Maryland Amateur Tour

[hawkgammon]

Exciting prospect isn't it? ;)

[md21954]

i propose a tour stop at seneca saturday if the weather is OK, otherwise, a pine grove, goucher, druid trifecta.

[md21954]

or codorus?

[md21954]

dare is say... patapsco?

[md21954]

kinder?

[md21954]

where's ski? we'll send a barrage to bring down his undefeated claim.

[girlie]

I'm going out on a limb here and predicting that Ivan the Terrible is going to avoid the Brandywine area of DE aka Wilmington.

I propose a MD AM Tour Stop at the Brandywindjammer this Saturday and Sunday! :D

Come on folks, you KNOW that the Delaware Disc Golfers put on great events from fab players packs to a course in tip-top shape and a smoothly run event. The player's party at scrimmiges is always a blast too!

So... while you're anxiously awaiting the posting of the new ratings (look out folks - I'm gonna be a propogator REALLY SOON) - let's go play some WIND golf! :D

[md21954]

my confidence is still in shambles after wap wap. too soon for a two day tourney for me.

druid hill makes me feel nice and comfy /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif pine grove as well.

[hawkgammon]

Sissy boy!

I've got a SBER thing with Christine on Saturday, so I'm out, plus the potential downpour. I'm preliminarily suggesting Seneca Sunrise Sunday!from the tips. Well okay maybe not sunrise, but early enough to possibly get back for football. Early enough to at least be in vehicles driving and listening to games. Final details TBA.

[Dick]

yeah, no brandywind for me either. sunday seneca sounds like a plan, not too early though. i do have tivo after all. :D

[md21954]

take your tivo and shove it up your *****!!! :p

<font color="purple"> no disc during ravens games. </font> this sunday will be 9AM with the druid regulars, off to the farmers market, then simmering chili while the ravens let you know why the steelers wear yellow.

saturday... pine grove. time... tbd.

[hawkgammon]

no disc during ravens games



How much of them not scoring touchdowns can you watch? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[md21954]

word. but it's all the more exciting when they do :D you see, when boller throws a long interception, it's not so bad. it's kinda like a punt that puts the defense closer to the end zone to score a TD.

[hawkgammon]

Good point. Which unit will score more touchdowns this year: the offense or the defense?

[md21954]

thursday night triples, 9/16/2004. metal tees, START 5:40, ace pot STARTS at $253.

[hawkgammon]

Special guest appearance by me next week! :cool:

[md21954]

i invite the tour to come to druid bright and early sunday morning, 0830. a group of sunday am regulars play doubles or fox &amp; hound with a few $1 ctps. will be done before football.

[Sharky]

Come on out to my place after the game, and bring your zoo mates!

[md21954]

sorry shark, i meant sunday morning and did the edit.

a lot going on this weekend in baltimore-- hampden fest (world's biggest jerry springer show), greek fest, etc..

ya never know though. will hawk be there?

[Sharky]

He has remained strangely silent on the subject, perhaps he is giving me the silent treatment :confused:

BTW my son says he will be the best volleyballer in the house /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[hawkgammon]

Just been busy spreading love. :D I'm in the city on Saturday at the Catholic Charities Dragon Boat races. That runs till 1800 or so.

Still considering <font color="green"> Seneca Sunrise Sunday </font> depending on the weather. Check back here before you go to bed Saturday for a final call.

[md21954]

well... if hawk ain't going, i might :D

my company is going to kick your company's tail at the dragon boat race!

[hawkgammon]

You're going down to China town punk! :D

[md21954]

bring your game to druhill sunday morn and i'll be sure to spend a pleasant weekday at seneca during your vacation. ;)

[md21954]

beers on me!

[hawkgammon]

Have you decided if you are playing the Mid-Atlantic yet?

[md21954]

no decision yet. i'm not exactly excited about playing tournaments after my WVO debacle, plus my lack of seneca experience. i dunno.

dragon boat races cancelled? it'd actually be fun to watch in this weather :D

[hawkgammon]

My understanding from the website is that the races are going on now. Christine just rolled out. I'm on my way in about 30 minutes.

What time are you boys playing tomorrow morning in case I pull the plug on Seneca? I'm concerned about driving over there and the place being closed due to flooding. I've been burned by that before. :(

I emailed you Bluemont info.

[md21954]

druid, 0830 sun. usually doubles or fox and hound.

if you are going to push it late, i'll wait to take you on solo.

[Dick]

since Hawk is apparently backing out of seneca, I will host a tour stop for those who don't want to wake up at 6am on a sunday, but still hit the 1pm game. 10AM ROCKBURN!!!!

see you there!

Hmmmmmmmm, so many choices, so little time. Hopefully the boss lets me leave early to "go to church" @ Druhill. Shooting for a ETA of 1000 HRS for the second round... Then on to the widely acclaimed M.A.R.S (mid-atlantic reptile show) not to be missed :p And rounding out the day with some <font color="purple"> [/RAVENS] <font color="black"> </font> action. Then its dinner and a movie :D

[hawkgammon]

Seneca 1000 Sunday. Long tees. For those not afraid to play the Mid-Atlantic. ;)

[Dick]

am tour rockburn results:
glen 55
rich 63 in cluding a 2 stroke penalty for playing from the wrong lie.
BB lost count after 3 5's and 2 4's on the front

glen holds #4 tag, rich takes #16 BB limos away with 27, but did find his lost disc.

[hawkgammon]

Three players? That's the best you could do? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif


rich 63 in cluding a 2 stroke penalty for playing from the wrong lie.




We really need to hear the details on this one Evil. :D

Bored Review: 9-19-04


i lost my blue retractable leash between hole 1 and 9.



What exactly were you freaks doing out there? :confused: :o :eek:

[hawkgammon]

<font color="blue"> BAGGER RICK WINS MID-ATLANTIC TUNE UP TOUR STOP AT SENECA :cool:</font>

<font color="green"> Hawk And Shark Tie For Second :( </font>

<font color="purple"> wednesday night doubles sean b. schooled by the wreck king /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif </font>

Five players made the unusually early 1000 kick-off so everyone could make kick-off. Attendees included yours truly, the Professor, Rick Honn, Sean B. and JG. As announced earlier we played the long tees, the color of which I'm not sure. There were two crews on the course laboring away to make things spiffy for next weekend.

Deuces were few and far between. It was mostly a collection of threes and fours with an occasional five or six thrown in for good measure.

Our first interesting moment came on #5 when Sean backhanded a tree with a resounding smack. He seemed fine, but it sounded awful. Real disaster struck on #7 when JG put his TeeBird high in a cedar :(, and Sean carded the first six of the day. :oScores at the turn were:

JG-29
Rick-31
Hawk-32
Shark-33
Sean-38*

On #10 Rick finally breaks through with the first deuce. :cool: I end up two inches above two meters (courtesy of the Professors measuring tape) off the tee, and then attempt to match Sean's effort on #5 by smashing the back of my hand into a tree on my follow through manfully drawing blood. Circle five. :mad:On #11 I'm the only one not to go OB as Rick and Sean take circle fours :(, and Shark & JG have matching circle fives. :mad:I then join the deuce club parking #13 much to the entertainment of my playing partners. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif #15 became a cluster of fives with JG getting the lone four, and then departing to catch the 'skins games. Curiously Rick and JG were tied at 52 at this point of the match. Coincidence? You decide. ;) On #16 Shark joins the deuce club by driving within 8' of the basket. On #18 I putt for my three (not knowing it would have edged me ahead of Shark) calling money only to watch the disc somehow kick out of the right side of the chains. :o

Final scores were:
Bagger-63
Hawk-65
Shark-65
Sean B.-76*
JG-999

*Sean misadded his front nine putting a 36 when he shot a 38, so his 38+36=74 plus the two stroke penalty. :(

There will be another Seneca Tour stop this week (probably on Wednesday) during the day for all you un/underemployed slackers. :D

[Sharky]

Thanks for the write up yadda yadda yadda but my bird putt was twice as long as you reported, about the same distance as your "money changer" putt on 18.

[md21954]

am tour stop, today, pine grove 5ish (no later than 5:15).

[Dick]

thats' crap paul. you can't call weekday am tours with no advance notice just to pump up your participation points :o

i thought we agreed they had to be announced the day before to be valid tour stops. commish?

[md21954]

9/20 tour stop results from the grove...

jim b -- 60
paul -- 65

we started on hole 16 and i was in the lead until hole 9. downhill for me from there.

[hawkgammon]

Boys boys! I don't think Paul297365973509 was doing anything malicious there. We had agreed that results needed to be posted here the next day for me to consider counting them for card status. Tour stop announcements should be posted before midnight the day before so everyone can scope it out first thing in the morning and make plans if interested in attending. Current card earners are:

myself
Evil
Shark
Paul
Boyd
Ski
Glen
Service
Felty
Three people tied for 10th.

Based on normal attendence at stops I attend, time remaining in the season etc. I would guess that everyone from Glen up is safe. It's unlikely we'll see any substantial movement between now and the end of the year.

