16th Annual New Mexico State Championship, June 14-15

Let's get this ball rolling. Assuming its not already full (and I'm only half joking) this is one you've got to play to believe. The course at Sipapu Ski and Summer Resort is at once one of the most challenging, yet rewarding courses you're likely to play.

The best part is, if by some wicked twist of fate, you're having a bad round, just stop and look around you. It'll put your bad round in perspective and make you glad to be alive and to be a disc golfer.

This is where my family takes our annual summer vacation. While I'm playing during the day, Michelle and the kids are off exploring Taos and the surrounding countryside. There's plenty for the family to do, not to mention that the Carson National Forest is among the most beautiful mountain areas I've ever seen.

This thing fills about a month in advance usually, so get in while you can. This year they've got it listed on Titledisc. I know a lot of Tejas players that are going and even one transplanted Texan from Down Under. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

So, is you is, or is you ain't? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[jackinkc]

URGH!!! Now why did I plan the Wide Open this weekend as well? I love this course. Yet again I am going to miss the event. I really need to have my head analyzed. If you are not planning on coming to KC, go here, this place is one of my favorite courses. I got sick when I realized that this event was the same weekend we planned the Am Wide Open.

I am sure that it will be a great time there as well. Timing was off yet again.
URGH!/msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif

Sipapu Pictures (http://community.webshots.com/album/41079898cHvjMP)
My ride home after Sipapu (http://community.webshots.com/album/41080166wOPlJA)

[jackinkc]

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So beautiful

[27dogs]

mark,shari and i are going,gonna make a vacation out of it. we planned this last year. might even take the boys.

That's great news guys, you're gonna love it. I'm so gonna whoop you Frank! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[drivethruliquor]

I'll wager a case of Fat Tire right now that a colorado golfer wins this baby! Step up to the plate Southwest!

Well Mike, since you're not current and I can't check your PR, you have me at a slight disadvantage. However, since I know a couple of the Texas MPO reps that'll be there, and since all I have to agree to is someone other than a Colorado player winning, I'll take your bet.

I'm not allowed contractually to drink anything other than Miller Lite (the best light beer in the world and the one that started the whole "light" beer industry) or ZiegenBock (the best brown beer, brewed and available only Texas), but if you want to buy me a case of Fat Tire when you lose, I'm sure I can trade it to someone. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[ozdisc]

Well Mike I guess Mark doesn't know who you are. Have fun drinking your free case/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I look forward to seeing you again and having a throw with you. Maybe I can talk you into coming to Lubbock the week after. I'll buy the beer there.

wow, what an easy way to get a free case of beer, and fat tire too! way to go drivethroughliquor...

I dont know, he may have something.. I was planning on chartering a bus anf gathering a bunch of friends to head for the Kiss the Sky Tournament in Aspen. Talk about a difficult looking course, but too beautiful too miss. Im gonna be there, so any Houstonians interested in taking there vacation in July for about a week let me know, I plan to hit Aspen, Winter Park, Beaver Run, and several more courses while Im there. Then well see whos the best on your own turf, hee hee.. 8) I am working on my travel plans allready and its gonna be a Shindiggin good time.

beaver creek isn't it. I thought I explained this to you last night?

Ok OK, Beaver Creek it is!!! Fact o' d' matta is its gonna kik arse. I will have the details soon

can you break down the expenses so us poor boys can atleast have my enron accounts move some numbers around for me and maybe I can make it /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Awwww, blow that trip off and come to Si-pa-puuuuuuuuuuuu!

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Bunny hill. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I got 'yer bunny hill.

Forgot, I already started one. Ha ha ha.

Okay, so in case everyone hasn't read Chile's other posts, this thing's full, baby.

I emailed Bill and Sue this morning and asked them to email me a players list that I could post here.

Jim G? Willy C? Joe T? Is you is or is you ain't?

Thunder? Hope you signed up in time.

So how many TEXANS going to SSIIIPPPAPPPUUUU!?This will be my FIRST TIME!!Can't wait..

[ozdisc]

I know of an Australian that is going.

MAN!! those pictures were GREAT!! De La Vega is that NICE TOO!Can't wait.

No Chris your a Texan.

Sorry Chile, he won't claim us. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Besides, you can't really be a Texan if you refuse to say, "y'all."

Ya,your right Mark,O.K.How many people who live in Texas are going?

ROUND ROCK!!

[jasonc]

The McGoughs, myself and a couple of others were going to go, but it filled and we're stuck here!! Good luck to evryone going, I am now going to see if there's a [*****] waiting list to get on. Maybe I can talk Tonya Harding's thug into "convincing" an Ausie to stay home that weekend/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif.

I won't say it...

Keep yer yap shut...

lol...that didn't take long!

Randy, see my post on March 07, 2003 - 04:20 pm.

(Sorry 'bout the time, it couldn't be helped.)

[jasonc]

YEA YEA whatever....... I thought I was finally going to get the honor of Randy calling me an IDIOT but Mark had to step in/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[ozdisc]

Idiot/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[ozdisc]

You could always caddie for me. Then again your not cute enough. I guess I will just have to go it alone.

One big road trip. San Marcos to Sipapu to Lubbock to Dallas back to San Marcos. 3 tournaments in 3 weeks.

You better be in shape, mate, that "little bunny hill" (bite me, Randy) is gonna work you.

BTW, I'm taking OMB this year, just thought y'all should know. (Sorry Bill, second will have to be good enough this year, too. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif )

Brian Schmidt, did ya sign-up?did ya make it?

I was wondering if there is a players list by division? Mark could you shine so light on us/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif.

