2003 Dallas Round Up?

This is a great tournament on a couple of great courses, is it happening again this year?? if so when?? i am hearing rumors that it was cxcld, that will make the only 2 dallas tournaments we have cancelled in the last 2 years, 1st amathon now this please let us know whats going on!!!

[27dogs]

thomas, i talked to eric hill the other day at fritz. told me no round up this year.

TK, Frank's pretty much got it. I spoke with Dirk Snow a couple of weeks ago about the Round Up and he said the same thing.

HCF had made an offer to step up (with a little help from our friends /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif ), and run the DRU this year. Dirk said that there had also been others who had made similar offers. He said that the Dallas club didn't want to have a Round Up this year, but that they might be doing something else later in the year.

[gnduke]

They do not even want a Round Up to be held ? Even if they do not do anything but put a name on it ?

Evidently not. At least that's what I was told by the guy that pretty much speaks for the DDG club.

Maybe that was just a polite way of declining my offer. After all, TD's like me are ruining the sport, right? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif (inside joke)

I have played in this event before when it was the Spring Round Up and loved it. I felt it should be held if for no other reason than the continuity of the event and the date. I even had a pretty respectable asst. TD to co-TD the event with. It could've been great, but they are evidently not able to be a part of it at this time.

And in fairness to them, just putting their name on it wouldn't be all that was required, Gary. Anyone coming in to run the event would have to lean on DDG for some staffing help too. Not much, maybe, but some.

Also, it wouldn't be their name on it if someone else was investing the time and money to run it. Maybe that was a consideration too, although I really can't speak for them in that regard.

[ozdisc]

More news soon.../msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Stay Tuned! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Mark Atwood, how about an AUSTIN ROUND UP? Nah that will never happen, because of Austin Parks and Rec./msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif(non sacn. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif)

Looks to me like the DDG club is doing mostly nothing..why have a club if you aren't going to run any tournies? Just making some dough on mini's really doesn't justify the need for a club.

[my_hero]

The DFW locals, and the TX state golfers would someone to step up and put on the show. I would support anyone willing to TD the event.

John, someone did and DDG doesn't want them to. Are you saying that someone should step up and run it even though the local club that founded the event and the name doesn't want them to? I would think this would step on too many toes and disrupt the peace, don't you?

How about just throwing a tourney in general...I don't care what the name is or if it is sanctioned or not...just a fun weekend of golfing with the locs...heck I will even help run the thing...I ran a club in OKC that through a tourney every month for an entire year and then every 2 months last year...it's not all about the money..it is promotion of the sport and competition

[ozdisc]

Please note I am still working on details but I am planning a B-tier event that same weekend in the Dallas area. I hope to know more today or tomorrow.

I will not yet announce where but it will not be at BB Owens or White Rock Lake. We will be there for ZT10 on July 12 anyway.

I want to make sure that everyone is happy including the Dallas Disc Golf Club.

No fear the Thunder is here/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

See, I told y'all to Stay Tuned! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[27dogs]

chris can you say audobon?

[ozdisc]

No that's a German word. There are only so many languages I can speak.

[my_hero]

I'm just saying that myself and many other players in the state would support any event being held here. Yes, it would be taboo to step on their toes.

I knew what you meant John. I was just pointing out the reasons why we didn't step in. I hope you didn't take it the wrong way due to my smart alecky response. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

You know I think you're a QUALITY guy!

[rhett]

This is a pretty funny development, Mark. Not funny ha-ha, though. /msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif I thought those guys would've had Puffer's Paradise all lined-up as a title sponsor.