Cards have the front design completed, and I'm working on the back which will make these the most coveted and naturally controversial cards in the land. ;) No two are exactly alike! :)

[Dick]

Tour stop announcements should be posted before midnight the day before so everyone can scope it out first thing in the morning and make plans if interested in attending.



this is how i remember it being. if it ain't announced the day before it isn't a tour stop, it's just casual golf! he's just trying to overtake me and shark! :eek:

[md21954]

ah... but rich, the am tour IS just casual golf ;)

[hawkgammon]

The Tour is not casual golf...it's a way of life. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Dick]

also , my penalty for playing form the wrong lie happened after i threw a blind shot on hole 4 from briar land. glan said it was parked and i would be very happy with it... i walk up to the closest disc(about 7 feet) which happens to be a white kc pro aviar and putt it in. unfortunately it look like the JK PRO aviar i threw and i had sunk glen's putt! glen goes up to the other disc(about 10 feet past) and says, hey this isn't my disc. i look at the disc in my hand and YOIKS!! so i give glen his disc and walk over and putt down my correct lie. the penalty mighyt have made a difference if either i had played better to challenge Glen(he said he wasn't counting it but it didn't matter) or boyd played better and challenged me.

[Sharky]

Whoa there cowboy, let's move it to the rules thread, sounds like you need another stroke :o

[hawkgammon]

Okay just to make it official...

For a round(s) to qualify as a Tour Stop, you need the following:

1. Two or more card carrying members. (Easy to do this year since everyone in the state has a card. More difficult next year with only 10(ish) going out. I say ish as there could be a tie, and so forth.

2. You have to post your intentions here by midnight the day before your announced tee time giving everyone ample time to see it, and participate if so inclined.

3. You must then provide a write up (of varying quality) here no later than midnight the day after the Tour stop has occurred to qualify.

4. As always the Big Mac Daddy has final say. This offer not valid for employees of the Maryland Amateur Tour and their relatives.

[girlie]

And so it began with 4 simple rules... :D

[hawkgammon]

I know. I can already sense the end coming. :)

[md21954]

four rules ain't bad when you consider they didn't emerge until 1,294 posts and countless tour stops into this debacle. as long as there are no rules regarding smack talk and bored etiquette, i'll be a proud card carrying member.

(i just said member) :D

[md21954]

oh yeah! no member fees either.

(i just said it again!) :o

[hawkgammon]

You're just trying to goad Nick into coming over here. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[hawkgammon]

Player X and I will be doing a Seneca Tour stop tomorrow starting at 1100. One round from a yet to be determined tee, two rounds possible depending on time. I have an 1830 class in E City I need to be back for.

[hawkgammon]

<font color="green"> SHARK AND BRADY TIE IN REGULATION AT SENECA TUNE-UP TOUR STOP </font>

<font color="blue"> The Professor Wins Round One In Four Hour Playoff During Round Two </font>

A suprising turn out of five was on hand this morning for the Tour action. Joining myself and Player X. was the aforementioned Shark and Brady, and suprise guest star Jeff Pop. We agreed on the longs and headed off.

Things were kind of up and down again like last time with a scattering of threes, fours and fives. Things got interesting on #4 when Mr. Forehand DX Eagle Roller deuced it. :cool:We also had another one of those Seneca Triangle moments when Player X. flicked his Banshee off the tee, and as we watched it curl around a cedar, it never reappeared. :eek: :confused: Five of us looked up, down all around and were unsuccessful in locating it. It simply vanished like Rich's drive on #10 did the last time he was out there with us. Circle five for the X. Player X. ate another circle five on #8 when his drive found the big cedar in the middle of the fairway. :( Scores after nine were:

Brady-30
Hawk-30
Shark-33
Jeff-35
Player X.-37 :o

Things were about to go horribly awry for me on the back nine. :) Shark comes out swinging on #10 with a deuce. :cool:In the reverse of what happened at last Sundays Tour stop, I was the only one to go OB on #11 this time, as the rest of the group played it more successfully. Circle five for moi. :( On #12 three of us take fours which really shouldn't happen, and then the next time we went up a hill (#15) Shark threes it while Brady and Player X. take fours, I take a five :( and Jeff takes the six. :mad:Shark smells blood and starts circling his chums. I follow that five up with another on #16 and stagger in from there. Everyone else was threeing and fouring.

Back nine scores were:

Shark-27 :cool:
Brady-30
Player X.-32
Jeff-33
Hawk-35 :o

Final tally showed:
Brady-60
Shark-60
Hawk-65
Jeff-68
Player X.-69

Thanks go to Mark for supplying everyone with fruit and nut bars to get us through the back nine. :)

At this point Player X. and I were going to go around again from the shorts, tags were shuffled, and players milled around, and then everyone decided to saddle up again! :D

[hawkgammon]

<font color="purple">BRADY GETS REVENGE FROM THE SHORT TEES </font>

<font color="red"> :cool:Player X. Ties Shark For Second :o </font>

Realizing that we hadn't played off the tie from the previous round to determine a winner, I make the excutive call and inform Shark and Brady that the first hole of this round is the play-off for the win. Both players perk up at the prospect of winning. :) Everyone threes the first two holes. Everyone except me threes #3 as I take a four. On #4, Shark makes his move. He drives downhill pin low ( :confused:) about 30' to the left of the basket. Brady's drive was short and still up hill. Brady elects to sissy out and lays up, and the Professor calmly steps up and drills the putt for the deuce :cool:with his faded red Champion Aviar, for the first round win, and early lead in round two. On #5 I am 10' out and miss yet another deuce putt, (as I did on #8 in round one from the longs :mad:) as my putting today was horrific. The rest of the front nine was mostly a collection of threes for everyone until we got to #9. Owning the box Mark cranks his drive into the cedar on the right of the fairway hole. Much giggling ensues. Player X. steps up and cranks his drive right down the alley, and Jeff and Brady roll to differing degrees of success. I step up and proceed to imitate the Professor's drive, though to be fair my disc was not as high up in the tree. :DCircle fives for both of us. :(

Scores on the front were:
Shark-28
Brady-28
Player X.-28
Jeff-29
Hawk-31

At this point I am slightly disinterested due to hunger though Mark did supply all intersted parties with another nutritional bar prior to the round. :cool:

On #11 Shark plays my role from round one as the lone player to go OB. Player X. took the interesting route through the woods on the hill to land even with the basket, and I take a similar route, but 20' shorter. Jeff drives (I missed it as I was adding up the front nine scores) and parks it for his deuce of the day! :cool:Mark takes the circle four. :( Then it's a deuce frenzy. Player X. and I both get #12, and Mark and Brady both deuce #13. On #15 Mark and Player X. both find the newly restrung jail and take circle fours. :mad:Bringing it home Player X. deuces #18. :cool:

Scores on the back nine were:
Brady-27
Hawk-27
Mark-28
Player X.-28
Jeff-32

Final damage was:
Brady-55
PlayerX.-56
Mark-56
Hawk-58
Jeff-61

Though these were run as two separate Tour stops, for you numbers geeks out there, the combined action was:

Brady-115
Shark-116
Hawk-123
Player X.-125
Jeff-129

[md21954]

tonight's tnt will draw at 5:25. we play from the metals, ace pot starts at $279.

[Sharky]

Hawk incredible escape shot by you on whatever hole that was where you were faced with a near impossible route to the basket and you threw a sky annie roller just over the last cedar tree, unreal. It probably got you two strokes on me as I tried a similar shot right after you without success

I know to never try the shot you saw the big boys throw but surely I can execute any shot that hawk can heave, what gives :confused:

Also lefty's comment on the light air in WVA was a classic :D

[hawkgammon]

Thank you fan! :D I'm sorry I missed your debacle. ;) It was #9 from the shorts.

Perhaps I have shots that I haven't unveiled to you yet. :cool:

Yes the air comment was outstanding, and I regreted leaving it out of the write up when I realized I had done so, but I will only go back and proof and edit so many times. :)

[hawkgammon]

Bored Review: 9-23-04


By paul on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 10:13 pm:


team no spin/justin p/paul took it with a -14 despite missing the should be gimme deuce hole two. jim drove, justin putted, and i was along for the ride. team pat mc/jim b/ hawk came in with a respectable -13.





What a brutal defeat. Three of us miss a 12'er on #13. :o

#16-Jim drives, Pat putts
#17-Hawk drives, Pat putts
#18-Jim drives, Hawk putts
#1-Hawk drives & putts
#2-Hawk drives & putts
#3-Jim drives, we miss
#4-Pat drives & putts
#5-Jim drives, Hawk putts
#6-Jim drives, we miss
#7-Pat drives & putts
#8-Hawk drives & putts
#9-Jim drives & putts
#10-Pat drives, Hawk putts
#11-Pat drives, we miss
#12-Pat drives and putts
#13-Jim drives, we miss :mad:
#14-Jim drives, Hawk putts
#15-Jim drives, we miss

Ahh what could have been. :)

Myers near ace on #4 was doubly spectacular as not only did he hit chains on the left side, but he nearly decapitated some guy who was running in front of the basket for some reason.