I was wondering if there is a players list by division? Mark could ya shine some light on us/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif Thanks.

I'm trying to get that from Bill Leslie, Chile. As soon as I get it, I'll post it, but I haven't heard back from him. I may try to give them a call today.

I working on some interesting stuff today, so I'll be pretty busy, but as soon as I know, you'll know. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Cool, Mark you are the man!

Nope, missed it.

Too BAD! Brian, I was looking forward in playing doubles that friday, but know I'll ask Joe Torres if he wants to play doubles.

Mark Atwood! PLAYERS LIST?/msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif

Mark Atwood,/msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif no list/msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif/msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif do people in Sipapu have computers?

Sorry Chile, I've been out all day. I got an email back from Bill Leslie (who evidently doesn't read the board) and he told me that he wasn't ready to post a list yet. Not real sure why.

I'll email him back this evening and ask again, but I can't post what I don't have. I'm just a player like you trying to help out on this one. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[seewhere]

make one up like this:

Jerry Perez SR. Masters
Joe Torres Open
Mark Atwood Adv Masters.

see its easy..

Jerry Perez SR. Masters
Joe Torres Open
Chris Himing Open
Mark Atwood Adv Masters

(Didn't want Chris to feel left out. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif )

Don't foreget Rene Torres- Open

Yes, we have computers at Sipapu. We just don't know how to use them! Actually I just haven't even looked at this discussion board before. What do they say, ignorance is no excuse? I will try to do better (ha! ha!). I sent the list to Mark today before I went online and checked this out. Mark will probably post this but here it is anyway. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
Bill

Player State Division
Andrew Ambrose CO Advanced Amateur
Levi Baucom OK Advanced Amateur
Kyle Bradley NM Advanced Amateur
Justin Brandenburg NM Advanced Amateur
Shay Carlisle TX Advanced Amateur
Kenny Green CO Advanced Amateur
Christopher Hickey CO Advanced Amateur
Jon Hughes AZ Advanced Amateur
Jeremy John WA Advanced Amateur
Nick Kinard CO Advanced Amateur
Mark Martinez NM Advanced Amateur
Devin Martzall NM Advanced Amateur
Marc Matlack NM Advanced Amateur
Jerry Olivier CO Advanced Amateur
Kyle Payne NM Advanced Amateur
Dustin Stoneburner CO Advanced Amateur
Matthew Webb NM Advanced Amateur
Mike Fox NM Advanced Grandmaster
Robert George NM Advanced Grandmaster
William Leslie NM Advanced Grandmaster
Storm Weems NM Advanced Grandmaster
James Atterridg CO Advanced Masters
Mark Atwood TX Advanced Masters
David Lee CO Advanced Masters
Verne Lund CO Advanced Masters
Mike Matulik CO Advanced Masters
Todd McMahon CO Advanced Masters
Jesse Ogaz NM Advanced Masters
Daryl Pike TX Advanced Masters
Mike Prillwitz CO Advanced Masters
Mike Rutledge NM Advanced Masters
Dean Wickam NM Advanced Masters
Julie Bettis-Webb NM Advanced Women
Regina Estrada TX Advanced Women
Wendy Gerner NM Advanced Women
Nina Kalin NM Advanced Women
Sue Leslie NM Advanced Women
Alex Sands NM Advanced Women
Linda Thompson CO Advanced Women
Sally West CO Advanced Women
Emmitt Bartee II TX Intermediate
John Bradley NM Intermediate
Les Buford TX Intermediate
Peter Casgar NM Intermediate
Mark Flournoy NM Intermediate
Sam Garza NM Intermediate
Troy Hanley CO Intermediate
Scott Myhr CO Intermediate
Henry Orona NM Intermediate
Michael Orona NM Intermediate
David Tremonti NM Intermediate
Tracy Wright NM Intermediate
Sean Kapalko NM Junior
Shadayn Kapalko NM Junior
Kristara Lee CO Junior
Stetson Lee CO Junior
Kurt Blackwell CO Pro
Emmett Cosgrove CO Pro
Chauncey Donaldson CO Pro
Nye Gallaway NM Pro
Jerry Harrison NM Pro
Jeffrey Hellman NM Pro
Chris Himing TX Pro
Tim King NM Pro
A.J. Kolarsick CO Pro
Jason Martin CO Pro
Mike Matlack NM Pro
Robert Middleton CO Pro
Art Moller NM Pro
Graham Moore TX Pro
Markham Reed NM Pro
Peter Sandoval NM Pro
John "Rock" Stewart TX Pro
Fred Tixier NM Pro
Jose Torres TX Pro
Rene Torres TX Pro
Tommy Trujillo CO Pro
Erik Undiks CO Pro
Spike Walker CO Pro
Wes Yusim CO Pro
Denny Borski NM Pro Masters
David Cannon SC Pro Masters
Daniel Estrada TX Pro Masters
John Hahn NM Pro Masters
Jeff Homburg AZ Pro Masters
Rick Kapalko NM Pro Masters
Art Keenom NM Pro Masters
Kurt Lampkin CO Pro Masters
Kyle Norrid TX Pro Masters
Jerry Perez Sr. TX Pro Masters
Greg Thompson CO Pro Masters
Peggy Berry CO Pro Women
Staci Charles AZ Pro Women
Nadine Cosgrove CO Pro Women
Sheila Kirkham NM Pro Women
Liz Olivier CO Pro Women
Joey Benta NM Recreational
Tim Cudahy NM Recreational
Rick Garcia NM Recreational
Zach Rutledge NM Recreational

Heard some of you want to come play Sipapu this next week. Bring your skis and snowshoes! Actually we have about 15 baskets in but there is still snow on the ground. I am leaving Friday for three weeks so you guys can talk about me while I am gone. Will think about you while I am playing courses in Nashville, Atlanta and other spots in the Smokey Mountains! Not bad for a computer idiot! I am to busy playing disc golf to worry about a little ole computer!

