NY states goes onto super tour -- October 4&5 2003

Dan Doyle and I are excited to announce that the 2003 New York States @ Warwick will be an "A" tier event....we have filled the past 3 years, disc TV was in the house this year...next year...can you say $50 tee sponsorships?......BN

[morgan]

Can you say, by invite only? Can you say, must qualify in points and rating to be invited?

Well, I can always be in the gallery or caddy for somebody...

Great news Bill! Much thanks to you and Dan for all the hard work you guys put into setting everything up.

Yeah, Warwick!

[keithjohnson]

morgan...he said a tier not national tour...you can still play unless he doesn't want you to /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Keith, are you trying to say that a Supertour TD can't require qualifying?

[jconnell]

I think Morgan's point was that this tournament filled and filled quickly the last 3 years when it was a C-tier then a B-tier...and that was mostly locals.

Now that it's an A-tier, it's going to draw people in from a even larger radius, thus making it even tougher to get into the tournament.

--Josh

[keithjohnson]

MORGAN SAID THIS......i don't know what he was TRYING to say.only what HE DID SAY

By Morgan Wright on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 05:22 pm:
Can you say, by invite only? Can you say, must qualify in points and rating to be invited?

qualify in points and rating to be invited...i don't think supertours REQUIRE THAT ...yet anyways

I think he's implying that this particular one will.

[jconnell]

I think he was making one of his many many attempts at tongue-in-cheek humor.

He in no way has any power or authority to make decisions for that event.

Geez, so literal on this thread. /clipart/crazy.gif

--Josh

[morgan]

Yeah. I was just messing with your head.

If nothing else Morg., thanks for keeping this dull thread going , and going and.............PS I want Hyzer creek to have the honor of being our first $100 tee sponsor....so feel free to send me a check as soon as you can....

[morgan]

Yeah, then I will make a plaque honoring FDR Park at the first course to sponsor a pin at Hyzer Creek.

[keithjohnson]

hey i'm the one that kept it going by giving morgan a hard time....i hope to get to meet him and others up there when i come to jersey at xmas time....i wiant to play warwick.....keith

Bill, any truth to the rumor that AMs will play a different weekend and it will be only for pros? Or will the cutoff for AMs depend on how many pros show up first?

If I get a tee sign sponsor will that guarantee that I get to play? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Dan, no seperate weekend, we hopefully will not be able to to accept that many non-pros. I say hopefully, cuz we want/need alot of pros to make the pro purse ($) requirements. If you get a tee sponsor and pre reg early enuf that will gaurantee you a spot..BN...ps dont forget about trying to get a basket sponsor for FDR...and thanks again for the help, it means alot to have a good turnout and get ALOT of work done..

or, of course, you could play pro...

PPS tee sponsorships will be $100

[morgan]

So, if I sponsor a tee and play in the pro master division and sign up a year early, I get to play an A-Tier event even though I [*****]? Sweet.

Hell Morgan, you can probably sign up on the day-of and play the Minnesota Majestic.

[keithjohnson]

posted on another thread....
By BILL NEWMAN on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 10:55 pm:
All NY states 2003(PDGA A) sponsorship checks ($100 per tee you wish to sponsor) can be sent to: Bill Newman 30 Laurelton Rd. Mt. Kisco NY 10549.
send whatever artwork/type etc (if any ) that you want on your tee as well...many thanks BN and the Skylands DGC

are the flyers out for this event yet???
it will be probably be one of 2 out of state events for me this year...my daughter is out of school for 3 weeks and since no one is sponsoring for the usdgc..it looks like i'll just have to make warwick my rock hill...
please send me a flyer or a link to one so i can send in my entry...thanks
keith

ok, now that the Animal fest is a sweet and soggy memory, its time to turn to the NY STATES....Im looking to line up as many $100 Tee sponsors as soon as I can, then try to hit up a bunch more folks to really add a nice amount to the payout. here's who is in so far...


Jason Southwick/Pryamids $100
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek $100
Innova $100
Discraft $100
Revolution Bags $100
Mid Atlantic Disc Club $200
Newman family $100
FDR Park Doubles $100

so were at $900 added allready! woohoo
anybody out there who's got a business or a friend or a family member or a trust fund that can afford $100 to sponsor a tee, please get in touch. You'll get a nice laminated sign on "your" hole, and about a million mentions on this and other boards, you also will be listed in the event program etc etc...the deposit in your Karma account will be substantial. You will be supporting a wonderful course and a well established and well attended event. PDGA "A" tier, MADCI Qualifier and NEFA sanctioned. thanks for the support. Finally any and all questions and for info about volunteering opportunities at this event-get in touch! BN

PS my e-mail is now BillNewman@optonline.net

[morgan]

I can't wait until NY States grows to be bigger than Worlds. Bigger payouts, bigger field, bigger honor, bigger in every way.

Keep it coming Bill, Dan. Who will be the first million-dollar winner in disc golf? Who will be the first disc golf millionaire?