[md21954]

oh well... i'd have hoped you'd win, if it didn't mean us losing :D i did contribute 2 or 3 drives, and lead off with several safe fairway drives so justing and jim could go for it. no clutch putting from me though :eek:

[Sharky]

More wvo pics! http://www.dotphoto.com/MemViewAlbum.asp?AID=1814207

[hawkgammon]

Geesh another log in screen. :D

[Dick]

ooops, you did it wrong sharky!. you need to use the share button and send the link to yourself. then post that link that goes directly into the view mode of the album!

[hawkgammon]

Okay Evil I shot a 59 in the second round. Do you owe me another dollar? :D

[Dick]

you suck! i can't believe i offered you points. sub 900 my butt!

[Sharky]

Am tour practice is paying off I surmise, I posted a 53 at the rock today, snaring bb's 27 tag :D :eek: :D

Are you doing a write up?

[Sharky]

Sorry about the snafu, hope it works this time, volume 2 has some more action shots and some nice relaxaction shot's too! Look for the packer fan pic. http://www.dotphoto.com/Go.asp?l=sharkstar&P=828D&AID=1814207&GID=1021662&T=1

[hawkgammon]

Listen I'll be kind about this. I only took your bet as you nagged me into it. I'll let you call the whole thing off, as apparently I'm winning without the 11.56 stokes you need to give me at the end. :D

[hawkgammon]

Are you doing a write up?





Well it would naturally be all about me. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

DJ and Gump tied the first round with 47's from the short to A pins.

DJ holds a one stroke lead going into round three after shooting long to A. The lead group in the second round was DJ, Gump, Paul W. and Deebo. I was second card with Matt C. and Dan ?.

I shot 50-59.

Paul ended up the day shooting 56-64.

Intermission highlight was Lindsay driving out to lunch and shouting an unprintable at Paul questioning his manhood for refusing to give her strokes in their bet. :D

Lindsay shot a 62 in the second round which for her was a repeat of short to A.

Rumor had it that someone got a roller ace, but I heard no official word on that.

About 50 players showed.

[md21954]

Lindsay shot a 62 in the second round which for her was a repeat of short to A.

that's smokin! :D

[Sharky]

For sure, a 62 from the longs is unreal :eek:

On the pics, check out the link from my post a couple up, that one still seems to work and the packer fan shot a 64, whoops I mean she is shot 64. ;)

[hawkgammon]

For sure, a 62 from the longs is unreal



No you dolt she shot a 62 from the shorts again. :)

[Sharky]

Heh heh :D

whew, better to be a dolt than looking over the shoulder at girlie :eek:

[hawkgammon]

<font color="blue">D.J. Wins Advanced! :cool: </font>

<font color="green">Four Great Smooth Rounds From The Gnome </font>

Other observations:

I believe Gump came in second.

I believe I finished sixth.

Deebo folds in rounds three & four.

Dr. Evil might have won the old man's division.

Merhi continues to be my second favorite TD. Payout was obscene as always. Post tournament swapping of plastic among the winners looked like a Turkish bazar. As if I didn't already have a lifetime supply of Spiders! :D

Halftime today saw Carny Gangloff running the "Land In The Circle Around 18B From The Parking Lot" contest. The prize this year was a rather unique golf cart. Evil actually aced during qualifying, but choked in the finals. I believe Ross won it with a throw within 4' of the basket edging out Girlie! :eek:

Also at halftime a Ring Of Fire was held and won by Justin P.

There was a roller ace yesterday on #14 by a gentleman who hadn't put in for the ace pot. John gave him a proto Valk for it today anyways.

Everyone thinks Paul is a sissy for not coming back today.

Best visual of the day was DJ holding the boxed basket over his head. Rich has a picture of this. Yes Deej could sleep in the box. :D

I unveiled a few new throws today including a tomahawk, flick forehand roller, and my first every PDGA sanctioned backhand roller that was moderately successful. The Professor would have been beside himself. :)

Rich shot what might have been the hot round in round three with a 60 from Long to B, which was the hardest layout in my opinion.

Other than a horrific double circle six on #11 in round four, (short to C) I was flirting with a 57. The drive hit the big tree on the right right off the tee and kicked OB 15' down the fairway. Penalty. :( Throw number two is on the edge of the woods near the manhole. Throw number three hyzers OB 5' from the basket. :mad:Penalty. Made putt on fourth throw. JG gave me a very encouraging pep talk after that hole, which is generally unprintable here. But thanks JG! ;)

Rich was limping so badly after the tourney, I'll be suprised if he makes the Ho Down next weekend.

Next year we'll have to give this the Druid Hill Open marketing treatment to fill this sucker.

[md21954]

For sure, a 62 from the longs is unreal :eek:

On the pics, check out the link from my post a couple up, that one still seems to work and the packer fan shot a 64, whoops I mean she is shot 64. ;)

was i being sarcastic? was shark being sarcastic? i'm confused :confused: or maybe sarcastic

[md21954]

Next year we'll have to give this the Druid Hill Open marketing treatment to fill this sucker.

might be possible if it's a one day.

[md21954]

Everyone thinks Paul is a sissy for not coming back today.

how about the 20+ players that might have come from afar if it was a one day as well?

[md21954]

am tour stop, tomorrow, 9/29, druhill, 4:30

[hawkgammon]

I'm not sure what's going on for this Saturday. Safelite auto glass is holding me hostage again starting at 0800. They kept me locked down for nine hours last Friday, and I've been promised that I'm first on the list, but who knows. Maybe something afternoonish, or what we like to call The Ski Hour. :D

[md21954]

if anything, late afternoon would probably be better for me.

[hawkgammon]

That sounds like three votes already!

[md21954]

am tour stop, today, 9/29, druhill, 4:30

friendly reminder!

SKI has weekends off !! call me for tour stop info...

[md21954]

tour stop recap...
druhill, metal tees.
after nine--
smokin' joe 24
paul 26 (shoulda been 24)

joe bailed when it started to drizzle. tom e filled in. i fell apart on hole 11, taking a circle 6 :eek:

final scores
smokin' joe 999
paul 57

[md21954]

tonight's TNT draw will be 5:15 (sunset is 6:50, so we need to be prompt). metals of course. the ace pot starts at $300, so $150 plus half of what is collected pays out. the rest carries over.

a few baskets have been moved. all are the same as last week except i think 2b, 5a, 7b, 8b.

[md21954]

team gloinh/shark/pete won $22 each with -14 at another TNT fall classic. congrats shark!

the ace pot continues to grow.

[hawkgammon]

Ahhh I'm glad Glen was finally able to get Shark a win. Nice accomplishment dragging such dead weight around. ;)

[Sharky]

Yeah, I got the weekly double win, Calvert and Druid, thanks for the kudos :D

[md21954]

how much did glen have to carry yous two?

[Dick]

MD am supertour event, this weekend, Old Dominion Showdown. should be a great time, 4 great courses and a fat payout. Hopefully a couple other AM TOUR card holders show up. i'll try to post a writeup by sunday nite.

[Sharky]

OK, you asked for it. 14 birds. Hole 13 Glen drive, Glen putt, 14, Glen drive, Mark putt, 15 Pete drive, Glen putt, 16 Mark drive & putt, 17 Glen drive and putt, 18 Glen drive, Mark putt, 1 All drive, Mark putt, 2 Glen Glen, 3 Glen, I forgot, 4 Mark, Mark, 5 All Pete, 7 Glen, Mark, 8 Mark Pete 9 Mark Mark.

Was that fascinating or what

[Dick]

you skipped #6?

[Dick]

oh, i get it. no birdie on that one... :(

[Sharky]

Oh, I'm so sorry the nation needs to know ALL the details, no problem:

10 Glen drive, Mark's up shot, Pete putt, 11 Glen drive, Pete up shot, Mark putt, 14 Pete drive, we all miss the putt, I drop in the par putt, 6 Glen and Pete take my drive, I take Glen's drive, Glen taps in for the three.

Any more questions?

[Dick]

are you taking ginko biloba or whatever? your memory is pretty sharp for an old guy! :D

[hawkgammon]

Remember he lives and breathes this stuff! :D I'm just amazed he remembered the parts that didn't specifically involve him. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[md21954]

goucher tour stop to prep for bluemont?

[hawkgammon]

Bluemont's not until the 17th! I think Calvert is our most Bluemont like local course. I'm thinking Patapsco tomorrow afternoon. I'm curious as to what the place looks like. I haven't been back there since the Picnic.

[hawkgammon]

Saturday-Patapsco-1400. :cool:

[md21954]

that might work for me. i've heard it has been being maintained.

[hawkgammon]

I'm being held hostage again this morning by the windshield repair people. :D

[md21954]

earlier the better. georgia and lsu kickoff at 3:30 ;)

call me if you can do it a lil earlier. i'm out to get coffee/groceries. patapsco is a swell idea.