Bill

Thanks,ttace see ya there.

Thanks Bill!

You guys be nice to Bill and he may come and participate more often. I sent him the link to the Sipapu discussion because I was pretty sure he hadn't seen it.

Don't get too upset about the computer remark there Bill. That's just the way we talk to each other 'round here. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

And while we're busy smacking you around, Why aren't you in Adv. Masters this year? I went into the final round last year tied with you for second and blew up. I wanna rematch! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Hey Garnett, I didn't see your name on that list. Wassup? No Willy C or Kiko either.

Lots of other friends that I see there every year though, are in. Some of my favorite DG people that I only get to see once a year (Markham, Kirk, Denny, Robert and many others) along with 14 Lone Star golfers are gonna make this a great time as always.

Did I mention that I'm gonna win OMB this year? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I never get upset. I just get even! Everyone of you are starting on hole 16 or 17! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Mark, I couldn't stand the heat. I had to move to another division. You'll just have to get older! The bad part was that you let an old fart like me beat you! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Should we really break Chris in on the course and let him have the distinct privilege of starting on 17?

No Bill, make him start on #14! Start him out with a big ole number. Ha ha ha! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Or #5. That way when he's real tired at the end of the round his last walk of the round will be up to #4. Not as long as those other walks you mentioned, but a lot steeper. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

God, I gotta quit smoking soon and start playing rounds with a bag instead of my cart to get ready.

I just went through the previous responses. Those who called this a bunny hill have obviously not played it! Kiss the Sky in Aspen is great but we don't give you a lift to the top of the mountain. You have to play your way to the top! Talk about wimps!

By the way for all you procrastinators out there, there is a waiting list. Just contact me at ttace@kitcarson.net or call (505) 587-2087 and leave your name, contact no/email, and division.

We actually filled this tournament two months and one week early! It was completely amazing!

See you there! Anyone coming our way at any time, just give Sue and I notice and we will be happy to come join you. Also you can come and play our new course which will open mid-late May.
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[rshelt]

I've started on hole 5 before.

[keithjohnson]

By Mark Atwood on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 12:14 pm:
Hey Garnett, I didn't see your name on that list. Wassup?

he thought he was in arizona where you can just show up to play and thought i was kidding when i told him on friday that the thread said the event was filled

i wasn't originally ever planning to go because rhett was supposed to have an event for old guys like me the same weekend that was going to be my best shot at usdgc,but then he screwed me over also...
how about hill country flyers sponsoring me for usdgc martyr?
i'll wear your shirts, throw hill country stamped plastic and promise not to take any practice throws no matter how many putts i miss /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[johnrock]

I'll volunteer to start on hole #20 all weekend! Actually, whoever starts on hole #5 gets to make that hike a little easier by walking up the dirt road. Starting on hole #6 means that you get to make the steep hike to #5 the last agonizing steps of your round (good thing there are some seats up there to make it more comfortable to breathe in that thin mountain air). P.S.- Bill, I'll get those bridges made by the time you and Sue get back from your trip. I can't wait to see the new "Two Grey Hares" course. Have fun on your well earned vacation, take lots of pics, and get lots of birdies.

Ah, Sipa Burgers with a few cold adult beverages kicked back in the lounge upstairs with everyone crowded into the room watching the finals of the US Open on Sunday. That's the way to relax after a weekend of great mountain golf.

So many great things add up to make this my favorite several day long stretch of the year.

Now if I could just keep Michelle and the kids from spending a fortune in Taos every time we go, it'd be perfect. /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Keith, you're a funny, funny man.

Desperate, but funny. /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

[keithjohnson]

so that's a maybe? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

"Hey Garnett, I didn't see your name on that list. Wassup?"

- Procrastination is one of my forte's.
- I don't like to plan 3 months in advance, I'm a little more spontaneous then that.
- I figured/hoped that the owners would wise up and split it into two seperate weekends since this has to be a money maker for the restaurant/bar/store/hotel/etc.

I hear 'ya. I was going to procrastinate on this one too, but I never got around to it. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I didn't see DriveThruLiquor's name on there either. Guess he already owes me a case of beer. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Just send my Fat Tire to the lodge there Mike, and I'll be sure to distribute it. Thanks for playing our game. /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Hey ya'll is Sipapu a dry county?

Nope.

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[keithjohnson]

c'mon martyr ...don't leave me hanging.....


you see garnett said exactly what i said he would say only a few days later than i thought he would say it /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

i'm surprised to not see randolph on there either...he has the elevation golf down pat!(not to bad at sea level either /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif )

[jpeacock]

El Chile, They sell liquor at the store at Sipapu. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Rason we didn't split the weekends is that after taking a poll of disc golfers for several months, the majority (well over 90 percent) did not want to split it. A majority of our gofers travel together (pro and am). We also get several family groups coming as a result that we would not get otherwise. However, next year if our new course proves out, we will up the limit to 200 players. Also for those of you who have not been TD's, two weekends is a lot of extra work and planning.

