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Apr 19 2003, 11:32 PM
Anybody know where Worlds is next year?
I might actually join and try to qualify.

keithjohnson
Apr 20 2003, 12:46 AM
combined pro and am worlds in des moines,iowa

rhett
Apr 20 2003, 12:26 PM
what a great email to get this morning. Megan was just telling me, last night, that all Worlds' should be combined.

Any way they can add Junior Worlds in there, too? Ryan got to play in a 22 dude field in Michigan in <16. I think the fact that all the pros and all the ams combined can bring their kids really helps flesh out the field for the kids.

Apr 20 2003, 02:25 PM
Is that confirmed?

Apr 20 2003, 02:43 PM
That is not confirmed. The DM club approved a vote to take on both world championships, but the pdga has not given it to them yet. Flagstaff is also interested, but may back off to 2005 if DM takes 2004.

ck34
Apr 20 2003, 02:57 PM
This is a quote in the [PDGA-Announce] email yesterday from Terry Calhoun, PDGA Board member. I'm not sure what could be more official.

"Team Des Moines" has been awarded the joint Pro and Am PDGA Worlds for 2004.

terrycalhoun
Apr 20 2003, 03:44 PM
It's official, otherwise they wouldn't have let me send that email! I tried to post it here last night, as well, but had some technical difficulties with my new laptop.

The Des Moines club will host both Pro and Am Worlds in 2004. The Board was very impressed with their bid, and with Becky Zalleck's presentation at the Summit. Those folks are really organized, with budget and format planning way ahead of what we are used to seeing - the kind of thing we hope to expect in future bids!

The club has early cooperation evident already from the city, chamber of commerce, local tv and print media, etc., and they've got something like 17 courses within 30 minutes' drive of each other.

jeffash
Apr 20 2003, 06:01 PM
That's going to make it hard to play in both./clipart/proud.gif

rhett
Apr 20 2003, 06:21 PM
Are the dates set? I can't find it anywhere. It makes a big difference as to whether I try to get them to include Junior Worlds or not.

Apr 20 2003, 07:19 PM
this sounds great!!! now me and my am buddy can split a room at worlds, our wives can come too, he can play am and i can play open, this is frickin awesome!!!!

jeffash
Apr 20 2003, 08:07 PM
If he's an Am player and is staying with a Pro- He needs to move up./clipart/proud.gif
e-mail me TK so we can talk Powerball!!
I tried to get you at the address on your profile, but no luck

Apr 20 2003, 08:31 PM
Rhett, I'm with you in trying to get the juniors to included.

Apr 20 2003, 10:24 PM
tfkocurek@yahoo.com

keithjohnson
Apr 20 2003, 10:52 PM
By Clue on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 11:43 am:
That is not confirmed. The DM club approved a vote to take on both world championships, but the pdga has not given it to them yet.


clue,clue,clue........when are you gonna learn that i know a hellllll of a lot more about disc golf than you do? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

i wouldn't have answered him if i hadn't received terry's email...becky did not mention it when she was here but i imagine that an approach was made from one side or the other(pdga) since there was no am bid...i'm sure the pdga did NOT want to go thru what happened last year for pro worlds not coming together till the last minute...

at least one bright spot with combined there is if the courses are all close i may get to see the flymart before they are turning the lights off /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Apr 21 2003, 06:42 AM
keith wrote:
at least one bright spot with combined there is if the courses are all close i may get to see the flymart before they are turning the lights off

or if it's like the last combined worlds, maybe not.

Apr 21 2003, 08:32 AM
I'll tell ya, I can't wait to have all you guys in my backyard so we can put some faces to names. I'm going to be running around snapping photo's and doing interviews for discgolferusa.com (since my chance for qualifying is pretty much shot), so I should be easy to spot. Not that anyone who has met me could EVER have trouble spotting me in a crowd. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Heck, I'm probably going to end up being a TD if Becky has her way. As for the week of Worlds, I'm trying to remember. I think we are planning on August 8 - 14.

Apr 21 2003, 08:57 AM
Speaking of Des Moines, last week BeckyZ got over 50 trees donated from a local nursery, and the Club installed them at Ewing Park this weekend.

Amazing.

jackinkc
Apr 21 2003, 11:02 AM
I am looking so forward to playing the Des Moines courses, do you know which courses are going to be added on? I was already planning on heading up to play in the Pro Worlds, by waiting list, I am sure /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif but now I might have to think about playing the Am Worlds in my mom's backyard.