Funny Rhett. Mean, but funny.

this is ridiculaous, there are no sanctioned tournaments in Dallas now unless Chris can perform a miicle, apparently it is all about the money for DDC and that is stupid! Dallas is a very large city with lots of DGers and we should have a sanctioned tournament, we have Mr Jims in Carollton, and VPO in arlington, then the Big show, but Dallas is also a large city and we need to have some tournaments throughout the area. Chris, if there is anythin i can do to help with gettin a tournament together please let me know, new email tfkocurek@yahoo.com

peace and good luck getting something together

TK

No to White Rock? /msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif Too bad.
Yes to Audubon? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
Yes to Flagpole Hill? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[chainranger]

First of all, there is more to a club than running PDGA tournaments. All the money we raise goes into the courses and parks. We have planted at least 60 trees at BB and plan on more this year. Dirk and I still do demo's for youth organizations. Dirk is constantly working with the city for more courses in Dallas. (especially now since ALL of the officials we have worked with for the last 8 years have been replaced = educating them)
In anycase, Dirk is now in school and working nights. My job has anihilated(sp?) my time, I only get to play the Thursday night glow doubles now. (and I have only been Dirks assistant for the last two years, but never the less do alot of the work)
So, this year neither Dirk or myself were going to be able to invest the proper amount of attention, time and money. (yes, we go into the hole every year and personally add financial support for the tourney every year) We would prefer to not run a tournament than to run one that doesn't live up to our reputataion for great tournaments.
As far as someone else helping out, it is more than that they would need to RUN the show 100%.(sponsors, flyers, shirts, food/drinks, hotels, etc.) Now if someone is going to do that and not be a DDG member would seem wierd. So, instead the date is open and I am glad the Chris is stepping in.

Hope this makes sense....
This said, the priority for the club is to get financially stable again and work on getting ready for Z10.

I don't think that's fair, TK. I don't think its about the money at all. I get the impression that the same guys have been doing it for years and they want to develop some new blood in their own club to do these events. Furthermore, the same guys are not only a bit burned but very busy, especially in Dirk's case.

That was a pretty strong accusation, and I felt it necessary to point out that I don't think its accurate. At least not from the discussions I've had with them.

[jbitner]

yes to elgin/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
but someone took no.1 and no.7's baskets/msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif

just a little ******, not meaning to ake any accusations. just want a tournament w/out hotel or camping

[ozdisc]

You will have a tournament that weekend and it will be a B-tier.

The course I have lined up is a little slow coming back to me so just to stir things up a little where would you all like to see it.

Remember the amount of work a temp course is and that we will not be using BB Owen.

One course or two? It will fill/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[27dogs]

audobon audobon audobon audobon audobon!!!!!!!!!1 chris you could even stay at the house with mark and kent

[bambam]

Hey Frank, what's a weenie-armed OMB like yourself wanting to play Audobon for, anyway? /clipart/proud.gif

Seriously, I'd second Frank's opinion... Audobon would be an awesome course for a tourney, just as long as it doesn't rain for at least 2 weeks prior.

One course......one day......two rounds

[27dogs]

hey bam bam i'll put my d up against yours anyday/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif did i mention audobon aodobon audobon audobon

[ozdisc]

Doesn't everybody hate the baskets at Audobon? On one hand people love the course, but you can imagine the whining during the tournament about bad putts. I will not take the blame for everybody's dislike for the basket conditions.

I try to keep all the good weather luck for those other little events I do.

One day...one course...three rounds/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I 2nd or 3rd Audubon.
But really like Flag Pole Hill and White Rock Lake. I got 2 baskets to loan! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[ozdisc]

Does anybody have a contact for the City of Irving? It's summer then so Fritz could be fun in the sun.

What do you think of this?

One day B-tier in McKinney. I know the course is very small and easy but I have been to the USDGC so can find ways to make it challenging. 3 rounds of 18 could be okay?

Positive things to think about with regards to holding an event in an public park is city support. The City of McKinney, City of Lewisville, City of Waco all are very supportive and makes a huge difference in the planning.

Thanks for the input. I normally don't open myslef up like this but I feel that I need to respect the Dallas club and all the Dallas players that want to see an event there. If not I could move it to San Marcos/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

McKinney has plenty of potential to be "tuffened" up. And room for 3 more holes.