Warwick, the Wimbledon of disc golf.

add Jim Santoro/Dan Howard to the list of sponsors and were at $1000 added...flyer will be attached to the sched on www.nefa.net (http://www.nefa.net) and www.madisc.org (http://www.madisc.org) shortly

sponsorship update---- were up to $1200 added, thanks to our newest sponsors:
Mitch sonderfan, his brother and friend Aaron-$100
Jim Santoro and Dan Howard -$100
FDR doubles 11-2-03 PPDGA XC -$100


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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason S/Pryamids $100
Morgan W./Hyzer Creek $100
Innova $100
Discraft $100
Revolution Bags $100
Mid Atlantic Disc Club $200
Newman family $200
Sonderfans & Aaron $100
Santoro/Howard $100
FDR Dubs 11-2-03 PDGA XC $100

all Tee sponsors will be supporting a fine event at a premier course, will be listed in the program, be rewarded with major Karma enhancements, get their name on a nice sign on one of the tees and be very appreciated by all.
thanks to all sponsors, so far

the flyer for the event is now linked to the schedule on both www.Madisc.org (http://www.Madisc.org) and www.nefa.com (http://www.nefa.com)

NYS Prereg...(so Far)

Steve Ditter Advanced

Sponsorship update:
Thanks Craig Cutler!

Cutler Financial Services, LLC $100

$1300 so far.........

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason S/Pryamids $100
Morgan W./Hyzer Creek $100
Innova $100
Discraft $100
Revolution Bags $100
Mid Atlantic Disc Club $200
Newman family $200
Sonderfans & Aaron $100
Santoro/Howard $100
FDR Dubs 11-2-03 PDGA XC $100
Cutler Financial services, LLC $100

Sponsorship and NYS prereg...(so far)

Steve Ditter Advanced
Nick Newman Advanced

Morgan Wright Pro Masters


Sponsorship update:
Thanks John Houck !

World Doubles-Circle R2 Ranch, San Saba Disc Golf Ranch, San Saba, Tx. -- $100

$1400 so far.........

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason S/Pryamids $100
Morgan W./Hyzer Creek $100
Innova $100
Discraft $100
Revolution Bags $100
Mid Atlantic Disc Club $200
Newman family $200
Sonderfans & Aaron $100
Santoro/Howard $100
FDR Dubs 11-2-03 PDGA XC $100
Cutler Financial services, LLC $100
World Dubs, Circle R2-San Saba DG Ranch $100

Sponsorship update:

Thanks Dave Jones and Family---$100


$1500 so far.........

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason S/Pryamids $100
Morgan W./Hyzer Creek $100
Innova $100
Discraft $100
Revolution Bags $100
Mid Atlantic Disc Club $200
Newman family $200
Sonderfans & Aaron $100
Santoro/Howard $100
FDR Dubs 11-2-03 PDGA XC $100
Cutler Financial services, LLC $100
World Dubs, Circle R2-San Saba DG Ranch $100
Dave Jones and Family $100

NYS prereg

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas

PRO MASTERS
Morgan Wright
Dan Doyle

$1500 added so far
thanks to Little Flyers $100 sponsorship

sorry thats $1600..........

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids $100
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek $100
Innova $100
Discraft $100
Revolution Bags $100
Mid Atlantic Disc Club $200
Newman family $200
Sonderfans & Aaron $100
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard $100
FDR Dubs 11-2-03 PDGA XC $100
Cutler Financial services, LLC $100
World Dubs, Circle R2-San Saba DG Ranch $100
Dave Jones and Family $100
Little Flyers $100

$1800 added (so far)

FDR park ICE BOWL 2004 , plus NEFA are on board and will each sponsor a hole...........

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club
Newman family
Sonderfans & Aaron
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Dubs,Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc.
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004


NYS Prereg:

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas

PRO MASTERS
Morgan Wright
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain

The flyer for this event is available at www.Madisc.org (http://www.Madisc.org) or www.Nefa.com (http://www.Nefa.com)

Just played the Warwick Course (Thursday, 7/3, with my 7 year odl son). A great course and a model for other course designers to follow! However, I wish I could say as much for the directions on the web. Spent 45 minutes driving around before I found someone at the Gulf station in Warwick who knew what I was looking for. If you head north on 94/17A out of Warwick, turn left at the Sunoco Station onto Grand Street (this eventually becomes Pine Island Turnpike). Take Grand for about 4 miles, where it will veer hard left. Turn right at the veer (there is a sign for Warwick Town Park). The park is about 1 mile on the right. Hope this helps. I didn't see any of the landmarks or roads found on the web directions.
Also, I found a set of keys for a Jeep (with remote access control) on a yellow rope climbing clasp. I left them in the box on the back of the sign board by hole 1's tee. Hope they get back to their rightful owner.

[Moderator005]

Joe,

On the Warwick page on the PDGA Course Directory, did you click on the "Course Message Data Bank?" If so, you would have found directions to Warwick from just about every major locale within two hours of the course.