We are going with what the majority voted for!/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Hey Bill, don't split the weekends. Then us lowly Ams wouldn't ever get to spend quality time with Pros like JG. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Going to sleep now to dream of 600' putter aces. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Keith, nothing personal, but if I had a sponsor exemption, I think it would go to a TX OMB for USDGC DFL. /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Keith, keep dreaming of 600' putter aces. For you maybe 60' putter aces!:o

Sue and I would like to thank all you golfers out there that make Sipapu such a great event. It is one of the reasons that we have been so involved in disc golf.

Mark, I for one agree with you about keeping it all in one weekend. I truly believe that is why we get so many entries. The interaction here is amazing, especially because we are one of the few tournaments where the vast majority stay at the site.

Just one more comment. Sipapu does not run the tournaments. They are just the venue. The tournament the last few years is being run by the Sipa Disc Golf Club which has a very limited membership. We really enjoy doing the two tournaments a year at the lodge. The course is available for other clubs to set up tournaments. :0

We are getting quite a waiting list for this tournament.

Two courses next year, 200 discgolfers next year, COOL! I'll have to make this a family trip next year.

Oops! Meant to diss Mark and not Keith./msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

However, was I right? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Thanks El Chile. That is just the kind of response we have been receiving abd hope to receive in the future. Sue and I are going to have the new course open in mid-May. We already have the anchors in and have the baskets sitting in the garage for our return from vacation.

At least our course will not be as physically challenging but it will be fun to play. It will be a pay to play course ($3 for all day).

Looking forward to seeing all you guys in the near future.

Actually, I was kind of dissing myself regarding JG smacking me about throwing Rocs on #18 instead of putters.

He's such a Pro. Maybe someday, I'll be able to putt using an A.P. AP. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

No matter what I throw on 18 I am still in trouble! If I threw a putter, I would probably wipe out everyone on the Advanced Tee!/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

> Actually, I was kind of dissing myself regarding
> JG smacking me about throwing Rocs on #18 instead
> of putters.

Actually, I threw Rocs last year. Too much wind for the putter. Got it to within 40' two out of three rounds, and clanked the putts.

Nothing prettier than a Roc flying straight and true 600' down a mountain, huh? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

(Shut up Randy!)

[jackinkc]

New course or more weekends? Man I am so mad that I am running the Wide Open on the same weekend. I want to play this course during a tourney soooo baddd.... .You guys keep moving this thread up to the top, and it irritates me so to know that I can't go! /msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif

Poor Jack! We feel so sorry for you. We will be thinking about you as we wind our way around (NOT!).

Actually, get yourself a partner and come play the state doubles at Sipapu, September 13-14. Great tournament and a great time! We even have a great Mixed Doubles Division, so you can bring your own bedwarmer./msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[jackinkc]

Hmmm.....boy that might just have to be a plan, Chiefs Play Pittsburgh here though.....might be hard to miss that game since they are my two favorite teams.....but ahh to dream. Will I feel like I am there by wearing the t-shirt from there?

I have dreams about it still as well, does that count? Doubles.......Doubles.....hmmmm......might have to come up with a game plan for it. Is there en ough space to bring the whole family and possibly another family? How many rooms are available at the inn? I should also ask, how many teams will be in, since you already are full for this event, when does registration open for the other event?

URGH!! I want to play!

Entry forms are available at www.sipapunm.com. (http://www.sipapunm.com.) To check on lodging availability call (800) 587-2240. The resort can accommodate up to 250 people. Last check showed plenty of rooms available. We are just beginning the registration process and will have credit card registration after we get back in late May. We can take up to 60 teams. We only lacked two teams of filling last year.

Turn your URGH! into AHH!

Well guys, we are off for three weeks to Nashville and the Smokey Mountains. Have fun and keep the discs flying!

Have fun Bill and Sue. We'll see you guys soon. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[grambo]

well, less than a month now, you other flatlanders getting your legs in shape?

maybe some aerobic exercise wouldn't hurt

or those high-altitude pills, if you have a good doctor

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I've been playing some rounds with the bag instead of the cart. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I'm definitely not ready though. Been back on the vitamin supplements for a couple of weeks and I've dropped a few pounds (quit the sodas and I've had less than a six pack of beer since the week before Waco /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif). Water, water, water!

Got to put the smokes back down. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[jpeacock]

Mark, I want a 16th New Mex Championships T shirt. Remind me at the LV mini and I will give you money. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif JP

[grambo]

smokes may be allowed this year!
last i heard, no fire restrictions

of course, there's still the gasping for air, the unpleasant burning in the chest, and the troubling loss of sensation in the extremities, but it's only a few times a day...

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[johnrock]

So far no fire restrictions. I was up there this past weekend (Sat. thru Mon.) and it rained most of the day Sunday. The river is RAGING! If you go in the drink on #2, #4, or #19, you might not find it until winter time (when you get to use your free lift ticket from the players package-so get your SNOWBOARDS waxed up and ready to go), and then it might be down river at Bill & Sue's place, or it might just make it's way all the way down to the Rio Grande, and then you might be able to get it out on a float trip in Big Bend Nat. Park (wishful thinking, I'd like to float the Bend sometime). By the way, I got to witness a 2 on hole 14 Sunday afternoon after the rain, during a round of doubles (Kyle Norrid hit a long approach after a 245' drive by Morgan ?-not sure of his last name but he's from Albuquerque). Par on that hole is great!

[johnrock]

Oh yeah, if you smoke, please use the trash cans for your butts. I saw a few left-overs laying around and if the Forest Service people see them, were all in trouble.