"Patapsco is a swell idea" Rockburn is where the big boys will be. :eek:

[hawkgammon]

<font color="blue">IRONMAN GUMP WINS PATAPSCO TOUR STOP COMPLETING THREE ROUNDS TODAY! :cool:</font>

<font color="green">Hawk And Paul Tie For Second, Or DFL :D </font>

After finally being freed by Safelite Autoglass Repair (Safelite...quality windshield repairs when you have 16 hours to invest over several days while arranging and awaiting their arrival! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif) I scrambled out to meet Paul and we picked up Gump who had just completed two narrow losses to H to the G. Gump was sporting a tee-shirt with the words League Champs on the back, and a graphic of three men. Two of the men appeared to be engaged in an act of affection generally frowned upon by local authorities. ;) Paul called red tees so after a brief warm up by your Disc Golf Hero which included complaints about hunger which Paul graciously helped rectify with a nutri-bar, we moseyed off.

Paul takes an early lead by threeing #1 while Gump opts to take the scenic route on the other side of the road, and I opt to break the hole down into four segments of dimishing sizes. On #3 Gump records the first deuce of the day :cool:, and he quickly follows that up by deucing #5. I also deuced #5. :) On #8 I parked the Spider two feet from the basket for another deuce :D, and Gump got his third on the front nine by drilling #9. :) The wheels came of for me on #9 as I took a five on what was one of many hit baskets on putts. While all this was going on, Paul was quietly threeing and fouring his way around the course.

Scores after nine were:
Gump-25
Paul-29
Hawk-30

On the back nine my disaster on #9 carried over as I managed a circle five :( on #10 after doing a little bumper tree action and ploping right down in the road; then coupling that with another hit basket four putt. :mad:On #11 Paul takes his first five with a couple of less than stellar drives, Gump fours, and I take a three. Disaster strikes yet again for me on #13 with yet another, but thankfully last, five. Paul busts out his next five on #16 when he again ends up short left off the tee, and his second shot leaves him way short. I salvage the tie on #17 when I manage a three to Paul's four after a missed putt by Mr. Druid @ 3:45. Meanwhile Gump is playing the role of Paul on the front nine quietly threeing and fouring along.

Scores on the back nine were:
Gump-30 (55)
Hawk-32 (62)
Paul-33 (62)

Paul ponyed up a buck to Gump as the sleeveless one covered the six stroke handicap he gave Paul prior to the round.

Tomorrow it's Pine Grove at high noon! :cool:Bring your six shooters.

[md21954]

Tomorrow it's Pine Grove at high noon! :cool:Bring your six shooters.

the difference was doinking my first putt after a somewhat spectacular upshot on hole 4 for bogey. i didn't put my bag down and carelessly bounced out. :mad:

no can do high noon. 1330 at the absolute earliest. unless you want to catch me on the flip side of a double header at druid. call.

[hawkgammon]

I forgot about that one! :D

[hawkgammon]

In the event anyone is heading out to join the tour this morning, we'll be starting on hole 7 so park in the neighborhood!

[hawkgammon]

<font color="purple">PINE GROVE PAUL DEFEATS GLEN AT PG TOUR STOP!!! </font> :cool:

<font color="brown"> Paul Graciously Declines #4 Tag. </font>

Four of us teed it up at #7 a little after noon today. Rounding out our threesome was Sabrina a.k.a. Mrs. Glen. Things get kind of jumbled here, so try and follow along.

After playing #7 we are confronted by a herd of players coming at us in the other direction. Some of them were throwing Aerobies. So we do an about face and make #13 our second hole. Being a Tour Stop, everyone always is looking to practice things, so Paul decided to whip out a roller. It promptly hooks on his finger and goes to the right, and slightly begind us. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif His second shot is perched on the OB line to the ball field. With all this misadventure he salvages a five.

On #14 we find a sleeping bag, pillow and water bottle on the ground right next to the basket. Clearly Marc C. or Jim B. had a little trouble at home last night. ;)

We're all kind of putzing along when things get interesting on #17. Paul manages to go OB to the left on both #17 and #18. Circles five and four. He is heard to mutter,


I am horrible at this. Why do I keep playing?



Ahh how many times have we all thought that...about you? :DHowever this was not the lowlight of the round. :D

Making the u-turn at #1/#18 Paul takes another five, and then things got really entertaining. Glen crushes his drive on #2 for a deuce. Meanwhile I drive OB on the right :(, and then approach OB into the baseball field :mad:. I make the awkward downhill putt for a double circle five. On #3 Paul and Glen both deuce it. :cool:

On #4 the basket is sitting in a postion on the slope of the hill, not in the usual cluster of cedars on the flat area. Glen drives along the fence line and disappears down the hill. Paul takes the conservative approach down the fairway. I decide to be daring and gun my drive over the baseball field. We're not sure if it made it, but upon walking down there, I am 10' inside the fence OB. I trudge back to the point where I went over the fence which was not all that far off the tee. Deciding that I want to see if I can do this, I again try and clear the field. I backed off a little, and didn't thow it as well, so it stalled and hyzered and was even worse than the first one. OB #2. :oNow I have to trudge all the way back to the corner and get another disc and try again. I was greeted with much laughter by my group. :D This time I simply go down the fairway and then figure the damage has been done, so I might as well go for the putt. Missed, lay-up and putt. Six throws, plus two penalty strokes for the double circle snowman! :D

Going into hole #6 Sabrina drops out. On #9 (the Horseshoe) I take a six, Paul fives, and Glen fours. By the way Glen is now sporting the very chic Pro Birdie putter. :cool:After #10 Glen bails out leaving Paul and I to finish up. We both close it out by deucing #12 :) as we both park our drives. Paul about 10' short, and me about 10' long.

Final Scores Were:
Paul-67
Hawk-71
Glen-DNF (52-16 holes. Estimated final score 59)
Sabrina-DNF (65-12 holes. Estimated final score 98)

Sabrina clearly has raw skills, and if she applied herself could become a player in the women's field in about six months. She actually outscored Paul on #'s 1 & 17. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :o

[md21954]

She actually outscored Paul on #'s 1 & 17. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :o

which holes did she outscore you? did she not outdrive you on both holes 16 and 17? :D

look out girlie! sabrina can bring it! :eek:

[md21954]

<font color="purple">PINE GROVE PAUL DEFEATS GLEN AT PG TOUR STOP!!! </font>

i'm still druhill paul though. i always try to cram pine grove in a lot during the weekdays leading up to the end of daylight savings. +13 is a few strokes worse than my avg out there.

[Dick]

The MD am tour extended fared well at ODS. The only problem was that for such a great event only 1.5 hours away from laurel there were very few MD's present! Girle finished second in adv. women with a fairly large field. kelly finished third in pro women and apparently is pregnant! and yes, THE DR of EVIL WINS ADV MASTERS AT A SUPERTOUR!!!
since i was involved in my own battle i don't have any highlights from the others, but i will describe my own.
First round was a venue change, i went in thinking we were starting on the sunny side of the grange, and it was switched last minute to the darkside. The grange darkside is a tight and twisted woods course mostly, somewhere netween paw paw and patapsco's woods holes. it DEMANDS being able to throw straight and keep it in the fairway. I was paired with charlie parker and hvnafit. i started by throwing an aviar down the alley of the first hole and immediately picked up a stroke. i told myself i was going to play it safe all day, but we know how those promises go. about halfway through i had a good lead on my group, but i everyone started to get into troubles off the beaten path. hvnafit, started having a fit around our 6th hole, and everyones play kind of went south. i was lucky to escape with a 64. jeff from the other group shoots a 63 to take the early lead. off to loriella.
at loriella i play much better. loriella is a nice combination of woods and open holes, and although the weather threatened and sprinkled a few times, the sprinkles seemed to happen when we were in the woods. charlie joined jeff and i and had a really bad round. i think his whining and throwing his disc like a madman distracted jeff more than i. i kept it together fairly well to shoot a respectable 63 from the longs. jeff shot a 72 and i think alot of it was due to charlie's rantings.
day 2 broke and we were at hawk hollow. i have a nice 8 stroke lead and am thinking i have this thing in the bag. hawk hollow is a really nice course, but is very difficult. it demand power on some holes and control on all of them. it was a bit breezy and cool and tough to do either. first 2-3 holes i go 3-2-3 and pick up 2 more strokes on jeff. hvnafit starts having a fit, throwing stuff and i have to tell him he can't do that. (he actually responds to this and controls himself the rest of the round and beats me!)then the wheels fall off the cart. i start hitton early trees, ob, and water piling up the stroke. on 2 holes i take a 6-5 while jeff takes a 3-3 and before long my lead is one. i pull it back together slightly to pick up 2 on him on our last 4 holes, but the very last hole i take an awful circle 5 on an easy 3 hole. luckily he takes 4 and i only give back one stroke.

final round is grange sunny side and i am nursing a 2 stroke lead. i see lindsay and tell her were just going to make the safe shots and let our opponents fold like a cheap chair! then i proceed to administer a lesson in doing that! using a roc and a putter, and the occaisional driver in the open, i have the best round i've had on the sunny side, shooting a 56. highlight was a great approach duece on number 11 long from over 80 feet. jeff shoots a 65 i think and i walk away with a 10 stroke win! then while waiting for the awards i shot my first tiki ace!
so now i have hanging at the evil hideout a nice new trophy plaque declaring me the ODS Advanced Masters CHAMPION!!! :cool:

[md21954]

congrats rich!

[hawkgammon]

which holes did she outscore you? did she not outdrive you on both holes 16 and 17?