[warwickdan]

Cloud Man...Glad to hear you enjoyed your visit to our wonderful course. hearing comments like yours helps make all the work worthwhile. as for the directions, there may not be super directions from downtown warwick because to get into downtown warwick you had to have taken one of several other main roads. there are directions from those main roads posted at various websites. warwick is the 2nd or 3rd largest town in the state of new york in terms of square miles. most of the town is back-country scenic roads so it's hard to provide directions from every possible point. one day everyone in warwick will know about the course and anyone will be able to get you to the course. thanks for enjoying our course!! dan doyle

$2200 added...so far

I'm happy to say that with Dave Balkeema/Jen Jenson,J-Bird Discs, Joe Proud and Terry West on board, we will be adding at least $2200 @ NYSTATES....thanks to those folks for the support!

More $100 tee sponsors needed...
$2200 added so far!

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club
Newman family
Sonderfans & Aaron
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles ,Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc.
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen

We are 2 weeks before the USDGC, so come check out the course. World class layouts, 2 baskets and 2 tees on each hole. Wolfe Woods course in the works.

were up to $2400 so far!
thank you Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting for your support and tee sponsorship!
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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club
Newman family
Sonderfans & Aaron
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles ,Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc.
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen
Disc Golf Association
Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting

CE Starfires from INNOVA are on their way.with a custom NYStates J-Bird stamp...these are special fundraiser Discs

The DGA will also be sponsoring, by providing a Mach 5 Pole Hole with a red finish at a special price, we will be doing our usual CTP contest with this basket as first prize...thanks Disc Golf Assoc.!

an updated flyer for this event can be found at www.madisc.org (http://www.madisc.org) linked to the schedule listing..

[morgan]

let's link it in blue for the people:

<a href="http://www.madisc.org" target="_blank">www.madisc.org (http://www.madisc.org)</A>

nice color

CE Starfires are in. I'll bring em to the JERSEY JAM this weekend--they are fundraisier CE plastic....custom stamped by Innova (NY STATES -J-Bird mini stamp)for A tiers and majors....$20, with all proceeds going to added cash at NY states in october......they also made some CE Archangels, some of which are very clear

$2500 added (so Far)thanks to Anthony "TJ" Barber &amp; Colonial Supplemental Insurance, sponsoring a tee....
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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club
Newman family
Sonderfans &amp; Aaron
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles ,Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc.
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen
Disc Golf Association
Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting
"TJ" Barber-Colonial Supplemental Ins.

[mattdisc]

Newman I'll take a starfire on saturday, I'll be there around 8.

[neonnoodle]

Bill, you know my dillio; Buy one of mine, I buy one of yours...

[keithjohnson]

hey jeff la grassa or nick...could you get or send with jeff a starfire with the ny states stamp....i'll give jeff the cash at flagstaff when he gives me the madc disc he is getting from nick...thanks...keith

$2600 added--thanks Borderlands, Ma. crew and TJ Barber
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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club
Newman family
Sonderfans &amp; Aaron
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles ,Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc.
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen
Disc Golf Association
Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting
"TJ" Barber-Colonial Supplemental Ins.
Borderlands Disc Golf

NYS Prereg:

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas

OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen

ADV MASTERS
Morgan Wright

[neonnoodle]

That's up to Jeff and Bill. I'll have your 2003 MADC Series CE Teebird TL ready for delivery.

What was the color and weight you wanted again. Pick two colors incase I don't have one.

Grape and Blue Berry are wiped out.

Click Here To View Discs (http://www.madisc.org/graphics/proshop/JRs2.jpg)

[keithjohnson]

it was cherry and 174-175 grams...thanks....keith

bill....if you could get one to jeff lagrassa i can send you the check......you know i'm good for it.........thanks....keith

[neonnoodle]

Got it. Thanks for your support. Really.

[keithjohnson]

no problem....i'm always willing to help the people that help the sport

KJ your Starfire is on its way to AZ w/Jeff L., he gave $20, so you owe him...if you sent a check, we can put it towards the tee your gonna sponsor...(you only owe $80 more!) thanks for the support BN

were up to $3000 added
thanks for the support!

Our newest tee sponsors:

New Jersey Disc Devils
Frizzacks, Cranbury Park, CT.
INNOVA CE Fundraising plastic

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club, www.Madisc.org (http://www.Madisc.org)
Newman family
Sonderfans &amp; Aaron
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles, Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc., www.Nefa.com (http://www.Nefa.com)
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen
Disc Golf Association
Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting
"TJ" Barber-Colonial Supplemental Ins.
Borderlands Disc Golf
New Jersey Disc Devils
Frizzacks, Cranbury Park, CT.


add Bobby Einrienhofer to the prereged in open pro

[keithjohnson]

thanks bill....i will send a check for sponsorship after i get the one from uncle sam...
thanks againand i hope that i have some people that still wish to toss some discs around after the event when i come back up that way from the old dominion in virginia..keith

NYS Prereg:

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas

OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
T.J. Barber

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen

ADV MASTERS
Morgan Wright

$3000 added to the pro purse!