This is great, but I am curious as to what courses you will be using to add on. Newton?-too far away?-Indianola?-JK's home course?-Ames? Altoona? Madrid-/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Which brings up the old Iowa 12-15 hole disc golf courses, do you need extra baskets to create the 18 hole experience?

I am so looking forward to spending my summer vacation next year in my mom's living room in Des Moines. What a great use of vacation time! At least my mom will be happy to see.....well my daughter!
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rhett
Apr 21 2003, 11:52 AM
August 8-14? Noooooooooooooooo! Before the 6th!

Oh well, the whole family should be there regardless. This is going to be great! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

bruce_brakel
Apr 21 2003, 11:57 AM
Are there any other parents and junior organizers out there who would like to see a combined Pro- Am-JUNIOR Worlds in Iowa in 2004?

The Waterford Junior Girls Club is heading to Peoria this fall, but going to Iowa next summer would be maximum fun!

<FONT COLOR="ffffff">Don't even ask me what I think about Canada right now!</FONT>

bigchiz
Apr 21 2003, 12:14 PM
I'm for adding Jr to the Pro-Am line-up.

Apr 21 2003, 01:04 PM
Ok, take this all with a grain of salt, because I don't think we have a final decision yet, but here are the proposed courses:

Big Creek
Ewing
Grandview
Walnut Ridge

Additions and possibilities:
Ewing II (27 hole course across road in other half of park)
Pickard
Moffitt Resvoir (27 hole course)

Ewing II is pretty much a given. The other course is still being hashed out.

Again, this is all from memory, but this is pretty close. If memory serves Pro's wouldn't play grandview, and Am's would miss Big Creek.

I hope I don't get struck down by lightning for saying all this. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

jackinkc
Apr 21 2003, 01:26 PM
SO no real travel involved. That is pretty cool. Since I have yet to play Big Creek, I will reserve my comment until after the Challenge!
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jackinkc
Apr 21 2003, 01:33 PM
Moffitt Reservoir? I just realized I have no idea of where htat is.... new course?

jeffash
Apr 21 2003, 01:42 PM
I think Htat (http://opie.phpwebhosting.com/~joepet/word/wordht/htat.html) is near Iowa City./clipart/wink.gif

Apr 21 2003, 01:53 PM
Count us in Bruce!

jackinkc
Apr 21 2003, 01:57 PM
Negative, I know it is along the Raccoon river from my searching the internet, but I knew of nothing involing a course. The Raccoon goes through quite a bit, so I am guessing that it is close to Ames, but not real sure. I was just wondering, because I did not know about a new course up there.

Also when is the new Ewing going in. You guys are awesome baby!

specialk
Apr 21 2003, 01:59 PM
Moffitt Res. is on the SW side of West Des Moines just west of I-35. No permanent course there but has been the site of a temp course about 10(?) years ago.

Please note that we are currently in the brainstorming phase and nothing discussed here has been finalized.

jeffash
Apr 21 2003, 01:59 PM
I was just being a smart (dumb?) ash./clipart/proud.gif

Apr 21 2003, 02:25 PM
Thanks Steve. I did say 'I don't think we have a final decision yet'.

Not sure when these are going to go in. Again it's still pretty early in the game. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

jackinkc
Apr 21 2003, 02:39 PM
I thought that was the case, over by the new housing area, the richlands just north of highway 5, correct? I remember hearing something about the course, and we drove and drove looking for it about 6 years ago when I was visitin g my mom from Chicago.

I realize that nothing is truly finalized, and I am eager to get to know what courses are being thought of. No need to trump the cards yet!

I have to get ready for our small number of guests myself. Very good to hear that you guys accepted the oppt to do both. I know that the people of Iowa will do everything they can to make it a great event!

Any way to incorporate one of the towns with a RagBrai night? Or is this too late after Ragbrai to think about?

Am I obnoxious or what?

Keep up the good work!
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keithjohnson
Apr 21 2003, 03:24 PM
By john biscoe on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 03:42 am:
keith wrote:
at least one bright spot with combined there is if the courses are all close i may get to see the flymart before they are turning the lights off

or if it's like the last combined worlds, maybe not.


that was my point /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif...since the courses are close to each other and tourney central i won't need to drive 1 hour on the expressway back to the hotel or just drive over to the "tent" after finishing the round after 8 pm

thanks for catching the joke john /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

jeffnichols
Apr 21 2003, 04:29 PM
Pro-Am-Jr worlds at the same time/place in 2004? That would be great! I've often hoped the various worlds would be combined again so my boys and I could all play at the same major.