To be honest she might have outscored me when I was trying to clear the baseball field. That was the only one she might have gotten me on. Yes her drives went further than mine on several occassions, but I at least hit trees. You on the other hand were the victim of several of the infamous Paul "power drives" that go off at 45+ degree angles enabling Sabrina to outgun you obstacle free.

[hawkgammon]

Geezer. :D

[Dick]

the ratings may be flawed but obviously not as much as paul's game. he hangs onto a disc like a crackhead hangs on to his pipe! let it go paul and it will go farther! or at least straighter! :D

[hawkgammon]

the ratings may be flawed



Rich appears to be correct on this. Consider the following in my head to head battles wiht Paul this year.

Paul wins by 7
Paul wins by 2
Hawk wins by 5
Hawk wins by 23
Hawk wins by 13
Tied
Hawk wins by 11

Average all that out, and I'm 3.3 strokes better than Paul when the pressure is on. However using the Craig formula he only gets two strokes more handicap per round. Therefore there should be a greater gap in our ratings than currently exist. :D

[md21954]

am tour stop, today, druhill, 4:30.

The real men played Rockburn this evening. B.B. and Glen moved some baskets. Short are: holez 1 and 2 and 6. the back: hole 10 is long to the right, 12 long on the right, 15 across the creek, 16 and 17 short. Thanks guyz, it was over due ;). P.S. i shot a 52 :eek: dueces on 6, 14 and 16, missed 12 :(

[md21954]

10/5 tour re-cap-- WHERE WAS EVERYBODY?

smokin' joe and i started on the back nine to avoid aerobie wielding families on the front.

after nine
paul - 30
joe - 30

joe bailed citing a rough night at the raven's MNF loss to the chefs. so i finished the front nine with local rock spreader extraordanaire rich.

front nince scores
paul - 25
rich - 31?

final scores
paul - 55
joe/rich - 61

[Sharky]

Not too bad a write up for a rookie. What digits for the others? What time are they locking the gate? Let's do it again today, say 4:00? Who's in?

[md21954]

tonight's thursday night triples draw will happen absolutely no later than 5:15 (sunset is listed for 6:39). the ace pot starts at $322. fitty fitty rule in full effect. metals of course.

weather should be splendid. let's see a big crowd!

[md21954]

10-7-04 TNT RECAP

22 people came out on a perfect cusp of fall evening. we drew promptly at 5:15 and finished with very little daylight. we'll likely finish in the dark next week, but hey, what do you do?

i paired in a foursome with lil angry man jake, newbie brad (who can really huck it for a two month long playa) and mark the shark. we were OK on the front and lost steam on the back. it was all in vain anyway because team deeballs/mickley/justin p took it with a smokin' -15 which would have won or tied for the past month or two. apparently the p in justin p stood for "putting machine" and deebo has had a change of heart since 9/30. what gives? i thought we were rid of that degenerate slime :eek: ;)

the ace pot survives another week and totals $330-something.

thought it was obvious but apparently not note: if you don't make the draw, you don't get to play. i won't just conveniently plop you into a nearby group. you also are ineligible to participate in the ace pot.

thanks everyone for coming out! see ya next week.

[md21954]

just announced... hot off the press...

NEW OB AT DRUID HILL!!!

as of the end of daylight savings time, the first of the three sisters ponds (next to holes 8 and 9) will be OB. if your disc lands ON the stone wall, it is in bounds, in the pond is OB. play the shot where it last crossed OB.

this move is being made to help preserve the fine landscaping the SBER has begun down there. those familiar with druid hill know it takes pretty severely errant shot to go in there (i've done it plenty). even if you could care less about the new landscaping, it still makes sense because if you went down there before the clearing started, you would likely have taken at least a stroke to get out anyway.

[hawkgammon]

So you're saying I have to be on time to play? :confused: Well someone's on a power trip! :eek:

[Sharky]

Paul perhaps it is already obvious but as an apostle of the obvious I will mention that anything over the wall will be OB (does not have to end up in the pond.)

Also word usage warning on cusp, nice word, nice try. :D

[md21954]

nice try? :confused:

[Sharky]

"22 people came out on a perfect cusp of fall evening."

Just does not pass the word usage "smell" test do I need to start a poll to prove that to you :confused:

[md21954]

if you want to be that much of a dweeb about it, go for it!

cusp: (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cusp) A transitional point or time, as between two astrological signs.

[hawkgammon]

He did have a good point though about the killing zone inside the wall down to the pond being clarified though. :D

[md21954]

maybe so, but i think it's pretty obvious the pond and the pond's landscaping was inclusive in my use of "the pond". afterall, we're not too concerned about folks going into the water to be to get discs or protecting the landscaping in the water.

i'll take that point, but my use of "cusp" was perfectly fine dammit!

[Sharky]

Paul just by omitting one article you show your ignorance, please just accept it, learn from it, and move on, do you need me to spell it out for you ?

[md21954]

please do. i stand by my use of "cusp"!

by making such a big deal out of this, you reveal your old age and inherent crankiness!

[Sharky]

OK, point taken, first packer fan and el'presidente comment on myself and lefty bickering like oldsters, now you, hmmmmmm.

22 people came out on a perfect cusp of a fall evening.

[md21954]

22 people came out on a perfect cusp of a fall evening.

you're kidding me right? i was an english minor mind you...

HAWK! where are we playing tomorrow? i propose a druhill tour stop. high noon.

[Sharky]

hawk a little help here please.

[Dick]

i'm gonna have to say paul has it closer than you, shark.
the evening was on the 'cusp of fall' he wasn't referring to the cusp of evening...i agree it doens't sound that good, but grammatically it was correct. :p

[Sharky]

Thanks evil, I get it now. Call off the dogs :D

[Dick]

arff arff :)

[hawkgammon]

Sorry I was out working. :D I have to side with Paul on the cusp debate.

Tomorrow's Tour Stop is at Calvert at high noon. Best place we've got to practice a Bluemont type course for the big showdown on the 17th. Playing from the red tees. If there is interest & time we'll go around again from the whites etc.

[md21954]

i ain't wasting a saturday driving to and fro calvert.

alternate tour stop at druid hill.

[hawkgammon]

It's all about freedom baby! ;)

[md21954]

freedom to waste time at calvert. i'll meet ya half way and do rockburn if you wish.

[hawkgammon]

Nope. I have a strategy here. :cool:A very successful one so far! ;) Enjoy Druid. Perhaps we'll meet on Sunday.

[md21954]

not likely unless you want to play super early. the in-laws are celebrating my b-day a week early :p

[hawkgammon]

the in-laws are celebrating my b-day a week early




Them, and a joyous nation. :D

[Dick]

calvert really isn't a 'bluemont type' course, hawk. unless you mean in terms of being a small course in a park. it's not nearly as tight and doesn't demand the turnover as much. if you want to practice for bluemont, them why not got to bluemont? if not, i would say pine grove is probably closer to bluemont type.

[Dick]

Suggestion: 1 or 2 disc format at calvert.

i can probably make it. keep in mind Terps game is at 3:30

[hawkgammon]

I cannot possibly explain to you the zen like thinking behind these selections.

I do however concur that tomorrow at Calvert we shall do a two disc Tour stop from the red tees. Bring one putter and one mid-range people. No cheating, and no whining Sherwood.

We might go around a second time from the whites with the bags if we are not running too late.

WAY to much gayity going on here. Paul, shark and Co. I'll be @ THE ROCK @ high noonish for an Am. Tour.


Are you man enough ?

[hawkgammon]

Well there you have it folks. Three choices for your discing entertainment. :cool:

[Dick]

hawk, i think i am going to go to rockburn instead. my dog likes it better and it will be good practice for CODORUS!!!

[Sharky]

Tough call but I'm going with our leader ;)
Silly two disc thing but i'm in and hawk will be toast :D

[md21954]

knowing that i approach with drivers 75% of the time, would that count?

[Sharky]

For me it is the champ aviar, and the stingray or flash. I just can't decide on that but am leaning towards the stingray, you making it down md1234?

[md21954]

ain't the flash (http://www.discndatonline.com/item.cfm?itemid=30131) a driver? i thought hawk said a putter and a mid-range. i don't ever use mid-ranges off the tee and i usually flick a driver for long up-shots and putters for everything else. two discs should mean any two discs.

i'm 50/50, but if you don't count a driver for me as a second disc, i'm definitly out.

[md21954]

druid, 10:30

[hawkgammon]

Two disc thing is discussable at Calvert if Evil bails. It was his idea after all. :p We might go full bag or some variation if Evil keeps his date with Ssssssssssssski.

[Sharky]

OK, whatever, you name the format, I will collect the win, how does that sound ?

[md21954]

statewide am tour stop results #1

glen takes paul by 10 strokes at druid from the long tees, x-holes included.

both start out with deuces on 1, glen deuces hole 2 whilst paul takes a nickel.

final scores

glen 82
paul a very muddy 92

[Dick]

statewide am tour stop results #2

ski hangs on for 3 stroke win, taking tag #16 with a 53
rich leads early but has to take a circle 5 on 10 and doinked a couple 10-15 foot putts on 2,8&14. for a 56 and gets #27

boyd hangs on for a 60? while still working through his injuries and gets #37

lexi had fun!