And most of the course is in the shade.

[lauranovice]

Just played McKinney Alex Clark recently. Don and I liked it. It was a pretty course. Sounds like the city is favorable toward disc golf. What dates are you looking at?

[lauranovice]

oh, but one problem we noticed is that if it were full people would be crossing and throwing close to each other. Potential danger of hearing "four" a bunch. The course does play fast. So, could easily do three rounds.

[my_hero]

i have a problem with the dive-bombing squirrels at McKinney/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[ozdisc]

The weekend the Dallas Round Up was scheduled for. June 28-29. You should be recovered from your wedding by then.

Funny how when I pose serious questions the board goes quite. I thought Trev was the only thread killer here. I am open to ideas and suggestions, but for the people that know me I work on strict timelines so if I don't hear news I will get it done another way and make a decision/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Thanks Brian and Laura. If McKinney was used I would make sure it played well and everything was "no worries."

[ozdisc]

Better than killer koala's jumping out of trees/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[jbitner]

auduban and b.b owen are logical choices. auduban is one of the best in the state regardless of the baskets. b.b.owen would be fine now that they have plenty of alternate pin locations that make it challenging. Chris ,much appreciation for your efforts here in Big D. hope it works out. jb

[tiltedhalo]

I would put in a vote for Flagpole Hill--playing that last summer at the Dallas Round-Up was one of the highlights of my disc golf year... it is an absolutely amazing site for a course, made even more significant because it "appears" so seldom for play.

[seewhere]

Good choice Chris on PP OWENS and audobon baskets are a JOKE!! I got a basket I can loan to see WRL set-up. let us ROUND ROCK/CENTRAL TEXAS boys know Chris and we can help out I am sure. should be nice and HOT

please no bb, also not to mean any disrespect but no lewisville, 3 times a year is pushing it 4 would be a bit excessive. mckinney would be ok, audobon would be great! maybe even fritz if we could play all 18?

I like the idea of 4 rounds at 4 different courses as we did last year. Has something happened to disallow that possibility? The 2 temp courses were awesome.

Skeeter, read back through the whole thread. It'll make a lot more sense. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Well, personally I like the idea of playing McKinney. Close to where I live /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif, shady, and it's a more "women-friendly" course, I think. Not that we won't play any and all courses, but for a nice 1 day, 3 round tournament...we might be able to get a good number of gals out there. I know, I know...it's not a crusher course, but if Chris toughened it up a bit...

BTW-Chris..please don't ever leave Texas...we wuv you.. /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

I sure would love to play all 18 holes at Fritz!!!! But if so please please please clear this with all the Irving Parks people. Let's learn from our mistakes.../msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

[chainranger]

I would have to agree with TK that Fritz 18 would be great. (plus a nice central location for the area)

For Audubon, maybe we could cover the existing baskets with a plastic bag and put temp baskets up in the near area?

B.B does not have the parking area needed for a large crowd.

Okay, here is a good idea! Let's play McKinney, but let's add a new course or some new holes on or next to the ball golf course across the street. We could perhaps get permission to use some of that land and then have some crushing epic golf!!!!!/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

[bambam]

Chris, I think McKinney could be a good place to hold a one-day event, especially if we play the first round from the shorts and the second round from the longs... there are six holes there with long tees, and they change the holes quite a bit.

Frank, I'll take you up on that "D" challenge... just let me know when you get some, first. /clipart/proud.gif

Carrollton-Jimmie Porter or Greenbelt?
(Don't be scared of Mikey Sayre.)
I guess at least your disc sales would go up.(lots of water @ Greenbelt)

[spartan]

Time to bring this thread back? Is the Dallas Round Up still gonna happen? Were there any courses ever decided on? Inquiring Central Texans want to know.

[garywatts]

Chris is going to TD this thing in McKinney on June 28th, it will be a one day event and I think it will be a B-tier event. Hope to see ya there Martin.