Candy fundraising Starfires, CFR TL Teebirds, CFR Archangels, CFR Glow Eagles and Banshees, and CFR Rhynos are on the way,,,,,these awesome discs come with a mini J-bird NYStates stamp, get em for $20, all proceeds go directly into the ADDED cash at the NY States, get in touch if youre interested

OK last post, tonight, I promise

CTP event will be for an awesome red DGA MACH 5

updated flyer can be found at Both:

www.nefa.com (http://www.nefa.com) and www.madisc.org (http://www.madisc.org)

[morgan]

I challenge Ken Climo, Cam Todd, Steve Rico, Ron Russell, Sugar Shack, Kevin MRV, Stokeley, Avery, etc to come and try and beat the Warwick locals. No way. I'll give an extra $200 to the men's open winner who travels if you beat the locals. Women too, Juliana and Des, bring it on.

Offer not open to local MADC/NEFA members or their families because they already kick buttt and will win.

yeah Morg....way to spend that cash...bring some in october, you may have to pay up!

Candy fundraising Starfires, CFR TL Teebirds, CFR Archangels, CFR Glow Eagles and Banshees, and CFR Rhynos are in,,,,,these awesome discs come with a mini J-bird NYStates stamp, get em for $20, all proceeds go directly into the ADDED cash at the NY States, get in touch if youre interested

NYS Prereg:

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas

OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
T.J. Barber
Fred McKinely

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen

ADV MASTERS
Morgan Wright

$3100 added and pre reg update

thanks to LARRY ENTZ and further disc sales were up to $3100 added...........---------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------
NYS Prereg:

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas

OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
Fred McKinely

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen

ADV MASTERS
Morgan Wright
Larry Entz

2 concrete pads were poured on thursday on the following 6 holes: 7, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. they are ready to be used. it'll take some time to remove piles of dirt and groom the areas around the pads but they are playable. thanks to jeff mahler and bryan yondolino for a grueling day, with assistance from eddie nathan, bob graham, alex bollen, and timmy premus. we anticipate putting in the next 12 within a week or two. all 36 animal pads should be done by ny states.

were at $3200 added thanks to further sales of CE Fund raising plastic...TLs, Starfires etc

here is a pre reg update as well...---------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------
NYS Prereg:

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas

OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
Fred McKinley
Dave Coats

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen

ADV MASTERS
Morgan Wright
Larry Entz

we've now got $3400 added, thanks to our newest sponsor..Black Bear campground...if you need a place to stay go to

http://www.blackbearcampground.com

and tell em the NY states Disc golf event @ warwick sent you. They are about 2 miles down the road and provide great tent sites as well as assorted cabins..thanks BN

NYS Prereg: UPDATED

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas
Jim Santoro

OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
Fred McKinley
Dave Coats

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen

ADV MASTERS
Morgan Wright
Larry Entz

Hey Morgan,
why do you play Adv. Masters when, according to the PDGA site, you are registered as a M PRO?

Just wondering....how come you move down? /clipart/lame.gif

if MW is registered as a pro master, he's gonnna play pro masters at NY states...

[jconnell]

Well, he is....
17334 M Pro Morgan Wright NY USA

Sad part is, he truly should be an Intermediate Master. Oh well.

He's not really moving down by being registered in Adv, it just appears that way because he sent the PDGA too much money.

--Josh

[morgan]

I play one tournament per year. Never play as a pro. Can't see how anybody could be a professional if they play one tourney per year. Kind of hard to make a living that way.

Let's see:

2000 NY States adv masters DNF
2001 NY States adv masters finished 4th out of 13
2002 NY states adv masters finished DFL out of 5

Sounds like it's time to move up to pro, huh?

So what possessed you to sign up as a pro? How to reverse your status?

http://www.pdga.com/player_class.php

Turning Pro

A player relinquishes Amateur status by registering in a Professional division with the PDGA


Reclassification

A player may change classification to a higher division upon request to the PDGA Office. A player may request reclassification to a lower division by petitioning the PDGA Competition Director. If a lower reclassification is granted, the player may not compete in the lower division for 60 days. Players who have accepted cash as a Professional have the opportunity to be reclassified as Amateur, however they will be ineligible to compete in the PDGA Amateur World Championships.


This is an A-tier event, isn't it?

[morgan]

I don't know why I changed to pro with the PDGA, maybe I planned to play more this year. But this course I'm building is taking up all my time and energy so I have no time to play.

Either way, it's none of your [*****] business, "noaceyet." But if BN says I have to play pro then I'll play pro, that means I have to quit bulding this course so I can start throwing a lot more.

Oh well, Hyzer Creek has 11 holes now and that's that. Thanks a lot "noaceyet." Now I have to play and stop working on the course.

Morgan, come out of the closet and admit you were baggin those years/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Noy can eat a wanker. Stay where youre at and be happy.