Oh great, and just when I'm trying to quit. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif In case anyone has failed to notice the pronounced reduction in Martyr Post Smilies (not bloody likely), I've been a little testy the last couple of days due to my 4th attempt in five years to avoid nicotine. The first one lasted 3 years, the others have been much less impressive. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

A 2 on 14? Dazamn! That's awesome, doubles or not! The 14th NMSC artwork/t-shirts used #14 as its theme. Don't remember without looking at it, but the stats on that hole were listed and I don't remember many 2's (single digits). In fact, there were Some 3's, a big 'o bunch of 4's, plenty of 5's, some 6's and 7's, and even an 8 or two.

Wicked, but doable badass hole. Alot of the holes out there (most, in fact), are different than what you'll find on most other courses, so its hard to say they have just one signature hole. But, if there was, #14 would be a top vote getter.

#18 is just beautiful. I can't tell you how bad I wanna park a Roc on a 600' hole. Hopefully I'll make JG proud this year. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

#5 is one of my faves too. Really would be a good hole to spot on. You'd get to see everything from bonus 2's and good 3's, to some much higher scores that included some bad luck, bad shots, bad bounces and some most non-triumphant rollaways.

#2 is one of the courses shorter holes, but where else do you get to throw through a window of pines and aspens, downhill toward a swiftly running, ice cold mountain creek?


#4 is a cold blooded killer. Its a tough and unforgivingly tight hole, back over the creek, through a ton of trees and ends in a basket mounted on a very steep grade. Then, as you're walking away and heading toward #5, you can hear it laughing at you as you struggle to breathe and climb to the next tee, probably the most brutal stretch of walking on the course. This hole haunts me.

#...sorry, I digress...nice two!


Can you tell I'm ready? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Yeah Mark that walk from #4 to #5 is a killer, at least for this flatlander. It gets kind of hard to throw when you can hardly catch your breath, must be the breathtaking views all over the course. Can't wait to get there.

Whats the temp.like?and can we take a BBQ pit a small one of course?or is one provided?I hear that Chris Himing is punking out.

[grambo]

Take your own BBQ pit, as long as no fire restrictions, then was OK before
They have fire pits, but no good grate on top, eh?
Temperature can be cold at night (28 degrees two years ago), probably around 40
Highs were hot last year, but this year looks cooler
Weather.com says june 7 will be 74/42 at Vadito, NM, the closest post office
With the rain Rock says they've had, probably mosquitos in the woods

Cool, Grambo, see ya there.

[ozdisc]

Some people actually have to work Jerry so that more disc golf events can happen for players like you.

I am sacrificing going to New Mexico so I can concentrate on putting on a quality event in Lubbock the following weekend then the week after a PDGA B-tier in Dallas. 3 1/2 weeks on the road is not what I can afford right now. My 2 events would suffer and I will not allow that to happen.

Think of the positive, you do not have to share a house with me snoring now/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[dizzard]

just got back from sipapu tonite. the weather was great and they have had some rain so there is no fire restrictions right now but the lincoln national forest has a no fire ban right now. left my blue omega supper soft in a tall poderosa pine on 19. anyone from austin who sees it i would love to get it back. thanks.

[grambo]

WELLLL, WEE'RRE WWAITING!
- judge smails, caddyshack

[grambo]

ok, one week to go, and no smack talk from anyone!

why are you NM golfers so QUIET?
is it the lack of oxygen up there?

I thought when Bill showed up, there'd be non-stop chatter on this thread...

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[marcace]

It's because CRUZITA isn't playing /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

4 days until we get there. Lookin forward to the time off work and playing in Lubbock in the A.M. on wednesday.

[marcace]

We are going to have a regular mini that morning! You guys be safe gettin here. I'm not sure what time we are playing but, I think around 8 or 9.

[grambo]

marcace, when are you going to make an appearance at Sipapu? It's no farther than Moody's, eh?

7838, you're right, only 4 days!

no AM lubbock for me, staying in Clovis, lunch in Las Vegas (NM), afternoon round at Sipapu!

i'll be in the bag by the time you guys get there
although i might hold off for a money round, cause I can't go up that hill after more than a couple beers

we're in 9D

[johnrock]

After a trek up and down that hill, cold beer hits the spot. Stop by the DiscCrazy room (not sure which room we're in, but we will be there early Friday afternoon-look for my big white four door pickup) and help us drain a keg of Shiner Bock while you're checking out the latest wares from DiscCrazy (cheap plug for the sponsor). Maybe we can set up some of our portable baskets and get into a little putter wagering (Shay Carlilse is still talking about taking a few bucks from everyone last year with his 100ft. putter ace).

O.K. who else is is wussin out, Chris Himing, Rene?

ttace, how's the weather like for the week?

TTace whats the weather like for the week?

Rene's wussing? Bummer. I just had Chelle check the weather and they're calling for scattered T-storms 30% chance Friday-Tuesday. I'm kinda bummed about it, but I'd rather be rained on in Sipapu than anywhere else. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Right now its 66 degrees. The forecast for the tourney is calling for low temps in the high 30's to low 40's and high temps in the mid 70's.

Ha, Ha, Ha! I beat Seewhere to it! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I hope Rene doesn't wuss out/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif Joe any luck with Rene?

[marcace]

can I have Rene's spot?

Sorry guys but I ain't skeered and I sure ain't wussin out. I'll be there tomorrow afternoon ready to kick some arse and have a nice lil vacation away from work. See y'all there.

[nix]

atta boy!

Ok Guys! Here are the final results. The course beat me up this time, but others had grat scores.