[Dick]

p.s. my heel seems to be getting worse, not better. i probably won't be playing until 10/23. if then. i may just ride up and help out with the payouts and scores...

[Sharky]

Tour stop numero uno was much fun too, hawk was effervescent after a round one thrashing of the shark, lefty, and packer fan, perhaps round two when I put him in his rightful place subdued him considerably! Come on hawk you still need to do a write up!

[hawkgammon]

OK, whatever, you name the format, I will collect the win, how does that sound ?



<font color="red">HAWK AGAIN DEFEATS MR. CALVERT AT HOME COURSE </font> :cool:

<font color="blue">Winner Graciously Allows Elderly Opponent Chance To Redeem Self </font> /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I apologize for the late posting, but Comcast is down at home. :eek: Four of us met down at Calvert at noon yesterday to play the full bag from the reds. This was the group preference, and since Dr. Evil failed to appear we went with the consensus.

Joining the Professor and myself was Brady, and the blossoming World Champion Kelly. Regardless of what Ski may think, I believe the real men were at Calvert enjoying the show. ;)

Things got off to a rough start for Mommy as she takes a circle five on #1. :mad:I managed a deuce on #3, and Kelly got into the swing of things by deucing #5 and #6. :cool:At this point Kelly and I were having trouble focusing on the match as we are enjoying the Professors struggles putting with the putter I sold him. :DShark and I managed to both miss the mando on #6 taking circle fives and fours respectively. :( Shark did make the mando on #1 despite my prediction of doom. Shark and I deuce #8, and Brady and I deuce #9.

Scores at the turn were:
Hawk-27
Lefty-27
Shark-28
Mommy-28

Shark deuces #10 while Brady and I deuce #12. It's a deucefest! :) Shark and I deuce #'s 15 &amp; 16 and I also collect #17. :D Just to make it interesting I take a circle 5 on #18 when my second shot sails over the basket and down the hill across the creek.

Scores on the back nine were:
Hawk-26 (53)
Shark-27 (55)
Lefty-28 (55)
Kelly-29 (57)

[hawkgammon]

<font color="blue">SHERWOOD COMES BACK SWINGING IN SECOND ROUND </font>

<font color="green">Wins Despised Two Disc Match-Up </font>

<font color="red">hawk and lefty stagger in tied for second </font>

With tears in his eyes, The Professor pleaded for a rematch. Being a kind Wreck King I granted his wish under the condition we do a limited disc round. The group decided on two discs of the players choosing. The selections were:

Hawk: 174g Pro Line Spider & 175g DX Aviar Putter :eek:
Shark: 166g Champion Stingray & 174g Champion Aviar (not the one I sold him /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif )
Lefty: 172g DX Eagle & 166g DX XD (doesn't Brady always just play with two discs :confused:)
Mommy: 156g Champion Edition :cool:Leopard & 169g DX Aviar Putter (she opted not to used the Challenger ;))

We once again set off from the red tees. Right out of the gate Shark and I deuce #1. Sherwood makes the #1 mando both times! :) Shark next deuces #3 using the world's only overstable Stingray both in the air and on the ground. His Gawler like trot-ups on the rollers are not to be missed. :DLeft, Shark and myself next deuce #5 and Shark also gets #6 as he and I both successfully navigate the double mando this time, but he to greater success. #'s 8 & 9 see the trio of myself, the Professor and the World Champ deucing both holes. :cool:

Scores after nine were:
Shark-23
Hawk-25
Lefty-26
Mommy-26

Making the turn things are quite until #12 when Brady and I collected the deuce. Shark deuces #13, and Mommy breaks through on #14. :cool:Shark and Lefty collect deuces on #15 and Mommy gets another on #16. The three guys deuce #17 to close out the days frenzy of twos.

Scores on the back nine were:
Shark-24 (47)
Lefty-24 (50)
Hawk-25 (50)
Mommy-28 (54)

Curiously everyone's scores went down using just the two discs vs. the whole bag on an the same layout.

[hawkgammon]

<font color="red"> MD AM TOUR CLOSES DOWN AGAIN </font>

You may notice that Tyra has disappeared. When I logged on this afternoon I had a PM from someone named Conrad informing me of numerous complaints about the cheescake/girlie avatars and that he had unilaterally removed my link. Curiously I recall when Jeff had the swinging boobs cartoon he posted his PM asking him to remove it. I guess Conrad is more a man of action than Jeff's penpal. Since I failed to receive the same courtesy as Jeff, I bid you all a fond farewell. The Maryland Am Tour now goes completely underground. It will not resurrect on any board anywhere. We will cross paths when we see each other on the courses. I will issue 2005 cards based on participation up to this point. After that, who knows. Ciao.

[Sharky]

Wow, that is too bad, talk about a thread kill :(

I wish your skin was a little thicker, or your principles a little more flexible

We will miss you on the bored, hawk we hardly knew yee /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Come on back anytime, we promise not to ask any questions /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :eek: :o

[md21954]

hawk, don't be a sissy!

[Dick]

hawk, let's not give up this easily. i say we all PM conrad and COMPLAIN . removing an avatar is just ridiculous, it's not like you can't TURN OFF THE OPTION TO VIEW THEM!!!

[md21954]

SAVE THE TOUR!!!

[Sharky]

It is a darn shame to lose the sensitive hawk due to questionable practices by the Board monitors. If Hawk's questionable/objectionable avatar situation had been handeled properly this probably would not have happened, and if he had not escalated the situation with his response we would not be without hawk, how very very sad :(

[md21954]

don't fret! THE TOUR WILL LIVE ON!

[discgeez]

It is a shame, but this is not the first time that Hawk has pulled the"I'm taking my disc's and going home" ploy :mad:

[Dick]

that may be, but i can definitely see him having a problem with not being even asked to remove it, or for that matter warned. Obviously Jeff L. was asked to remove one. if it was done that way, i wouldn't even have a problem with it, and would be calling hawk a crybaby. that is, if he had a problem with it. but i think he would have been ok with that.

[md21954]

i'll admit that i find hawk's avatars somewhat cheesey and a bit on the tasteless side, but very far from offensive :confused:

what kind of a tool would just delete it without asking the user to remove it first? is that the type of bombastic geek we need as a bored admin? we'll likely get the whole "it's a volunteer thing, take it easy" at some point. screw that. volunteer somewhere else or apologize and admit your error.

[Dick]

the worst part is his not replying to any PM's or emails. like he's better than us lowly PDGA members. He must be part of the PDGA elite tour players who are just better than us lowly am players. :o

[md21954]

he likes word games, puzzles and little boys. i think he forgot chardonnay and menthol ciggarettes as well :eek:

[hawkgammon]

I wish your skin was a little thicker, or your principles a little more flexible




People like you are called victims.


It is a shame, but this is not the first time that Hawk has pulled the"I'm taking my disc's and going home" ploy




If I was weak I would live in fear also. Perhaps if your club had handled the previous incident in the manner that this one was resolved, you'd still have a message board. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

The appropriate parties have apologized for what transpired. I appreciate Theo for being man enough to do so.


<font color="red"> Stand by for action. </font>

[md21954]

10/14/04 TNT at druid hill

sunset is early (6:28) and it might be cloudy so we are going to try to start at 5:15. that means draw 2-3 minutes prior.

[hawkgammon]

<font color="red">United States Disc Golf Championship </font>

14 John Gregory 7750 1002 65 1028 -3 65

68 Jim Myers 3396 999 70 999 +2 70

87 Patrick Pitts 10409 1006 72 988 +4 72

112 Dean Pfeifer 16938 978 74 976 +6 74

144 Bryan Gawler 12823 994 78 954 +10 78

166 Craig Gangloff 4010 1010 81 937 +13 81

[Dick]

IT'S A LONG HAUL TO THE END, BUT CRAIGER HAS A TOUGH ROAD TO HAUL... GO MD PLAYERS!

where's Jim?

[md21954]

22 players came out in beautiful fall weather for the 3rd to last druid hill TNT of the season. we started promptly at 5:15 and had fair daylight remaining when we finished, but we'll likely have to start a little earlier next week. be there by five to be safe.

team glen(4)/norm(IR3)/smokin' joe(3) won with a -14. no aces were hit.

with near 100% participation in the ace pot, it climbed to $361. payout starts next week at $181.

thanks for coming out.

[Dick]

did anyone notice jg showed up on monday and qualified. what a slacker! :D

[md21954]

slacker? what do you mean? so he wasn't able to pull it off at WVO or elsewhere so he went down there and is appearing to be kicking [*****]!

[Dick]

i mean that is typical JG. show up at the last minute, probably drank all night and got an hour of sleep, then easily qualifies and is kicking [*****].

[hawkgammon]

<font color="blue">Round Two </font>

21 John Gregory 7750 1002 65 1028 72 1008 +1 137

39 Patrick Pitts 10409 1006 72 988 69 1023 +5 141

51 Jim Myers 3396 999 70 999 72 1008 +6 142

118 Bryan Gawler 12823 994 78 954 74 999 +16 152

132 Dean Pfeifer 16938 978 74 976 81 965 +19 155

150 Craig Gangloff 4010 1010 81 937 78 979 +23 159

Those are some **** fine amateurs you have on your tour.
And I think everyone knows I do not speak of their physical appearance when I say "fine".