Count me in for 1 pro master, 1 jr (under 16) and 1 jr (under 19). Iowa sounds like a great place for disc golf!

rhett
Apr 21 2003, 04:40 PM
Jeff, tell Max that his disc golf video is awesome! I don't know that we can host a 40 meg file on the server, but I'll try and figure something out.

Apr 21 2003, 08:35 PM
Since this is all rumors anyway, how about the new Ames course and using the then 2 Ames courses. I'm guessing they are way closer to Walnut and Big Crack than Moffitt.

And Keith, Becky had written me stating that she didn't want anyone talking about the possibility of Am worlds just a few days before this came up. In fact a thread in which I asked the question on the DM website was deleted. That's why I said nothing was definite, but alas you are way further in the loop than us mere mortals.

keithjohnson
Apr 22 2003, 12:39 AM
thanks for finally admitting the truth /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

by the way what are you doing may17-18?
i have something else stunning that i know of that you might want to know about /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Apr 22 2003, 01:06 PM
"Since this is all rumors anyway, how about the new Ames course and using the then 2 Ames courses. I'm guessing they are way closer to Walnut and Big Crack than Moffitt. "

Not really. You have to think from the host hotel It's a 20 min drive at most to moffitt. From those other courses it still only adds another 10 mins or so to the drive. Ames is still over 40 mins. Pickard on the other hand would be closer to 45 mins as well. The bypass helps that out some, but I can go from West Des Moines to Ewing in 25 mins on the bypass. So another 15 mins to Indianola isn't actually that hard to imagine.

Apr 22 2003, 01:13 PM
Jack Wrote:
"Which brings up the old Iowa 12-15 hole disc golf courses, do you need extra baskets to create the 18 hole experience? "

You need to stop playing Lion's Park and Heritage my friend. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Actually I think baskets are covered. The nice thing is that they are letting us put in permanent sleeves at Ewing II. It should be only a little push in the right direction to allow us to put in a perm course after all this. Keeping our fingers crossed.

tanner
Apr 22 2003, 01:33 PM
Are you saying you may have 2 courses in at Ewing? Wow! Is this Heaven?

discette
Apr 22 2003, 02:35 PM
No, It's Iowa (http://www.traveliowa.com/),or...IoWa (http://www.fieldofdreamsmoviesite.com/), or maybe...IOWA (http://www.fieldofdreamsmoviesite.com/distance.html),

discette
Apr 22 2003, 02:41 PM
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

terrilldisc
Apr 22 2003, 11:53 PM
Watch out in Iowa, I ended up getting married there, but I'm happy being back in the south. Where the true golf world runs year round with out falling on your arse from the ice and snow.
Its a great place to visit but when fall rolls around run

Apr 22 2003, 11:53 PM
Actually, Ewing II is not in yet but we have permission to design and place ground sleeves for either an 18 or 27-hole temporary course across from Ewing. As Jason stated, it is possible we could convince the City of DSM that we need another 18 or 27 holes on a permanent basis, going forward. Hmmmm. Bottom line is that Ewing II will be the fifth Worlds course. Its a no-brainer based on the quality of the area being offered. Trust me, it is SWEET and you can bet we will be making a case for permanent Ewing II after the Championships. We have several options for a sixth course and we have the courses to consider an 8-course format, should that prove to offer the best overall experience. We are still in the process of identifying our options and of course the PDGA folks have a say in the chosen format as well. The very fine 18-hole course at Pickard Park in Indianola, the Ames course(s) (an additional 18 should be completed in Ames by then)and creating a temporary course at Dale Moffit Reservoir are indeed being considered. Just be assured that we are all looking for ways to balance the desire to get a lot of golf in and the desire to have time to get some relaxation and enjoy all the other activities going on around the Championships. Ideas are welcome. Speak now or be ignored later/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Apr 23 2003, 08:12 AM
Well, I guess lightning didn't quite strike me that time. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

jackinkc
Apr 23 2003, 11:51 AM
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Apr 26 2003, 06:33 PM
Whats up with the juniors in 2004??? somebody please tell me they will be included in the big event in IOWA ?!? to have the pro/am worlds all together and have the juniors seperate (like this year) would really stink...in my humble opinion....Rhett do you have any info on this?...

beckyz
Apr 29 2003, 07:46 AM
The website for 2004 Worlds is up!!

http://www.pdga.com/worlds04

Check out four of the Worlds courses!