Final Standings
16th New Mexico Disc Golf Championships
Division Advanced Amateur
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. Devin Martzall 65 55 57 177 20158
Red River, NM
2. Kevin Metzler 58 65 57 180 17065
Breckenridge, CO
3. Gabe Franklin 62 62 61 185 17238
Albuquerque, NM
4. Kenny Greene 71 61 61 193 22618
Highland Ranch, CO
5. Kyle Bradley 65 63 66 194
Red River, NM
6. Shay Carlisle 65 62 69 196 20162
Amarillo, TX
7. Levi Baucom 68 72 59 199 20283
Tulsa, OK
8. Mark Martinez 65 65 70 200 16571
Red River, NM
9. Matthew Webb 65 66 70 201 10924
Moriarty, NM
10. Jeremy John 70 73 60 203 18244
Federal Way, WA
Jon Hughes 70 64 69 203 16698
Chandler, AZ
12. Marc Matlack 62 75 67 204 16678
Bernalillo, NM
Christopher Hickey 66 68 70 204
Frisco, CO
14. Jerry Olivier 72 63 71 206 20349
Durango, CO
15. Andrew Ambrose 71 66 73 210 21871
Bayfield, CO
16. Cerro Johnson 77 64 71 212
Mesilla, NM
17. Nick Kinard 70 68 75 213 16402
Arvada, CO
18. Kyle Payne 76 74 71 221 20670
Red River, NM
Monday, June 16, 2003 Page 1 of 6
Final Standings
16th New Mexico Disc Golf Championships
19. Justin Brandenburg 75 70 77 222 20288
Red River, NM
Division Advanced Masters
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. Mike Matulik 62 63 68 193 21781
Arvada, CO
2. Verne Lund 63 66 66 195 16374
Ft. Collins, CO
3. David Lee 66 64 66 196 13988
Carbondale, CO
4. Todd McMahon 65 66 68 199 11685
Denver, CO
5. Robert George 70 67 64 201 17581
Albuquerque, NM
6. Daryl Pike 65 77 67 209 11538
Amarillo, TX
Jesse Ogaz 69 66 74 209 17154
Las Cruces, NM
8. Dean Wickam 76 68 67 211 16235
Albuquerque, NM
Mike Fox 69 69 73 211 7305
Santa Fe, NM
10. Mike Prillwitz 74 72 67 213 18858
Arvada, CO
William Leslie 70 71 72 213 14073
Vadito, NM
Division Advanced Women
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. Nina Kalin 71 67 66 204
Santa Fe, NM
2. Sally West 69 69 67 205 22235
Durango, CO
Linda Thompson 70 65 70 205 21509
Durango, CO
4. Julie Bettis-Webb 67 68 72 207 22397
Moriarty, NM
Monday, June 16, 2003 Page 2 of 6
Final Standings
16th New Mexico Disc Golf Championships
5. Regina Estrada 67 69 80 216 20247
Hereford, TX
6. Wendy Gerner 74 72 72 218
Santa Fe, NM
7. Alex Sands 81 72 70 223
Albuquerque, NM
8. Sue Leslie 81 74 81 236 16078
Vadito, NM
Division Intermediate
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. David Tremonti 60 72 67 199 21791
Roswell, NM
2. Henry Orona 62 73 68 203
Roswell, NM
3. John Bradley 63 73 70 206 22985
Vadito, NM
4. Sam Garza 62 72 74 208
Roswell, NM
5. Peter Casgar 61 75 73 209
Red River, NM
6. Tracy Wright 61 72 78 211 21289
Mesilla, NM
7. Mark Flournoy 66 73 76 215
Vadito, NM
8. Scott Myhr 70 80 75 225
Westminster, CO
9. Michael Orona 67 74 87 228
Roswell, NM
Division Junior
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. Sean Kapalko 62 66 63 191 19453
Belen, NM
2. Stetson Lee 80 71 69 220 21698
Carbondale, CO
3. Kristara Lee 75 71 76 222 21699
Carbondale, CO
Monday, June 16, 2003 Page 3 of 6
Final Standings
16th New Mexico Disc Golf Championships
Division Pro
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. Chauncey Donaldson 56 51 50 157 7172
Arvada, CO
2. Peter Sandoval 55 53 51 159 7302
Chimayo, NM
3. Emmett Cosgrove 58 55 53 166 16352
Breckenridge, CO
4. Jeff Pope 60 56 54 170 11820
Santa Fe, NM
Nye Gallaway 57 59 54 170
Albuquerque, NM
6. Tim King 58 56 58 172 21966
Albuquerque, NM
7. Carey Gallaway 58 61 57 176 14637
Albuquerque, NM
Jose Torres 60 53 63 176 12196
Austin, TX
9. John "Rock" Stewart 62 56 59 177 4693
Amarillo, TX
Markham Reed 59 56 62 177 7761
Albuquerque, NM
Tomas Sandoval 58 56 63 177 10938
Chimayo, NM
12. Jerry Harrison 56 58 64 178 12338
Albuquerque, NM
13. Graham Moore 62 57 63 182 9711
Austin, TX
14. Wes Yusim 63 62 61 186 7309
Denver, CO
Patrick Snipes 60 61 65 186 22252
Albuquerque, NM
16. Erik Undiks 63 61 64 188 16112
Wheatridge, CO
17. Art Moller 68 61 63 192 14778
Sandia Park, NM
Mike Matlack 64 64 64 192 16677
Albuquerque, NM
Monday, June 16, 2003 Page 4 of 6
Final Standings
16th New Mexico Disc Golf Championships
Jason Martin 62 66 64 192 12071
Guffey, CO
20. Bobby "Dakota" Giago 63 68 62 193 5896
Santa Fe, NM
21. Kurt Blackwell 69 65 64 198 6358
Pine, CO
22. Spike Walker 68 67 66 201 7001
Denver, CO
23. Rene Torres 69 67 66 202 7838
Austin, TX
24. Fred Tixier 70 66 68 204 9464
Santa Fe, NM
25. Tommy Trujillo 68 71 68 207
Montrose, CO
Division Pro Masters
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. Kyle Norrid 56 56 58 170 14876
Amarillo, TX
2. Rick Kapalko 61 57 58 176 9680
Albuquerque, NM
3. Kurt Lampkin 63 58 56 177 1471
Durango, CO
4. Jerry Perez Sr. 58 59 61 178 9957
Austin, TX
5. Jeff Homburg 59 61 63 183 1025
Tucson, AZ
6. David Cannon 60 66 59 185 14069
Columbia, SC
Greg Thompson 61 63 61 185 14012
Durango, CO
8. Kiko Velasquez 65 59 62 186 5013
Albuquerque, NM
9. Art Keenom 63 63 63 189 10119
Albuquerque, NM
10. John Reed 62 63 65 190 14499
Albuquerque, NM
11. Denny Borski 64 68 65 197 12720
Ranchos de Taos, NM
Monday, June 16, 2003 Page 5 of 6
Final Standings
16th New Mexico Disc Golf Championships
12. John Marshall 72 64 63 199 531
13. James Paulk 69 74 68 211 7951
Amarillo, TX
14. Daniel Estrada 73 75 65 213 12628
Hereford, TX
15. John Hahn 69 84 72 225 1009
Albuquerque, NM
Division Pro Women
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. Nadine Cosgrove 69 63 64 196 16353
Breckenridge, CO
2. Sheila Kirkham 63 70 69 202 7646
Albuquerque, NM
3. Liz Olivier 72 73 72 217 20350
Durango, CO
4. Staci Charles 82 77 79 238 16697
Chandler, AZ
Division Recreational
Place Players Round Round 2 Round Total PDGA No.
1. Mark Atwood 57 59 59 175 16523
Burnet, TX
2. Joey Benta 71 66 62 199
Roswell, NM
Tim Cudahy 62 68 69 199
El Prado, NM
4. Rick Garcia 67 71 71 209
Red River, NM
Monday, June 16, 2003 Page 6 of 6