[spartan]

Just one day? Two rounds? Final 9? Title Disc? Host hotel? Geez I have a lot of questions. Chris in Lubbock and then in Dallas the next weekend. Sounds like a busy man.

Did I mention that disc golf in Texas is GOLD? Gold, Jerry! /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

[ozdisc]

The Dallas Round Up has been put on hold by the Dallas Disc Golf Club and will happen at a another place at another time in the future. As for this year...

Please see the McKinney Open thread/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

THERE WILL BE A DALLAS EVENT THIS YEAR... IT MAY NOT BE PDGA SANCTIONED, BUT THERE WILL BE A TOURNAMENT AT BB AND AUDUBON. ITS TIME TO DO IT ALL----RIGHT........

As opposed to events in the past that were all....wrong?

Good luck, keep us posted.

Doing it right was never the problem Michael (and please take off your dam caps lock). The problem was that Dallas Disc Golf didn't want to run it this year. Further, they didn't want someone else to run it either. They have their reasons, I'm sure and its their tourney to do with what they please.

I don't think its too cool to come on here and imply that you're gonna save the day and run a "right" tournament when the club has stated they don't want that tournament to happen this year.

Besides, I think the last time you TD'd an event it was in a pretty combative fashion. I hope you're not gonna use that approach again.

Good luck with a Dallas event though. I for one, think there should be a top notch event on those courses (well, maybe White Rock instead of Audoban) every year.

[Pizza God]

Dirk Snow has been the driving force behind Dallas Disc Golf for years. He is going to school right now and working 3rd shifts when not in school. He does not have the time to run a tournament. The Dallas Disc Golf club did not have anyone else who wanted to head this thing up. (I along with a few others offered, but was never given an answer)

Dirk is still working on getting a course put in at Flag Pole Hill. That is looking pretty good. Now for those of you who played there last year, that was not the course they are trying to put in. The course would be in an area they only mow 1 to 2 times a year. Dirk told me he was going to be walking the course with the powers to be soon.

The Current DDG Club president and Vice President are Scott Cook and Michael McBee.

Dirk has expressed an interest in a DDG tournament in the Fall, I told him that the fall was pretty full for PDGA tournaments. Mr. McBee may be refering to that DDG may run a NON-PDGA event this fall. (hopefully not against any DFW area tournaments)

I never talked to Michael, but I did talk to Dirk and I'm sure Scott was also informed that Hill Country Flyers was willing to do the Dallas Round-Up this year. Dirk explained it to me and I accept his explanation. He also mentioned an event in the fall, but the scheduling's gonna be pretty dicey. I will reiterate Bryan's hope that this non-sanctioned event doesn't go up against a previously scheduled and sanctioned event. Especially when most of these other events worked with the schedule way ahead of time to find a way for all our events to co-exist.

[mitchjustice]

so what, 9 stoners show up and play a mini...big deal...Hey I beat my losers friends, I am cool/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Mark'
Audobon is one of my favorite courses anywhere. Do you not like it?

[Pizza God]

Jerry, some people just can't look past those crappy baskets. I for one think it is the best course this side of the DFW area. Z Boaz is better on the other side of the DFW area. Nothing against Arlington, but I think Audobon is a better course. Arlington is just better kempt.

Now the real question is, when is Autobon going to get new baskets. I have heard several different people say they are working on it.

[garywatts]

If you play there enough then you will learn how to keep your disc in the basket. Dont blame the baskets if you cant put. The only thing about that course is the city does not get to excited about mowing it. Played there this weekend (my favorite course in the summer, 3/4 of it is in the shade) and the grass is getting up there, I did notice where they mowed around the side wake or jogging trail.

[27dogs]

i think gary will second me on this one. the baskets leave a little to be desired, but if you hit chains the disc is in.