Thanks to Des Moines Disc Golf Club members Neils Johnson and Bob Marvin for donating their time and getting it up so quick. And thanks to Theo Pozzy for coordinating efforts with Neils and Bob to move the site to the production server.

I also want to thank Jason Hilton, Joe Thompson, and Hogan Haake for their volunteer work for designing and maintaining our club website. We have a great Technology Team!!

If you are coming to the Challenge and need a hotel, you need to reserve your rooms by May 3rd to get the special Challenge rate.

Apr 29 2003, 08:55 AM
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Apr 29 2003, 11:42 AM
Is it true that Iowa State B-Ball coach Larry Eustachy (http://desmoinesregister.com/sports/basketball/men/cyclones/eustachyphotos.html) is the chairman of the Social Commitee for Worlds 2004?

Apr 29 2003, 12:41 PM
I don't think so. Those golfers party way too hard for me.

Apr 29 2003, 02:11 PM
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jeffash
Apr 29 2003, 02:48 PM
Looks a little like Arkansas/clipart/wink.gif
Mark- We, of the MRV thread, are impressed with your graphics. Steady Ed was awesome also!

p-katt
Apr 29 2003, 03:31 PM
I think Jr's would benefit by being tied in (if feasible). My son and I would be headed to London for July 2003 Jr's but between SARS and now his broken arm....NOT. It would be nice to go and play rather than just caddy for him.

wit
Apr 29 2003, 06:22 PM
very nice website!!

Apr 29 2003, 06:42 PM
Ref. ISU coach ; I hope his poor judgement refers to the nasty beer he was consuming. Made worse by the cig ashes he was dumping in it. JUST KIDDING!
PLEASE don't judge Iowa by this guy. (But that beer is nasty!)

rhett
May 05 2003, 04:46 PM
Made my hotel reservations yesterday.

May 05 2003, 09:15 PM
Rhett
Good luck. This will be my first year in about 8 years to not go. And I just got my invitation yesterday. You guy's tear it up and I will follow along online. Also good luck to all Dragons.(Round Rock Disc Golf Club)

rhett
May 05 2003, 11:10 PM
I made reservations for Des Moines yesterday. I guess maybe I will see you there! /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Moderator005
May 06 2003, 11:46 AM
All rooms are sold out at the Sheraton under the PDGA Pro Worlds 2004 rate. The only available rooms are at least $119 per night.

Let's hope that a discount rate can be negotiated with the nearby Holiday Inn or Comfort Inn.

-Jeff

rhett
May 06 2003, 12:07 PM
Ask for the front desk instead of reservations. They send you off to the corporate-wide reservation center that is off site if you ask for reservations, and there is a problem with the group rate right now. I emailed Becky and she is working the issue so it should be resolved real soon.

I made my reservation for one of the big rooms at $20 more a night than quoted on the Worlds web-page but less than the rate quoted out of the reservation center. I feel confident that it will be straightened out this week. You can always cancel, but it's hard to grab a room after they are gone. Ask for the front desk and reserve your room now! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

jeffash
May 06 2003, 12:25 PM
Ditto to that Rhett! Grab em quick!! Fill that baby up!!!
<FONT COLOR="ff0000"><FONT SIZE=" 2">Des Moines 2004</FONT></FONT>

May 06 2003, 05:54 PM
FYI, I know a guy that owns a hotel on NE 14th st that I haven't talked to yet about rooms. I haven't said anything to the DM crew because I'm not sure anything will be available, but I will look into it when I get to DM this summer.

May 07 2003, 01:09 AM
1.
I talked to Becky and she said that the rate may not have been set up yet by the hotel even though it should be and soon will be. I guess we started to set up reservations sooner that they anticipated. She is on top of it and will post what’s going on soon.

2.
I doubt that the hotel could be filled up so quickly - this is a big hotel and we got the whole thing.

3.
Becky has 2 other hotels next door that will offer similar rates. Details to come. We will have more then enough rooms. (About $60.00 a night for up to 4 people.)