Now who's the bagger? Mark!

[mitchjustice]

24 strokes...bagger...I am guessing different tees for rec., or would Atwood have cashed in pro?/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[J A B]

Dammm Atwood, You didn't let those boys up for air, did ya? Move up bagger!

Just so you guys know where chatterbox TT Ace was prior to the tournament, somebody had to set it up for you! Also we were trying to and succeeded in getting our new course (Two Gray Hares Disc Golf Course) in. Come on and try it out! You will have to play it next year! Looks like 200 disc golfers in one spot. Ouch! Think this old fart will go take a nap.

[johnrock]

Way to go,Bill! Thanks for all of your work to both Sue and you. Also congrats to Jessie O. for doing a great job. I had a great weekend and even got to split a room with New Mexico's newest Master's Champion, Kyle Norrid from Amarillo, TX.-way to go "Lefty". Also to the other players from Amarillo who played well enough to place in the money, way to represent! Can't wait for Doubles in September.

Well...Mark put the ratings system to the test on that one! lmao

Nice shooting Atwood. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Looks like you're ready to play big daddy.

[jeffash]

Man, that Atwood kid will be one to keep an eye out for!
He looks like a real up-and-comer./clipart/proud.gif

[rshelt]

If he played the same tees as the intermediate, then he is truly a bagger.

lol...Russel...if you only knew! Actually, he's playing in his ratings bracket...and he is old. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[gnduke]

Congratulations Mark,

Now are you coming back where you belong ? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

roflmao...speech speech

Just walked in from a 14 hour freakin' drive. I'll save the speech for the next daylight I'm awake for Dave, but suffice it to say I'm extremely pleased with the ratings experiment. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Seriously, I played way over my head. Middle tees, yes, but you still gotta put the biscuit in the basket and keep your discs from rolling down the mountain.

Winning for the first time ever was nice, but here's what I'm more proud of than anything:

7 bogeys all weekend and nothing higher

12 birdies (if my math's right)

Under par for the first time ever in a tournament round (no matter which division I was playing) and was under par each of the three rounds

Of course, Wednesday I shot something like 19 over in L-town so I'm not sure which golfer will show up come tourney time, but that was definitely the best I've ever played, regardless of the tees or the division.

Gotta go sleep now. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[seewhere]

CONGRATS Mark.

[ching_lizard]

Congrats Martyr! Way to put 3 solids rounds in a row together! (I occasionally have a good round or two, but putting them all together at one time is rare for me! /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif )

We're expecting a full trip report soon!

First things first, Thanks Russel. I've been waiting nearly 4 years to do something good enough to be called a bagger. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

To answer your question, The Rec and the Intermediate divisions did play one round from the same tees. After the first round the TD moved them to the Pro tees, as you can probably see by the jump in scores from 1st to 2nd. As for me bagging the Int.'s, who knows. I was leading Rec by 5 and Int. by 3 after round one, but there's no telling what would've happened if I'd been in that division. I'll find out soon enough though. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

As for the tournament, those of you who haven't gone are missing out on one of the greatest disc golf experiences out there. Period! The course is awesome, demanding, physical and breath taking. I've said this before, but no matter what kind of round I'm having there, I just stop and look around and there's no place else I'd rather be. The Carson National Forest is truly a wonderful place and the Sangre De Cristo Mtns. are suhweeet.