Gotta go with Pizza Slave on on that one...Audobon is one of the best courses down here..still has a nature look to it...probably one of the longest and most challenging courses in the DFW area. While the baskets don't quite catch like a brand new Mach V may, they still catch the same for all players. We need a tourney out there soon...Dallas golf tournies are dying and I just got here with the intent of Dallas golf being better than OKC golf

pizza, i am working on a tournament situation to put new baskets in, i just need a little time, i will be in the feb timefram the way it looks as of now though. i will get with you later in the year to set up a weekend, the city is working with me fairly well though.

JC and all, I love Audoban for the most part. Well laid out with some really cool holes, adequate parking and nice parkland. If maintained and with new baskets Audoban would be a jewel of DFW.

However, for all you guys that don't think those baskets are an issue, you are kidding yourselves. I know, they catch the same for everyone and if you can putt, then they'll work. I've heard all that. Yada, yada, yada.

I've played one tourney there, and the baskets left a negative impression of the course as a lasting impression in my mind. In my only return trip out there to play a fun casual round, they seemed to be even worse. I haven't been back.

Is that kind of impression on players something you guys think isn't important in attracting a tournament to a course? I think I'd kill to run an event there in the summer if the basket situation were ever resolved, but I can't see being interested in doing it otherwise (not that anyone's asked me, just putting my opinion out there and speaking only for myself).

Of course, I still think I could whoop Frank out there, crappy baskets or not, but then he'd use them as an excuse. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[27dogs]

never i happen to like the baskets, where do you think j.d. fine tuned his game.that is also where i got my distance. mayfield never had a problem filling the amothon.

[garywatts]

I do agree with Frank and Mark all so, the baskets will make you earn your keep but it works that way for us all. I do not mind the baskets that much, it is the grass problem in the summer. It seems that the city could care less about the whole park, we played there Sunday morning and in the middle of the park there is a play ground and picnic tables and then there was all the damm trash. All the cans were full and some over flowing and not a city worker in site.
For example:
We played the Carrollton courses on Saturday, started with Greenbelt. I get there around 7:45 and there is a crew waking the park picing up trash and empting all the cans. And on top of that the course had been mowed.
It would be nice to see a club take over that course and get the city more involved.
BTW - Flip doubles on Thursday - 10.00

Mark,
I have not played there in a couple of years. I would perfer to play somewhere else as well if the baskets are in poor shape. I will not buy into the "they are the same for everyone" theory. We have good maintained parks to play and I would much rather drive further and play a well groomed course. Especially after driving all the way to Dallas just to play a poorly kept up course. I can see why the course is in such poor shape with an attitude like that. It may be the same for everyone playing that day on that course, but it will be better for the rest of us since we will be playing on a nice clean course somewhere.

[garywatts]

Jerry the baskets are not as bad as they are made out to be. Let some one here know when you are coming up and we will let you know if the course has been groomed. BTW all the trash I spoke of is not on the disc golf course it is by the picnic area. This is one of my favorite corses, lots of shade for a hot summer day.

[testap]

All this talk of baskets not good enough is crap!!! The game involves a tee box and a basket!! It's that simple. I don't particularly like the big "yellow band" on baskets but that doesn't mean I am going to turn my nose up at it and not play. Different courses present diff. challenges, more trees, diff. tee pads, diff. baskets.. It's all part of the game. Are we going to pass on courses that don't have concrete tee pads.. This is crazy!! Audobon is a great course and one of my favorites. The mowing would not be an issue if a tourny was going to be set up there. For everybody whinning about the baskets, get real.... Look at what the game is being reduced to here.. People used to play to trees and trash cans.. for the love of the game.. What happened to you all???