[hawkgammon]

Obviously you haven't seen Gangloff in a thong.

[hawkgammon]

Saturday-Goucher-Noon.

[hawkgammon]

<font color="red">HAWK DEFEATS PAUL IN 27 HOLE BLUEMONT TUNE-UP AT GOUCHER </font>

<font color="blue">Glen And Tom Edwards Join Stop After First Nine </font>

<font color="purple">first tour stop ace recorded! :cool: </font>

At high noon today Paul and I set off mano y mano for two rounds of Goucher. It was a typical Goucher nine with the threes piling up that left each of us feeling unsatisfied. Things got interesting on #4 when we both went long up the hill. Paul cleared the road and saved his three, but I ended up in the road for the circle four. :( On #7 Paul finds the road in a new way. He yanks his drive across the road safely onto the grass. His second shot hits a pole coming back across the street to the basket and plops into the road for a circle five. :mad:Paul (who today showed that while inconsistent from 20' is deadly from outside of 75' :D) nails a long putt on #9 for the first deuce of the day. :cool:

Scores after nine were:
Hawk-29
Paul-30

At this point we are joined by Gloin and Tom who had just completed an invigorating round at Pine Grove. :) On #2 Tom throws his standard chicken wing drive, and it hits the top of the basket, bounces up into the chains for the <font color="red"> ACE!!! :cool::cool::cool: </font> Glen's drive hit the base of the tree to the left of the basket, and rolls into the pin. :cool:Another great shot, but forgotten in Tom's glory. I manage to get my first deuce of the day on #4 :) while Glen takes the circle four route as I did the first time around by landing in the road. :( Moving onto hole 6 Glen joins the club of <font color="blue"> Manly Men Who Have Thrown Drivers Onto The Utility Buildings Roof </font> :mad:Circle four. Now Tom's drive hit the building right next to the stairs going down into the pit and scooted down into the pit. I was under the impression that this was OB, but not everyone agreed. Tom ended up taking a straight four off that, and we're looking to find out from Goucher Paul what the ruling is on that one. Tom finishes his first nine by deucing #'s 8 & 9. :D

Scores at this point are:
Tom-24
Hawk-26 (55)
Glen-28
Paul-28 (58)

Tom and Glen were going around one more time, and Paul was wanting to, and it's Goucher...it takes 40 minutes with four people, so why not? :D

I managed to get rolling right off at #1 by parking the red ProLine Spider two feet from the basket. :cool:Deuce! Then I drive the red Champion Spider into the corral on #3 for another deuce. :D Glen then announces he has lost the will to play as I am defeating him. :DHowever he regains the spirit after deucing #5. Then things went horribly awry for me and to a lesser degree for Tom. On #6 Tom's second shot goes up the hill past the basket, and down the other side. He's left with a blind third shot to the basket. He throws his putter upside down and slides to within 4' :cool:to save his four. My second shot ended up 20' to the left of the basket and down the hill. I had been bouncing several putts off metal all day, so naturally I did the same here :o, and we all watched gleefully as my putter rolled back past me and down the hill twice as far as from where I had putted from. Lay-up and in for a five. :(

Scores for this nine were:
Glen-26 (54)
Tom-28 (52)
Hawk-28 (54) <font color="red">(83) </font>
Paul-28 (56) <font color="blue"> (86) </font>

One final note. We found a student ID belonging to Alexandra E. An exotic looking beauty with dark hair and eyes. I would put her in the naughty librarian category. We're working to return her ID in exchange for some swimwear photos. ;)

[hawkgammon]

<font color="green">USDGC Third Round </font>

27 John Gregory 65 72 75 +8 212

73 Jim Myers 70 72 81 +19 223
73 Patrick Pitts 72 69 82 +19 223

127 Bryan Gawler 78 74 82 +30 234

137 Dean Pfeifer 74 81 81 +32 236

142 Craig Gangloff 81 78 79 +34 238

[Sharky]

Tough day for the Maryland disc golf heros yesterday :eek:

Today should be sweet,
looking for a strong finish from team Maryland :cool:

The Shark Tour (Maryland Am Tour splinter group) will be rolling into patap at high noon today. Come on out and see if you have what it takes to compete in that venue all you tourists who will not be at the bleau monte stop today :p

[md21954]

congratulations glen for winning the bluemont c-tier open division!

congratulations hawk for winning intermediate.

i was one stroke off hawkgayman after round one then fell apart in the second round. :(

fun little course. night and day difference in rounds.

[hawkgammon]

Congrats to Glen! :cool:

Thanks Paul. Obviously you were nervous in the presence of my greatness. ;) If I opt for Advanced Masters next year you won't have to endure that as much. :)

[hawkgammon]

<font color="blue"> USDGC Final Results </font>

43 Patrick Pitts 72 69 82 62 +13 285

43 John Gregory 65 72 75 73 +13 285

70 Jim Myers 70 72 81 69 +20 292

120 Craig Gangloff 81 78 79 67 +33 305

129 Bryan Gawler 78 74 82 73 +35 307

137 Dean Pfeifer 74 81 81 76 +40 312

[Sharky]

Shark Tourstop results:

Patapsco is playing great, myself, lefty, and the geezer had a nice little round from the tips. We started on the back and I struggeled some with the putting but was only down 3 at the break to the consistent TT.

Scores after holes 10-18 : Shark 34, TT 31, Lefty 39.

On the front I picked up two on TT on hole 1 and the race was on. TT and I both birded 3 and lefty just missed his makeable bird op. On hole 4 TT posted an impressive 3 with the pin in the back position, I had a roady circle 5. On hole 9 I got the three, TT stumbled in with a nickel to allow me to catch him, but not his tag.
Holes 1 -9: Shark 33, TT 36, Lefty 39
Final: Shark 67, TT 67, Lefty 78.

Lefty vowed to take a liquid lunch to ease the pain! (Kidding)

Patapsco is still a great course and the playability is excellent. A big thanks to whoever (Justin?) is mowing the fairways!

Glen way to leave the State and represent!, Hawk whatever

[md21954]

i'm going to be cutting it close for TNT tomorrow due to a meeting in owings mills. you should plan to get there by five to be safe.

i might enlist someone to collect $ and minis prior to my arrival.

[hawkgammon]

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Make it Beautiful Day!
in Druid Hill Park

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Fall planting, park cleanup, invasive plant removal, etc.
at the 3 sisters ponds!

Saturday, October 23, 2004
8:00 registration Site work from 9 – 1
Lunch and music on site!
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[Dick]

i'll be at tour north in codorus! see everyone there! :D

[hawkgammon]

As will I. I posted this info for those who are afraid of competing with us. They can toil for our benefit at Druid instead! :)

[md21954]

10-21 thursday night triples at druid hill alert---

tonight's draw will happen shortly after five (sunset is listed for 6:18, so we need to get things moving). we'll start no later than 5:10.

i'm going to be pushing getting there on time myself.

[Dick]

good luck with that. how do you plan on finishing in one hour? :)

[hawkgammon]

One disc, and everyone jogs from throw to throw. Anyone passed is penalized a stroke. :cool:

[Dick]

it's a good idea to be ready to run at druid anyway. and if you hear gunfire, stop-drop and roll!

[md21954]

good luck with that. how do you plan on finishing in one hour? :)

nice one, wisea$s.

though sunset is listed for 6:18, you ought to know full well that you can see well enough to play up till 6:40. with fewer people being able to make it out, playing from the metals, a lot of baskets in short, and spacing out the teams, we move quick and usually can finish in 1.5 hrs. the last few TNT's usually finish just as it is getting dark. playoffs might be tough, but fewer teams makes that less likely.

cya next week. draw five-ish.

[Sharky]

Thanks for explaining that to the clueless Paul. We had no problem getting it in.

[Dick]

not clueless, but obviously a pessimist. guess i am a natural red sox fan, eh? after they beat the yankees i'm adopting them as my team, since i haven't had a team since the sens split years ago...

[md21954]

i propose a sunday druid tour stop, 10:30 (early enough to watch the ravens game). once from the metals, then once from the woods. i think everything will be in short.

[hawkgammon]

Since I'm playing Saturday, I think I may take Sunday off, but I may see you out there.

[Dick]

Hawk celebrates lack of gators, though i'm sure there will be some in FL! :)

Lindsay wins am women. Gump takes cash(30$)! PA's newest pro!
steve Maerz wins pro. linc morgan and john light take masters and geezers.

fun was had by most everyone! Thanks Jay and CLint!

