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Dec 11 2003, 03:06 PM
Could I get some info from anyone about the X-step...some diagrams, explaination, have heard alot about it, but not sure if I have the step correct...Thanks

Dec 11 2003, 03:13 PM
http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources/articles/distancesecrets.shtml

Dec 11 2003, 03:14 PM
malibu, I clicked to that addy but it isnt running, any other sites...???

Dec 11 2003, 03:15 PM
try it again, its weird. sometimes it doesnt work, and then a few minutes later it does.

idahojon
Dec 11 2003, 03:35 PM
You may want to drop a line directly to Dave D. at Innova in California. He had some pretty spiffy illustrated charts made that explain the X-Step, Backhand and Forehand Drives, and Backhand Rollers. He's made them available for us to use as part of the EDGE curriculum, but I'm not sure what the availability is to the general public, at this point.

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Dec 11 2003, 07:09 PM
dude. those charts would be AWESOME to look at. ill send him a message...

Dec 11 2003, 08:18 PM
right handed thrower, 3-step x-step:

1. Right foot forward. At this point you are sideways on the tee, and your shoulders are on line with where you want to throw.

2. Left foot steps behind your right, and your back is facing the target. Reach back with your throwing hand

3. Right foot steps again and your entire body spins. Your arm is a whip. When you release your shoulders are again in-line with where you want to throw.

4. Follow through.

Dec 12 2003, 01:20 PM
Right on!! thanks for the Info, and if Dave D. @ Innova happens to read this post or gets malibu's request maybe he could send them my way ;)

Dec 12 2003, 08:26 PM
Every time I try the X-Step...my mechanics get all screwed up, and I end up tripping over my feet, and falling down. The disc usually ends up in the woods...or once, behind me. :o

Dec 12 2003, 09:24 PM
I tried it out today, and didnt do too well...but that may have had to do with 32 degree temps and 20 mile an hour wind gusts...man...whats with the east coast...all this cold weather makes a man wanna move back to sunny california

spartan
Dec 16 2003, 01:12 PM
the easiest way to start the X-step is to try it without a disc in your hand. Start the motion slow and work up to a faster moving x-step. Then start swinging your arm in the motion of your disc golf swing, still without a disc in hand. Once you can do the X-step without having to think of it, grab a disc and go out to the practice field and start getting your consitancey down. Someone helped me with this and this was the best way I got it down without going out to the course and frustrating myself even more. All said and done, I am not grounding-out my disc 60ft infront of me and getting more consistant with power/accuracy. Now, if someone can help my putting. Anyone know how to get a hold of Dr. Rick or Todd Branch?

:p

boru
Dec 16 2003, 02:24 PM
Seems like you've been playing quite a bit longer than me, so I hesitate to offer advice, but . . .

I've drastically improved my putting in the last few weeks. Here's what worked for me: 1. Pick a style. I chose the one on http://www.discgolfreview.com, but have also been toying around with more of a push-putt style. Both have their merits. 2. Pick a spot. Make your target very small, like the link of a chain, and focus on it intently. 3. Set your body. Get everything - your stance, your grip, etc. - set how you like it. Then forget it. 4. Set your mind. Think only of nailing that one spot you picked. Picture the disc hitting again and again, until it seems like the natural thing for it to do. (I'm not 100% sold on this part of the process. You certainly want to focus your mind, but making a target as small as one link might not always be the best thing to do. I played some glow golf recently, and you could barely make out the basket, let alone a single link of chain. All I thought about was making my disc go to the point in space where the basket seemed to be, and I made putts I don't normally. The same night, we had a basket set up in semi-light for practicing. I was really surprising myself, hitting pretty much everything from within 25 feet, and sinking a decent number from well outside 50. This was after a few beers, so my mental process was simple, to say the least. I really wasn't thinking anything, just looking at the basket and throwing. The next day, I had my game face on again, focusing and setting up for every putt. I wasn't half as good as I'd been at night.) 4. Practice. This is key, because it builds confidence. I don't have a basket or a yard, so I stuck a piece of tape on the back of a camping chair and throw at that from different places in my apartment.

I guess the biggest element by far is confidence. Everything else - the disc, the style, the mental preparation - is secondary. Just go with what feels best. What really matters is that you're 100% sure that shot will go in, even at distances where the chance is very slim.

Sorry if that's all old news, but it's really helped me lately.

jdavidson
Dec 16 2003, 06:58 PM
My biggest struggle with the X-Step initially was, like most who first try to learn, the footwork. I actually had begun to cash as a pro but had never learned the X-Step. Golfers much shorter than me with short armspans were killing me off the T. It was after a B-tier a couple years ago that Paul Kreke confronted me on my ugly throwing form. I told him of the problems I had been having with the footwork. What he suggested worked for me and may work for some of you........

To get the natural feel of the left foot behind right foot step, try doing crossover steps while going sideways (left behind right, right behind left) (Some might say shuffling), it is a very common footwork exercise in most sports. This is much more natural and many of us have done this exercise in Ball Sport practices. Now to make the transition, begin planting your right foot and throwing somewhere in the sequence. This will help engrain the left behind right, then right in front of left footwork.

Dec 16 2003, 09:51 PM
thanks to everyone for the advice...I wish I could say that I have been out practicing, but 6" of snow 2 weeks in a row have cut down on my practice time...but santa got me a ticket to santa cruz for christmas...look out De La, San Fran, helyer, here I come 5 days of glorious disc golf weather. OH...and Ganz, better bring more than one towel, i think that you might need one for the tears of DEFEAT!!! :p :p :p

steveganz
Dec 17 2003, 01:46 AM
Bring it! :D

magilla
Dec 18 2003, 10:48 PM
thanks to everyone for the advice...I wish I could say that I have been out practicing, but 6" of snow 2 weeks in a row have cut down on my practice time...but santa got me a ticket to santa cruz for christmas...look out De La, San Fran, helyer, here I come 5 days of glorious disc golf weather. OH...and Ganz, better bring more than one towel, i think that you might need one for the tears of DEFEAT!!! :p :p :p



Today in NorCal (Wine Country Edition) it was a nice 67 degrees with a low of 31. Mostly Sunny... :cool:

boru
Dec 19 2003, 05:06 PM
Today in NorCal (Wine Country Edition) it was a nice 67 degrees with a low of 31. Mostly Sunny... :cool:



Yeah, our winter lows are about 67 too. I played at night last week, and with the addition of wind and rain, it was almost too cold for shorts and no sleeves. Right now it's 77.

I should note that the all-time record low in Honolulu is 53, the high, 94.