your putter off the tee for that distance.
I have been throwing the MRV. The problem is I have trouble with it going way too far if I do a pefect low-power throw. I got more distance and now it has hurt my mid-game. :confused:
Hmm, I'll try my putter tonight. It seems like a reach for a putt thou. The only putting technique I can do with any consistency is the "straddle" putt.
-LiquidDog
Just because you're throwing a putter doesn't mean you have to throw it like a putt. When I throw putters off the tee (most holes under 240 or 250), I hold them like a driver and do the exact same run-up as I do when I throw a driver. You may flip it over, so try either an overstable putter or putting less power on it.
Hmm, this brings up another question I've had about ranges with certain types of discs. I've been able to find very little information on it. My current strategy is:
Drivers — Over 250 feet
Mid-Range — 75-250 feet
Putter — 0-75 feet
The longest hole on my local short course is 264 feet, and I throw the MRV just short on it usually. That is giving everything I have, applying perfect power, etc. If I were to throw a driver I'd just overshoot it.
What are normal ranges to throw with different classes of discs? Isn't throwing a putter 250 feet really just using it as a midrange? Even the big courses around here don't have too many baskets that are longer than 400-500 feet.
-LiquidDog
* Sorry for the edit, got yards/feet mixed up again :)
It's all really what you feel comfortable with. In other words, you said how far your mrv goes, so you know it fairly well. If you try to throw it further, it might not go where you want it to go. You should be able to get more distance out of your putter, like the others were talking about. Of course, your experimentation should be done on a nice big open field, and not really on the course (try a soccer field). Throw the disc flat and see what it does. Throw it different ways and see how you get the most distance or the most accuracy. This if very fun to do. Try the S-curve shot for a lot of distance, etc. Keep asking lots of questions cause there is always someone here to answer you (or set you straight). :D
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