4.
Keep in mind that the Iowa State Fair runs through Aug. 7-17 which is concurrent to the Worlds; Aug. 8 - 14th. Any hotels near the fairgrounds will be booking for that. The Des Moines Convention bureau did tell us though; not to expect any conflicts because most fairgoers
either stay for only the day or camp out; either at the fair or at local camp sites.
If you plan on camping out you may want to make your reservations soon.

5.
As stated earlier Becky Zallek is on top of this and if you know Becky she will not rest until everything is perfect.

6.
Anything that I just said that does not jive with Becky is to be
disregarded.

I hope that everybody makes this Worlds because I have a feeling it could be the best ever.

beckyz
May 08 2003, 08:57 AM
2004 Worlds on the Radio and Press Release!

I was just informed this morning that our first press release went out yesterday!! And that the Des Moines CVB has our first 2004 Worlds interview scheduled with WHO-RADIO on Drive-Time-Des Moines with Jerry Reno for 5/21/03 at 5:30 p.m.

The buzz is only just beginning in Des Moines!!!

Here is their Press Release:

News Release
May 7, 2003
For more information, contact
Rob Johnson, Greater Des Moines Convention &amp; Visitors Bureau
515/699-3448 or 515/490-0843
rjohnson@desmoinescvb.com

DISC GOLF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
SELECT GREATER DES MOINES

DES MOINES, IA – The Professional Disc Golf Association (PDGA) has awarded the 2004 PDGA World Championships to Des Moines. Nearly 900 disc golfers will compete on four different metro area courses during the weeklong event, scheduled for August 8 – 14, 2004.

“This is an exciting and unique event for greater Des Moines to be hosting,” says Greg Edwards, President/CEO of the Greater Des Moines Convention and Visitors Bureau (CVB). “Few people are aware of what our area has to offer in terms of unique recreational activities such as our disc golf courses. Bringing in the professional and amateur worlds will not only elevate the opinion of visitors from around the country about Des Moines, but hopefully will change the attitudes of local folks who think there’s nothing fun to do here.”

According to the CVB, the PDGA World Championships will use nearly 5,200 hotel room nights and generate an estimated economic impact of nearly $1 million to the community.

The 7-day championships consist of both an amateur and professional division. Each division will have 438 golfers competing, with an estimated total attendance of 2,000 people per day. The following disc golf courses are currently slated for play during the championships: Grandview and Ewing Parks in Des Moines, Walnut Ridge State Park in Johnston, and Big Creek State Park in Polk City.

The CVB in cooperation with the Des Moines Disc Golf Club, the Des Moines Parks and Recreation Office, the Army Corps of Engineers, and the Department of Natural Resources compiled the necessary resources and together spearheaded this joint effort to ensure the 2004 Worlds would be hosted in Des Moines.

For more information on the 2004 PDGA Disc Golf Championships please visit www.pdga.com/worlds04. (http://www.pdga.com/worlds04.)

jeffnichols
May 08 2003, 01:10 PM
I see only four courses listed. This is a pro/am worlds right? Don't we need more than four?

specialk
May 08 2003, 01:32 PM
Right you are, Jeff. Plans are being hashed out for at least 2 additional courses. We don't have anything finalized, so we can't list them yet.

jeffnichols
May 08 2003, 05:35 PM
OK, thanks Special K. I'm really rooting that they combine the juniors too, as my two sons would love to play in a major and check their skills against the best of their age group. A special trip to play a "junior only" worlds is just too much, and since I'll likely be playing in Des Moines, it could be a great family thing!

rhett
May 08 2003, 06:12 PM
Jeff,

The PDGA is going to evaluate it after the Junior Worlds in Ontario this year. Becky told me that DM already requested that the Juniors be added, but no decisions are going to be made until after the Worldses are over this year. Send an email to the PDGA and tell them how great this would be for your family! I'm sure we can get the Lindgrens to write in also. That will be three families from SoCal pushing for it.

I'm not sure who to adress it to. I usually just send stuff to office@pdga.com and then Brian forwards it to the right people. I don't know if there's a better address.

I'm really looking forward to Des Moines! Michigan in 2000 was pretty cool, so I don't want to miss nother combined Worlds.

I'm also really stoked at all the community involvement that Team Des Moines has going. This is really going to rock.

beckyz
May 08 2003, 10:55 PM
We could easily add the Juniors if the PDGA BOD and membership would like. We were thinking they could play four totally different courses than the Pros and Ams. So we would use a total of ten courses!