What harsh words from somebody who's trying to bend the rules...At least I did not refer to any profanities.
I believe during check-in the TD should check everyones PDGA card anyway.
Additionally, I don't know what is the big deal? Play in the division you are registered in, or change the division, you still get a rating based on your play regardless of the division.

[morgan]

I don't know who you are, but you are annoying me, why don't you put an apple on your teachers desk and go tattle on somebody, beotch.

I play adv masters because I like playing with those guys. Advanced players are cool and like to have fun, joke around, don't worry about winning. Pro players are too serious, all they care about is winning so they are always telling you not to talk, if you step on a twig and snap it they get all anal and say stop making so much noise, and they never joke and they are no fun to play with.

[Moderator005]

You tried to play in a division below the one you are registered. It's a perfectly valid observation by noaceyet and you were caught. Your player ratings suggest you should play Intermediate Masters, not even Advanced Masters. Yet you are the douchebag who chose to register with the PDGA as a Pro Master, and now you are stuck there for life, unless you petition to reverse your status.

[discette]

Petitioning is easy enough to do. You guys make it sound like Morgan is SOL. It seems obvious, if he has never cashed (or even played as a pro) and his ratings suggest a lower division, he won't have a problem changing to Intermediate or Advanced Master. Of course, there is the 60 day waiting period.

Call the office, Morgan.

Morgan, consider this:

What if....you were caught during the tournament?
Rule 804.05 (3) would be in effect!

Morgan, if you want to play as an amateur, change your status. That's it. That's all you have to do. No harm, no foul.

"Pro players are too serious, all they care about is winning so they are always telling you not to talk, if you step on a twig and snap it they get all anal and say stop making so much noise, and they never joke and they are no fun to play with."

But Morgan, you are a pro player...../msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Jeff,
good shootin' @ the Worlds - congratulations!
Oh, I forgot - I meant to say that in German.

Gute Arbeit Herr LaGrassa, Sie haben auf der Weltmeisterschaft sehr gut geworfen. Ist der oben genannte Spieler ein Arschgesicht?

Bill,
I have to come an play Warwick again. Keep the ice-bowl on a Sunday, and I'll make it up in 2004.

[morgan]

Sorry to mess up your thread Bill. No problem with me playing pro masters, I already paid the difference in registration fee, now all I have to do is play one tourney every weekend between now and October and I'll have the skills to kick pro buttt. Tomorrow I head to Rochester for the Rochester Flying Disc Open.

Forget about Jeff Lasagna, he plays tourneys 52 weekends a year and all 6 days in between, as he's done for 7 years, he lives where there are 43 courses within 5 miles of his house, and he still can't out-throw a middle aged washed-up frisbee lid thrower from the 1970's who only plays one tourney a year and has one bad foot and a bad back and lives where the nearest course is 160 miles away.

Good shooting in worlds by the way. Congrats! You beat Climo in one or two rounds!

[Moderator005]

Vielen Dank sehr viel, mein guter Freund Robert. Ja, der oben genannte Spieler ist ein Arschgeischt, und ein blöder Wichse! /clipart/smile.gif

-Jeff

Wie Gehts!! Who do I make the check to, and where do I send the entry and how much?

Morgan does that xtra $200 count toward anyone travelling to the tournament?

[morgan]

Yeah, if they win.

[morgan]

check the "archive July 27" thread for the flyer.

I'll be in Delaware for the 2 sanctioned events this weekend...I just loaded up some starfires in my van, see me down there if youre interested.... ALL the proceeds are going towards the added moolah

Bill, I printed the flyer and your address and email did not print legibly, the print is to small. Could you please post the address of where to send my entry to.
Thanks.

all $ goes to

William Newman
30 Laurelton Rd.
Mt.Kisco NY 10549

914 666 6593 eves or leave a message

we are adding $3500 cash, so far. welcome to our latest sponsors...Delaware Disc Golfers... I'd like to get to $4000 and call it quits.........thanks everybody for the support. ...add some fundraising plastic to your bag and join our list of sponsors! BN

----------------------------
NY States Tee Sponsors
------------------------------
Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club, www.Madisc.org (http://www.Madisc.org)
Newman Family
Sonderfans &amp; Aaron
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles, Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc., www.Nefa.com (http://www.Nefa.com)
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen
Disc Golf Association
Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting
"TJ" Barber-Colonial Supplemental Ins.
Borderlands Disc Golf
New Jersey Disc Devils
Frizzacks, Cranbury Park, CT.
Larry Entz
Delaware Disc Golfers
http://www.blackbearcampground.com/

[morgan]

Bill I'm sending you two blank checks for $200 each that you can give to the M and F winners if they travel. After all you are the TD, it's not my place.

Hey Morgan,
I hope you did well @ the Rochester Flying Disc Open. I am sorry that you had to enter that competition because of me.

Maybe I can make it up to you. Come down to the Jersey Jam next year - it's all ratings-based, and since I have a lousy 860, while you have a 854, we should have a close competition. Plus, we could use some of your mooola.

[morgan]

thanks

thanks Morgan, what divisions are we talking about? and what will our definition of "travel" be?