Thanks to Jesse and his staff for putting on a great show as always. This is my third year there and its always a great time.

The reason I played so well is that I minimized my mental mistakes. That's it. There's the secret to disc golf. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif Of course, my friends have been telling me this for a long time, I'd just never figured it out until Saturday. I sure hope I don't forget it.

[ck34]

Quick ratings calcs for Mark's rounds: 825, 810 and 835....<FONT SIZE="-2">(just kidding)</FONT>

And C-dub didn't take a shot at me for bagging. That ought to tell y'all something. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[seewhere]

yepper. good shootin. I am just waiting for my rating to drop 4 more points than I am pulling a HOUSTON and going back to ADV. so I can try and win for once.

Thanks for your support there, Chuck. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I don't know if one good tourney will bump my rating up to the next level or not. Especially when they get around to including that ridiculous finish in Waco.

Which reminds me, who are you calling old Randy, you aging hipster you?

One last thing about NMDGC, even though there are only four guys listed in the results, there were five in our division. The guy that had a pretty good hold on 2nd place just didn't show up on Sunday. Not sure why he's not listed. And, out of the five, three of them could throw further than me. I just threw in the right places for a change. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Mark,
Congratulations /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif Glad to see you having fun again. Should be great leader card experience for you and good mental control as well. All of your competitors being able to throw farther than you will hopefully teach you something. Minimizing the mistakes is what this game is all about. Coming off of a mistake and getting back on track and stopping the bleeding is what it is all about. Way to represent./msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[grambo]

Congrats, Mark, short tees or not, you still had to keep it between the trees and putt on those hilly greens.

Congrats to John Rock for what I think was the only bogey-free round of the tournament.
His par putt on 18 from about 50 feet, facing downhill oblivion, was the only possible glitch that I saw. But of course he made it.

I claim the longest drive on 18. It was exactly 100 paces down the hill past the basket. That makes it about 885 feet. Woohoo. Still a bogey, though /msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif

Gram,Mark, glad to see that you all made safe and sound,it sure is HOT here in Austin/msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif I'm going back next year/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif Mark did you leave ALL the sand in N.M.? 4th. place not bad for my first time,All Round Rockers should go to this event.You will never forget this wonderful place/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif Joe and Rene thanks for being great traveling buddies./msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif its 220 you what that means its 420 somewhere/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Chile, enough about the MA3 winner, let's hear more about that battle for 2nd in Pro Masters! Sounds like it must've been a helluva last hole.

P.S. Don't worry about the sand. This little ratings experiment is designed to get me back to where I belong and maybe be able to hang with you old guys that play for money someday.

Me, a sandbagger. Now THAT is funny. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Congrats Mark, ya the three of us were tied on the last hole and I was going for second no tie and I hit a tree limb and was kicked behind some trees and HAD to settle for a boggie/msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif but considering everything I did play well/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif I should play better next year/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif it was ahellofa course.

[johnrock]

Thanks Graham, that has to be my best round ever there (not score wise but bogey-free). My own little slice of history. In six years of NM States held at Sipapu, that is the first bogey-free round turned in, by anyone, even the top players who have been there. I was nervous about that putt on 18, but I told myself "Just hit the red tape and there is no drop-off behind the basket". I got a little conservative on the last few holes because that bogey-free thing was stuck in my mind, but I wish I would have attacked the birdie putts more aggressively and maybe I could have moved up to 7th or 8th place. Actually, what's more dissappointing than where I finished, was that out of all the people staying at Sipapu that weekend, we could not finish that keg of Shiner! We're going to try again at the Top Of Texas Open (August 23-24) and everyone is invited to help us try to get it right this time.

[grambo]

well darn, Rock, you shoulda brought that keg over to the awards ceremony
we floated the one there, whatever it was, some darker stuff, good

and forget about shoulda-woulda on the birdies, you can't be running at 'em if you're not ready to bogey

besides, it wasn't your missed birdies in the BF round that kept you from moving farther up /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[grambo]

And yes, Chile, it is HOT and MUGGY here in Austin
It was hard to breathe up there, but down here it's like being underwater. In a hot tub.
I love it
/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Peter Sandoval shot bogey free during the last round. He also had to make a great putt on #18 after his birdie putt flew down the mountain.

It sure looks like you guys had such a terrible time at our tournament!/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Mark, the reason that Zack dropped out was that his father who is a doctor had to return to Farmington to handle some kind of medical emergency. Also he did not show up in the standings as I do not post those who DNF.

Congrats Rock on your bogey free round. Must have been because you didn't finish the keg of Shiner!/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Thanks everyone for the great comments. Next year we will make it a little tougher by bringing out the mountain lions and flooding the river! Don't want you to get complacent!

[mitchjustice]

Let me get this right...there was a disc golf event with beer left over...now that is hard to believe/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[vinnie]

it wasn't in Texas!!!
Heck it was more than likely that weak beer that makes you pee alot

We are going back next year!,but might be staying at a different lodge site or camp grounds unless they lower there rates for discgolfers.Gram are you going next year?

[johnrock]

I guess you're right, a SIX on hole #5 in the third round didn't help my effort to move up! Even though I drove to the top of the hill, the dang trees kept sending me back to the bottom. I guess you could say I got Sipapu-ed! Plus spending time in the trees on #12 and #13 is not the way to a podium spot. I've got 360 more days to work out the details for a better finish next year. Let's see, it goes something like - drive and putt, drive and putt, drive and putt...