Hotel Update- The Holiday Inn next door to the Sheraton Four Points Tournament Central is giving us a hotel rate of $62.00 a night!! They have king and standard rooms and an indoor and outdoor pool. It's located on Merle Hay Road, right off of I-80.

The Sheraton's rate is $57.00 a night, but you have to have a 7-night stay minimum to get this rate. At the Holiday Inn, there is no minimum stay. The Holiday Inn's computer system is unable to take reservations more than a year ahead of the event. So as soon as the computers are set up to take reservations, we'll let you know. Brad the Sales Manager told me today they'll probably be ready for reservations 8-9-03.

The Holiday Inn is also offering free hospitality rooms for any Clubs to use. You'll just have to sign up for them ahead of time.

beckyz
May 13 2003, 08:15 AM
The Iowa Train Keeps Rolling! We are so lucky here to have so many talented disc golfers who are willing to help out. I just received the following message last night. It just goes to show that you never know who is out playing on the disc golf courses and what they can do to help because they are so into disc golf!! ---------

Congratulations on landing the 2004 PDGA World Championships in Des Moines. I've recently become "obsessed" with the game and can't wait for this event. I work for an advertising agency here in West Des Moines and I was wondering
if there was any advertising, marketing or public relations support that our firm or myself could offer. Our company, Porter &amp; Associates has had great success working with PGA golf tournaments and other "one time" or annual events such as the 1999 US Senior Open Championships (which blew away the all-time attendance record), the 2000 John Deere Classic golf tournament (which also set an attendance record) and the 2002 World Pork Expo (which set attendance and exhibitor records), to name a few. We are again working
with the World Pork Expo for their 2003 event here at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. Check out our Website at www.porterandassociates.com (http://www.porterandassociates.com) if you
would like more information about our company.

I think it would be a great idea if you were to put together a local celebrity tournament prior to the event help stimulate local interest.
Since many Des Moines area "celebrities" are TV and radio personalities, this kind of tournament would generate natural media coverage such as live
weather broadcasts, talk show remotes, etc. You might even consider putting one together yet this year to get the ball rolling. This is something that could be used as a fund raiser as well.

Again, please feel free to contact me if you would like any marketing communications assistance for this event, or if you just want some professional advice or opinions. My contact information is listed below.

Thanks, congratulations and good luck,

Ryan Crowell
Porter &amp; Associates

Have Serious Fun At Our Updated Website http://www.porterandassociates.com

terrilldisc
May 13 2003, 09:17 AM
Becky,
Great work on the worlds and all youre doing for the club. I know its alot of hard work and keeping all informed on what is going on. Des Moines Disc Golf Club has to be one of the most organized clubs out there, if its not the # 1 club out there. Keep it up and good luck. Barb and I will be droping by around the last week in May. Going to a wedding and drop off some discing movies. Hey, dont forget your side kick Kuzi.
GO GIRL GO

ck34
Sep 11 2003, 11:31 AM
I was looking over the WFDF World records and it struck me that if players had the opportunity at PAW 2004 in Iowa, some of these records could be broken. Lately, the competition at Worlds has been called Longest Drive because the venues haven't been suitable for running a formal Distance competition. If Iowa has the site, it might be nice to run a formal distance competition. If the Juniors are also there, it appears there are several records that could potentially fall since they have few opportunities otherwise.

Here's the WFDF World Records site for reference:

http://www.wfdf.org/rulrec.htm

davei
Sep 11 2003, 04:47 PM
I hear the Iowa state record is pretty easy. Unless that has changed over the last 2 yrs.

specialk
Sep 11 2003, 08:07 PM
No, it's still pretty easy, compared to more traditional disc sports states. I think your boy Chris Sprague has the record at around 465'.

We have a lot of gravity in Iowa.

snoophaney
Sep 11 2003, 08:21 PM
Maybe I should jump on a plane to Iowa so that I could have a distance record before next years worlds./msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

snoop

Sep 12 2003, 12:20 AM
hey nice facts Chuck

Sep 12 2003, 02:08 AM
Chuck, I don't know what is planned, but I would certainly expect an actual distance competition. I was just looking over my job list and there should be a *field events coordinator* assigned shortly. I will make sure they are aware of your request. Personally, I will push for every type of frisbee competition to be available that week. Feel free to email me with any requests until I can give you a more appropriate email address.