Mahler and Pimpy are going ahead with more concrete tee pads in the next few weeks ...anybody out there who can help, get in touch with one of them or here or with DD

NYS Prereg: UPDATED

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas
Jim Santoro

OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer
Mike Dussault

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
Fred McKinley
Dave Coats
Morgan Wright

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen

ADV MASTERS
Larry Entz

[morgan]

Bill, added cash is for anybody who travels from outside the NEFA and MADC region and wins Men's Open and/or Women's Open, not open to anybody who lives in NE or the mid atlantic states from NY to NC.

You are a lawyer so I'll list them in legalese for the bench. NE, NY, NJ, MD, DE, PA, VA, WV, NC.

People who travel, come win in men's open or women's open and claim your added cash. If locals win, I keep the cash.

BRING IT ON!

[Moderator005]

Why couldn't a golfer from Nebraska (NE) win the money? Perhaps you meant NE as in New England: ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, and CT.

And what about someone who lives down the street from the White House? Can someone whose mailing address is District of Columbia, D.C., win the money?

-Jeff

God has spoken. You drive 12 hours from NC, win the Open, and Morgan keeps the cash - BS!

Add it or keep it!

NE ME - it's only a keystroke difference, like duck and dick

[morgan]

That's funny Jeff about NE. But New England was there first, Nebraska has to find some other letters.

Noaceyet, check it out, NC is no farther than Caribou Maine is from Warwick. You jump in the car and drive it. That's not travelling. California is travelling. Texas is travelling. NC is just one tank of gas.

OK, fair enough, why don't you take it a step further, and say that,
"if the winner had to fly in to get to the tournament, and if he wins, he can have the $200 towards his travel expenses", which I guess it is meant for.

Therefore, give it to the winner if he had to "fly in". Maybe someone decides to fly from NC to Newark...

And if nobody wins it, maybe the money can be used to buy a practice basket for the DFL in Pro Masters.

[morgan]

I would like to request, noaceyet, that you only post things that will promote the sport, promote the tournie, and give a good image to NY States and Warwick. This is not the place for goofing around. Use the "How do I throw my MRV" topic for that.

How come that whenever someone post an opinion that disagrees with Morgans he gets all ticked off? It's your money, do whatever you want to do with it, burn it - I don't care.
This is a discussion board for the NY States, and I disagree with you on your definition of "travel". TX may be a nice priceline ticket and a 2 hour drive from Newark. NC maybe 9 hours driving home after a crueling two day tournament.

But if Morgan says that my posts will not promote a good image than I shall stop posting here until next year, because I feel ashamed.

Btw, don't forget to call the PDGA if you want to play Am next year, because I'll be watching you... (cheater)

Robert, what crawled up your sphincter and died? Morgan is doing something out of his own pocket to try and help promote the best tournament at the best course in the entire Mid Atlantic/New England area. If he wants to give $200 to the golfer with the biggest cans that's his call. It's his money! You live in NJ and have no shot at winning so what does it matter to you (or Jeff for that matter)?

Naaah, I am just messing with his head, because he ****** me off, getting all nasty when I caught him trying to cheat. I am not mad at all, just having a little bit of fun arguing with Morgan, but now I don't know if he can handle it...

I'm travelling from Ohio, soooooo....you're telling me I've got a chance......

[morgan]

Affirmative.

Hey some of you Ohio boys are pretty good. I just did a round with Gordon Holton from Ohio. He rules. He can hit a dime with a frisbee at 150 paces. I think he won the Rochester Flying Disc Open the other day (at least he was winning by 1 stroke over Doug Corea when I left before the final 9). He's a nice guy too.

Rob, a guy with an 860 rating who has never cashed in any Pro or Pro Masters tournament registering in Advanced Masters is not cheating. Until it was brought up here I did not even know that you couldn't register in Advanced if you had 'declared yourself' Pro when you got your PDGA membership. I was under the impression that you couldn't play Am only if you had previously cashed, and I will guess that Morgan thought the same.

So how many tee signs are YOU sponsoring for the tournament?

NONE.

Some people have money to give, others people help out with some sweat when and where they can. Some people are single, others are married with children - as you know. Some people can spend hundreds of $$$ on sponsorships, others pay hundreds of $$$ in medical bills for their children every month. And if you want any detail on that - please e-mail me.

[morgan]

Rob, this thread is not about you. Don't bogart it.

Don't keep addressing me

thanks Morgan, I received the travelers bonus checks today.....anybody outside of NEFA and MadC...who wins pro men or pro women will collect a $200 bonus!

Any touring guys showing any interest yet, besides Brinster, Cheeseburger and McRee?