Paul,
If you want to play to trees or in subpar parks thats fine with me. Some players perfer to get a motel instead of camping. The great thing about disc golf is because of growth we now have options. Audoban is one of the first courses I played in Dallas in the early nineties. I played there with Gene Barfield and Glen Hale a couple of years ago in the Dallas Roundup.I love the course and would love to play there again in a tournament. I mean no disrespect towards the course. However, when I decide where I am going to play I often factor in the condition of the course. Heck I set a tournament record round at five under par that lasted about 5 minutes until Gene came in with a six under par. His six under lasted about five minutes until Mike Sayer came in at seven under par./msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif I love the course and the players around Dallas. You will win if you bet on my coming back. But not to play to trees or baskets in poor condition./msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[testap]

I am just going to go out on a limb and assume you did not miss the point of the "trees" in my post. My point was simple.. Like it or not... If a basket is standing, has chains, and doesn't have unfair advantages or disadvantages, it is a basket capable of catching a disc.. All 18 holes have one of these baskets.. The baskets are fine to play a tourny in. Maybe we could gather some of the locals to go out and polish up the baskets and make them shine for the "real putz's" I mean putters ;)

i would love to call audoban home!
come on Jerry, Is it nec. to bash a course you pull a five down on? Yeah, those basket are terrible. I played there, they looked ackward, but did not move out of the way or taunt me. They seemed to show the same manerisms (sp?) as a normal basket. Has any baskets ever been stolen from this course? hmmm if not maybe we should make them all like this /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[kingrat6931]

Audoban has lousy baskets, this is a fact. But so does San Marcos, in my opinion. Everyone has to play the same baskets, Just like if it rains or sleets, we all play under the same conditions.
If you choose not to play, that's your choice. But any basket is better than the 4 by 4 posts or painted trees. I play for the love of the game and to see friends I haven't seen in a while. Although winning is an extra bonus, it doesn't control my fun.
I wouldn't mind playing Audobahn again. It would be one heck of a challenge!

Paul and Chu,
I do not have a problem with the Autoban. I never bashed the course either. I just said if I have an option after driving all the way to Dallas I would choose the Lake course at Lewsville. (for example) I have not even seen the course in several years. Maybe this should be a challange to the course club to raise money and putt in better baskets! I know our club would never allow baskets in poor condition to remain on our course. I did get your point about "trees" Paul. Did you get my point about "options."

[27dogs]

jerry the course has changed a lot since you played it last.if you get a 5 down now you need to go on tour. i think you would like it even better.

BTW - it is Audubon park - I have no clue why it would be wrong in the course directory...

Gimp,
Taht is what I thought to. I just blew it off. Maybe see you Houston golfers this weekend, coming down for Caleb's 1yr B-Day party at NANAS.

Victor call me, Bubba has my number. So does John or Chu or Joe or Sue.

Yea the Autobon is the highway where you can drive real fast in Germany I think... /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

[garywatts]

Aquabon - when it rains alot [:~]

Anyone else notice TK chats in all of the discussions? I wonder if he has a job.
HA, just kidding, anyone willing to promote Disc Golf in the Dallas area can chat all they want.
You too Pizza guy.

[vinnie]

sup knight and all you lurkers up North.
We put on touraments down here all the time.
And noone from , how do you all say it DALLASS, comes down.But the one or two times a year you all have one we are there.
GET IT TOGETHER!!!!. Is the round up thing going to happen or what.
dates? place?............
If not let this thread DIE

[garywatts]

By Chris Himing May 30, 2003

The Dallas Round Up has been put on hold by the Dallas Disc Golf Club and will happen at a another place at another time in the future. As for this year...

Please see the McKinney Open thread

[vinnie]

figures you all got to get a out of towner to try to pull something together.
I got it pull all your baskets and send them down here. We will putt them to good use.
You all could be come the Dallass Quilting club/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

ya i have a job, when are you going to buy a house so that i can make some more money, rates as low as 1.95% yes that is real we just got it in today. anyone else interested feel free to email me i know i can save you money tfkocurek@yahoo.com


there Rob, know you know i have a job, and you made me use the message board to my advantage. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

1.95% man, that is my made putts average!