There's probably a communications director already in place who will scold me for posting all of this unofficial garbage, but they can't stop me they can only hope to contain me!!

Chris Hysell
Sep 12 2003, 07:31 AM
What is that basketball field goal distance crap? I yanked a drive once in a final 9 and it went through a basketball net off of the backboard. It was easily 300ft away. Maybe it's a record for trying to make a field goal. I could break that record on 5 attempts maximum.

Yeti
Sep 19 2003, 12:04 PM
TOURNAMENT IN DES MOINES
It is time for the culmination of Iowa's first all-state Bag Tag Challenge. You can buy a tag the morning of if you want to participate.
We will have some good cash/merch added as well.

Bag Tag Finale

WHAT: Iowa Bag Tag Challenge tournament. We will play one round of 18-27 holes with all tags up for grabs. We will then pair everyone according to new tag rank for a skins match on your card for the second round. Each card will have a set amount of skins cash/merch they will be playing for. The better Bag Tag you end up with after the first round, the more skins cash/merch available to your card.

WHO: The Bag Tag Finale is open to any Iowa Bag Tag holder. The cost is $20 with a Tag or $40 without a Tag because you will have to buy one. We will have a Pro/Am split field. Other divisions will not matter because you will be playing with others of the same skill level.

WHEN: Sunday, September 21st
9:00 Sign-Up
10:00 Player&amp;#8217;s Meeting


WHERE: Des Moines, IA
Ewing Park -THE ONE and ONLY!

Yeti
Sep 19 2003, 12:06 PM
Fundraiser for 2004 World's!!

thcplz
Sep 19 2003, 12:08 PM
DON'T FORGET: only 35 of those "I WAS ROBBED @ OUTLAWS shirts were made.

HAVE FUN!!!

Sep 19 2003, 02:07 PM
Saturday Sept. 20th.

Carolina Boys Iowa Bag Tag Finale

Where? Winthrop
Who? Rodney(202) and CBlay(51)

Your going down man.
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Sep 19 2003, 02:23 PM
Good thing for you that tags aren't decided by correct usage of your/you're (http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/your.html).

51 is MINE.

G-Rod rules, CBlay drools.

Sep 19 2003, 02:25 PM
Carolina Boy Iowa Sac Tag Finale - 2010 - Mixed Doubles

G-Rod/G-G vs. CBlay/BigHeadTodd

All that's left is for you to decide which of you is the girl. Tough choice.

Sep 19 2003, 03:08 PM
Here is the breakdown of division for the 2010 Mixed Divisions Doubles

CBLAY1 representing MPO
CBLAY2 representing Jr Boys
GG representing Jr Girls
GRod representing SeniorGrandLegendMaster

My money is on CBlay1/CBlay2 because GG won't be able to keep her mind off of CBlay2 (da MAN).

/clipart/crazy.gif

Sep 19 2003, 03:10 PM
By the way, CBLAY2 drools. CBLAY1 rules and drops fools like YOU!!!

Sep 21 2003, 08:06 PM
New provision on the Texas trip. Only those that reside in Iowa are allowed this year. I'm not taking a week's vacation to listen to this.

Sep 21 2003, 08:12 PM
Psssst, Clue:

CBlay = Easy Money for you.

By the way, CBlay won the Carolina division of the Iowa Sac Tag Challenge on Saturday at the Gold Course.

Later,
#202

beckyz
Sep 22 2003, 08:15 AM
A huge thanks goes out to Yeti and Des for organizing the 2003 Iowa Worlds Bag Tag Challenge. I am excited to report they sold 100 tags and gave a check to the DSM Club yesterday after the finals for $1,500.00!!!

Congrats goes out to Mike Despanas for winning the Bag Tag Challenge yesterday.

We also want to give a huge thanks for all those who purchased tags - in Iowa and from other states. Thank you for your support!!

Sep 22 2003, 11:27 AM
You are telling me that a guy that beat the legend that has cost me more money the last decade is easy money? I hope that's the only time he's beat you.

Ditto what BZ said. Sorry I didn't make it yesterday Yeti. I set the alarm, but when I woke up and saw the relentless rain outside I chose to make it a football day.

Yeti
Sep 22 2003, 11:57 AM
Thanks to all who came out for the spectacular Bag Tag Finale despite the soggy morning. The afternoon skins were dry and looked/sounded like everyone really enjoyed themselves!