[bschweberger]

Billy too Fondersan...
Schweb

NYS Prereg: UPDATED


OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer
Mike Dussault

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
Fred McKinley
Dave Coats
Morgan Wright

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas
Jim Santoro


ADV MASTERS
Larry Entz

ADV WOMEN
Carla Engelbrecht

[Moderator005]

While Morgan's offer is admirable, it's a shame that big shots from NC like Brian Schweberger, Brian McRee, Larry Leonard, etc. are exempt from winning his money. North Carolina isn't part of the MADC, is well over 500 miles from Warwick, and by definition, isn't a Mid-Atlantic state:

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/mid-Atlantic

were up to $3600 added with the addition of Leslie Demark &amp; Steve Brinster to our list of sponsors

[morgan]

Bill you have to stop now. 36 pin sponsorships, 36 pins. Any more and Dan will have to add more pins.

I'm surprised Jeff LaG took this long to dis me, usually I get "same day service" from the dude in dissin

[Moderator005]

Not a dis, just wish that Sportsman of the Year Schweberger had a deserving shot at your money.

"NC is no farther than Caribou Maine is from Warwick. You jump in the car and drive it. That's not travelling. California is travelling. Texas is travelling. NC is just one tank of gas".

Somebody must be driving one of them new hybrids. 500 miles on one tank of gas? Not with my car!

[bschweberger]

NC to Warwick is more like 600 or more.

[morgan]

Hey measure from the northern tip of Maine to Warwick with a ruler. Now go the same amount from Warwick to the south, you hit the southern part of NC almost to SC.

Wilmington - Warwick 654.36
Houlton - Warwick 575.53 (and Bangor - Warwick is only 457.49)

I'd vote for "outside of NEFA and MADC states", or say from 400 miles or further, thats travelling! what do ya say Morgan? PS nobody is coming from Caribou Maine....

Jeff and Robert, if you are so concerned, then why don't you put up a couple hundred of your own?
Until then, just shut up about something that doesn't concern you!

[neonnoodle]

Bill, Do you want me to be PDGA Thumb Breaker or Stats Man at the States? I just created a cool javascript based program to display results, including round by round Played At Ratings that can be played on a TV or Computer Monitor. Do you have electricity at the course? Do you have interest in this?

[Moderator005]

Dan,

Just because I'm not forking over $100 like you to line the pockets of the touring Pros doesn't mean I can't offer my $.02, especially considering that I am Newman's assistant tournament director for the event.

I see we disagree on more than one thing about NY States, Jeff.

I am (co)forking over $100 (split with Jim Santoro) in support of a great event with the hopes that it will lead to future great events at the best course on the East Coast. Since I usually don't have the available time to help out with things like work days at a course that is over an hour away from me I figured it was at least something I could do to help out Dan and Bill. Jim and I will also be donating our time to Bill as much as possible on the days of the tournament and trying to help out in whatever ways he needs us (although not in the capacity of 'assistant tournament director').

The way you said 'forking over $100...to line the pockets of the touring Pros' comes across as if you have some disdain for the whole 'added cash' concept. If that's really the case, then why do you care so vehemently about Morgan's generous donation? Many of the tournaments I've been to have had some form of 'protected' prize - there's the great place (I can't remember the name, but I think it's in Warwick or Florida) that gives gift certificates to the last place finishers; last year I was able to get an artist friend of mine to donate a watercolor print to the highest finishing NY resident, things like that. This is just another one of those 'protected' sponsor gifts, but unfortunately it comes from someone that you have a hardon for, and you are making a bigger deal out of it than is really necessary.

Good call Bill.

Dan, in an earlier post Morgan said that he wants to give the money to "anybody who travels from outside the NEFA and MADC region and wins Men's Open and/or Women's Open" (8/26). Now North Carolina would qualify, wouldn't it, it's not a part of the MADC.

So, why not include it? Yeah, we understand it's Morgan's decision. But, and please answer this one, don't you think that it would improve the tournament if guys like Brian Schweberger could get a chance to get some of that added cash? Maybe the $200,- would get another one or two guys up from NC? If you disagree with us on the NC issue, do you disagree with Bill's idea posted earlier as well?


Jeff, thanks for coming out last weekend to play Bunker Hill. I hope I get a course review. I hope to be able to expand it to 12 holes next year, with the building gone, and permission to use more land on the other side of the runway holes. It was good to see all this interest from non-players. /clipart/smile.gif

[neonnoodle]

Not to break this love fest up or anything, but what the f are you guys fighting about?!?

Shaddap and do what ya like? You all like the event, you all want to help it be a better event, so what is there to argue about?

Kiss and make up. Bad blood is for kids not adults.

[Moderator005]

Dan,

You're right that I have a fundamental issue with added cash at tournaments. Think of what all that money could do for the sport if it were, for example, used to buy discs and temporary baskets for the local high school. Instead, it lines the pockets of touring Pros, what good does that do, if any? But this is an argument for another time, another place - not on this thread, please.

Once again, I honestly applaud Morgan's sincere gesture to donate his own money in an effort to bring out-of-towners in for this event and to enjoy the wonderful Warwick course. But if anyone should benefit, I'd much rather see Sportsman of the Year and ambassador of our sport Brian Schweberger get a deserving shot at the money and not just, for instance, "The Angry Clown" or <FONT SIZE=" 2">"The Whining Okie."</FONT>

My $.02 -Jeff

Hey noaceyet, Houlton is just the end of the 95. Morgan said the northern tip of Maine, so you should measure from Fort Kent or Madawaska. I think those places are farther away from Warwick than Wilmington is.
I think Morgan's money is safe because anyone outside of the northeast will be traveling to the socal championships instead.