[hawkgammon]

The Rich & Hawk Roadshow rolled into Codorus today with differing results. The good doctor was hot winning Advanced Masters in a walkover :cool:, and he would have won Advanced by three strokes over Paul W. if he wasn't such a quasi geriatric sissy and playing Masters :eek:. Meanwhile I had my third bad outing in Hanover losing my driver :( and doinking a bakers dozen worth of putts off :mad:the ironically named Discatchers. I did get to play the second round with Service who started the round one stroke behind me, and finished one stroke ahead of me...the bastard. :p Oh well, back to intermediate! :D

In other news the gnome opted to play Open, and staggered in DFL. :confused: His arch nemesis the Gumpster finished I believe fourth in open :) and took the ca$h meaning he's no longer one of us. :D

Sherwood finished DFL in the Grandfather's division, one stroke behind TT.

Ms. Lindsay won the Advanced babe category over Rhonda.

[md21954]

<font color="red">GLEN WINS 10-24 DRUID HILL TOUR STOP </font>

<font color="orange"> PAUL DEFEATS HAWK BY 7 STROKES </font>

<font color="yellow"> HAWK SETS RECORD FOR NUMBER OF SORRY EXCUSES SET DURING SINGLE ROUND AT EIGHTEEN! </font>
:eek:

glen, hawk and paul tee'd off about 11am on a soggy druid hill course from the metal tees. paul deuced as the others took threes. the next deuce for anyone didn't come until we all deuced hole nine.

scores after nine:
paul 25
glen 26
hawk 29 :eek:

paul held the tee from hole one until hole eleven where glen deuced on a 60+ footer. that was the spark of glen's afterburners as he owned the back nine.

back nine scores

glen 22
paul 27
hawk 30 :eek:

final scores:

glen 48
paul 52
hawk 59 :eek:

<font color="purple"> HOW BOUT DEM RAVENS? </font>

[hawkgammon]

Well it was nice to at least be able to watch the game for once! :) I'm thinking of organizing future Tour stops into one day affairs each weekend instead of trying to plan one each Saturday and Sunday. During football season I think Saturdays would be preferrable, and we'd play two rounds so there's no net loss of disc action to you the Tour participant! :cool:

[md21954]

I'm thinking of organizing future Tour stops into one day affairs each weekend instead of trying to plan one each Saturday and Sunday.

sounds like a tad too much "organization" for the tour if you ask me ;)

[hawkgammon]

There's no obligation to stay for both rounds, or to even show. I know I'm not going to try and cram a round in each weekend day anymore.

[md21954]

you sound bitter. remember hawk, it was only a tour stop /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

there is never an obligation to show, or play both rounds.

druid today? fourish?

[hawkgammon]

Vs. Doughboy:

Hawk: 5-0-1 Head to Head Tourney Record Since March.
Hawk: 2 Pdga Wins vs. 0.
Hawk: 879 vs. 861.

Your inability to learn to shut your mouth is astounding. When will you stop making a buffoon of yourself? Ah you can't! :D

[md21954]

yep! definitly bitter.

[hawkgammon]

Not at all. Simply saddened at your desperate need to claim any victory regardless of how small Mr. Two Time Patapsco Ice Bowl Intermediate Champion. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Dick]

i forsee a big INT division at the patapsco ice bowl ;)

[hawkgammon]

Oh I think that's probably a given! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[md21954]

bring it!

[hawkgammon]

It's been brought repeatedly this year, and you've taken it like one of those guys in prison who starts knotting his shirt at his sternum that you can buy for a pack of cigs. :D

Your only hope is our general disinterest in playing 27 Ice Bowls, and a willingness to let you cling to the last shred of your "dignity." /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[girlie]

Hey Paul,

Did Hawk tell you that I beat him during the second round of the Codorus tourney this past Saturday? Sure he took the overall, but come on! I even challenged him prior to the start of the second round - telling him I was going to whoop him! :eek: :D

:D

[hawkgammon]

And hence she won her division :cool:whereas I was left to meeting the lovely Sarah and accurately recording Mr. Crump's victory comments.

[md21954]

Hey Paul,

Did Hawk tell you that I beat him during the second round of the Codorus tourney this past Saturday? Sure he took the overall, but come on! I even challenged him prior to the start of the second round - telling him I was going to whoop him! :eek: :D

:D

no wonder he was so cranky sunday morning ;)

it's funny how aggressive his rhetoric becomes coming off a loss (see post detailing my seven stroke win on sunday). he doesn't take getting beat very well. he usually addresses it with sorry excuses, accusations of pencil whipping, and other "remember whens". i'm sure he'll follow this post up with something to distract from our last meeting.

[hawkgammon]

Yawn. :D

[girlie]

no wonder he was so cranky sunday morning

it's funny how aggressive his rhetoric becomes coming off a loss



:D

You do have a small point there, but I think his ability to pay up after a loss instead of revert to the "check is in the mail" routine does make up for a good bit of it. :D :o/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D:cool:

[md21954]

tour stop today, druhill, 4 o'clock sharp. i'll be taking the four tag from the sharkster which i'm surely going to deliver right back to g-loin h in short order.

[md21954]

let's celebrate/mourn the last weekday of daylight savings time '04 with an am tour stop this friday at the rock!

4 o'clock start time.

[hawkgammon]

Now that's early planning!

Well then:

<font color="blue">Saturday Tour Stop At Calvert @ 1000! :eek: </font>

<font color="orange">Two Rounds Of Action! :cool: </font>

<font color="green"> Round One Will Be A Roller War From The <font color="red"> Red </font>Tees. </font>

Your drive must be either a backhand or forehand roller off the tee! Stand by for hilarity!!!

<font color="purple">Round Two Will Be A Conventional Round From The <font color="blue"> Blue </font> Tees Immediately Following Round One. </font>

[md21954]

sounds like fun!

unfortunately, i have family coming for an early dinner on saturday and will be unable to make it. normally, i would shirk the housecleaning and cooking duties to the GF and go disc golfing, but this is my family and that would be highly innapropriate.

[hawkgammon]

Besides they might cut you out of the will. ;)

[Dick]

i might be in for friday afternoon at the rock! i may also be there for the roller war. it should really insure some fun. i would suggest calvert rather than druid, as druid is tough to throw a roller, especially from every hole.think roller on hole 6. not that i haven't tried it!

your call though. let the hilarity begin! :D

[hawkgammon]

Excuse me but aren't you suppossed to be resting? :D

Excellent point about Druid and rolling though. Okay Sherwood we're coming down to Calvert instead.

The appropriate corrections have been made to the announcement.

[md21954]

lame!

there's nothing hilarious about rollers only at calvert! a roller on six at the hill would be fun!

[hawkgammon]

Obviously you haven't seen me try to roll before. Remember it's about practicing not conducting a demolition derby.

[md21954]

also, what happens if you try a roller, but it doesn't roll?

this has happened to me on 18A at druid while trying to learn a roller. back when i had my prized rolling leopard, i would throw a huge sky roller that would land on the left of the tree in front of the short pin and roll there every time. then i lost the roller, and have tried it again and again to no avail, but the shot wouldn't work out all that bad. it'd be a big annie that wound up between the big pine and and 18C more often than not. :confused:

a stroke penalty and re-throw if your disc doesn't roll?

[md21954]

do tournament rolls count?

[Dick]

calvert would be less walking for me also. and besides, why go to druid without mr. druid@3:45? ;)

[md21954]

calvert would be less walking for me also. and besides, why go to druid without mr. druid@3:45? ;)


druid @ 3:45 days are almost upon us :(

[hawkgammon]

also, what happens if you try a roller, but it doesn't roll?




I have actually considered that, and if the roller fails, then I'm thinking it's up to the group to decide if it was a legitimate try that went awry, or a disguised air shot. Either way I think it's simply a matter of write up abuse at that point. Remember nothing is actually at stake here.


do tournament rolls count?



I've only ever rolled in one tourney a couple of times. This years Mid-Atlantic. I've probably only rolled a dozen times or so at Tour stops. Hence the interest in practicing.

roller war!!!...are all combatants welcome? :D

[hawkgammon]

Everyone except bearded left handers. ;)

:eek: :confused: (i still have to putt)

[md21954]

<font color="red"> SHARK DOMINATES MONDAY AFTERNOON TOUR STOP TO DEFEND COVETED #4 TAG </font>

<font color="blue">THREE DRUID LOCALS COME UP SHORT </font>

final scores--

shark 47
glen 48
jim b 55
paul 57

next major tour stop is this friday at the rock, 4pm, to celebrate the last weekday before daylight savings ends.

will hawk be man enough to play? :eek:

[hawkgammon]

Like you don't already know that I can't get off work early Mr. Druid@3:45. Besides I'll probably be here later than normal on Friday since I'm off to Florida next week.

[Dick]

i'm going to be there. takin off 2 fridays in a row. wooo hooo :D

[md21954]

we should have a decent turnout. so far sharky, glen, you, me are in. jim b is a maybe and i'll bet the normal roc crew of bb, service and felty will likely make it.

[Sharky]

I wonder if we will have to deal with goblins, when do the hay rides start :confused:

[md21954]

good point. i just talked to BB and he said it shouldn't be an issue. FYI... there are hay rides over the weekend though so it's probably in your best interest to avoid the rock saturday and sunday.

AM TOUR STOP, FRIDAY, AT THE ROCK, 4 O'CLOCK

[md21954]

see if you can defend that four tag again this time!

<font color="666666">MUWHAAAAAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHA!!! </font>