Big thanks to Innova and all the Regional Coordinators.
Big thanks to everyone that purchased a 2003 Iowa Bag Tag.

$1500 raised for 2004 Worlds
$864 purse for Bag Tag Finale--sorry you missed it!

Bag Tag Results (Top six):

#1 Mike Despenas (48)---Caddy Shack Lightning
Round ($161 in AM skins)
#2 Yeti J Reading (49) ACE on hole #8
#3 Chris Greenleaf (53) $180 in Pro skins cash
#4 Jon Latch (53) Baby due any day
#5 Big O (53) AM plays for the $$ AND
SCORES
#6 Chris Claring (54) no skins, but great tag

Joe Wiley &amp; Snapple sweep all of their AM card skins!!

Stay tuned--BIG plans for next year!

Yeti
Sep 22 2003, 11:59 AM
Metal Mike--The VERY limited Outlaws shirt went away very coveted, Thanks.
Thanks Round Rock Disc Golf club as well!

thcplz
Sep 23 2003, 12:29 AM
GLAD TO HEAR IT/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif,
i'm already thinking about next years.
well, a couple others should be out before now and then.

beckyz
Sep 23 2003, 08:12 AM
Des Moines - Most Hip City in U.S.? - Check out this article from the Des Moines Register about an upcoming Fast Company magazine article and Des Moines:

http://desmoinesregister.com/news/stories/c4788998/22293057.html

Sep 23 2003, 08:35 AM
Will their be any tours of the potatoe fields during Worlds???

Chris Hysell
Sep 23 2003, 08:41 AM
I think that is Idaho.

pterodactyl
Sep 23 2003, 09:25 AM
p-o-t-a-t-o: Who are you? Dan Quail?

vinnie
Sep 23 2003, 09:33 AM
Round rock is putting together a group to be at Worlds04.
Yeti can southern boys find a place to crash or should we plan on hoteling it?

drivethruliquor
Sep 23 2003, 09:54 AM
Yeti

Is it too late to get an Iowa Bag Tag?

spartan
Sep 23 2003, 11:32 AM
Is there room for <FONT COLOR="ff0000">Loretta</FONT>, Metal? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

my_hero
Sep 23 2003, 03:12 PM
Yeti, which tag did you save for me?? I see that you ended up with the #2 tag that i sent up there from Dallas/Fort Worth. How ironic is that?/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

exczar
Sep 23 2003, 06:57 PM
My-Hero,

Not to rile you or anything, but it is also ironic that Dallas Disc Golf is waiting for their bag tags to be made.

If you don't know when they can be made, that's cool, but let Dirk know so we can have some made for next month's club mtg. I don't have any bag tags yet, and I really want one from my home club.

Thanks.

beckyz
Sep 24 2003, 08:29 AM
Vinnie, it would be great if you could stay at the host hotel. We get $10,000 worth of ballroom and another room we are using for the week for free if we get over a hundred and something rooms filled. The extra room is next to the Bennegin's in the Sheraton and we are using it for sign-in on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Then the hotel is providing a bank of computers in that same room so people can access the web whenever they want.

The host hotel info is on the Worlds web page which you can link to from the front page www.dsmdiscgolf.org. (http://www.dsmdiscgolf.org.) If a group of you are coming, I recommend one of the suites. We are going to have some fun events at the hotel. Actually, Yeti is in charge of bringing in some hot music for the week. There are already ten suites booked at the Sheraton. And you can fit more than four in the suites.

And I don't yet have the info up for the Holiday Inn next to the Sheraton. But they are giving us a great deal for $62.00 a night. We plan on having a couple of outdoor concerts - one on Tuesday night and one on Wednesday behind the Holiday Inn with a portable stage. Both facilities are top notch.

The other thing that I need to make people aware of is the National AAU Junior Olympics are having their 2004 Championships in Des Moines just before our event. Their last day is August 7th. The city is expecting 30,000 people for the three weeks they will be in town. The track and field events are the last week. So we expect many of the rooms in the city to be filled. The Sheraton is holding a certain number of rooms for us until a few weeks before the event. Then they will open it up to the public. So I want to encourage everyone to make their reservations early.

And, the Iowa State Fair starts on Thursday, August 12th. So people will be coming into town for that.

Des Moines is going to be an exciting place!

my_hero
Sep 24 2003, 01:38 PM
Bill Burns, you have mail!!