[neonnoodle]

"I think Morgan's money is safe because anyone outside of the northeast will be traveling to the socal championships instead."

Sure, and I have some realestate I'd like to sell you in the Florida Everglades too.

Just for socalgolfer...

Franklin (Macon), NC - Warwick...789.09
Madawaska, ME - Warwick...651.95
Fort Kent, ME - Warwick...670.80

[morgan]

I'm laughing my buttt off here, this whole big argument over $200. I just want some of the people out west to come east and see if they can stack up against the east coast regulars. Let me explain, I'm trying (even though $200 is not enough to do it cause it still doesn't pay the travel bill) to get the west and midwest big shots to come out here. Do we have any other people who want to add to the travel bonus prize for travellers from the west? I want to see the Juliana's and Barry's and Kevin MRV's out here. How much will it take?

Everybody knows Schweberger is going to take top prize this year like he did last year, unless we can get all the Steve Rico's and Barry Schultz's and stuff to come east, and they live so far away that I thought they needed incentive to come east. Last I knew, NC was already east. But okay, if NC is too far then we'll open it up to NC people and Caribou Maine people. (And there is a DG scene in Caribou and the Enman clan rules it).

Schweberger owns Warwick. His 56 in B-B was 6 strokes under the course record and 11 strokes under world class par, I was told (is it true?) which means he shot a round rated at 1100!! They say it was one of the best rounds in the history of disc golf. We need somebody to break that mark. Ken Climo, come on down (up).

I want the big shots from the west to come out. I think east coast people are all pretty close. The east coast is all easy drivin'. I drove from key west to NYC in 18 hours once.

[morgan]

We can have people donate cash to the special "travel bonus pool" like an ace pool or something. Who wants to put it up? Send money to Bill. If the pool get over $1000 then people from far away might show up. Maybe from Sweden!!

Since we all agree now it's for anybody from outside NEFA / MADC, people can start adding cash. Send it to Bill Newman.

Key West - New York...1450 miles
56 round last year...rating 1049...

[neonnoodle]

MADC Member States: DE, MD, NJ, NY, PA.

VA, NC, OH are not MADC or NEFA. Morgan, why don't you make a hit list of players you would pay the $200 to if they won? Players you want to see give Brian a run for his money? Your geography skills are just confusing this...

Your offer would make a little more sense if it went to the top finisher on your list or the top finisher from outside the MADC/NEFA Member States area, and not to them only if they win the whole thing. You'd probably get more takers (if that's your intention?).

There are still plenty of people in the area that could very well win the States, Brinster, Dussault, Timmy Walsh, Klosky. I've shot a 59 on the longs and had 5, count em 5, really stupid mistakes. I don't make those and i shoot 54. Anyone out here can have a great weekend and win this thing. Everyone just assumes that Schway is going to come and just walk away with it. Good odds sure but don't count your chickens, or ever count Brinster out of a warwick tourny.
Now everyone, quit your bickering, you sound like a bunch of whiny kids. THAT wont promote Warwick at all.

[neonnoodle]

Yeah! You're just lucky I'm volunteering or I might up and shoot a 49 on B-B. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Just thinking...would there be a better chance to get "the big shots from the west" if we had two or three big money events back to back? E.g. schedule the Yetter and the NY States back to back.

[morgan]

Nick, your suggestions are politely declined. The travel pool is a pool, not added cash, and if nobody wins it nobody wins it. The top finisher has to be from outside the original list of states minus NC to get the pool cash. VA and WV are not eligible. Give me a break. VA? Why should I pay money to give somebody from VA incentive to come when they only live 250 miles away? Parts of NY are farther than that! I'd rather give incentive for people from Buffalo, they are farther than VA but they are IN THE SAME STATE!!

For Criminy sake, I live farther from Warwick than some VA people do!!! (almost)

The list of local states:

NY, PA, DE, MD, WV, VA, NJ, 6 NE states

Noaceyet

heres how it works out:

weve got the Patapsco picnic, then the Yetter, 2 weeks off to play some smaller local events and then NY States, the Old Dominion (sp?) showdown and then the USDGC all in a row....what else would a pack of touring pros want...

WARWICK CONCRETE TEE PADS UPDATE-WORKERS NEEDED

BE PART OF SOMETHING BIG! HELP CREATE CONCRETE TEES AT WARWICK! Warwick concrete pour this SATURDAY, prep work will be going on thurs and fri and saturday at about 8:30am the concrete truck will come by to pour 12 more tees on the Animal course. Workers needed ! Dress like a consruction worker, bring some work gloves and a shovel and a rake if you can.
call crew chief Jeff Mahler to let him know you’ll be there on sat morning. 973 879 5997
After sat’s pour 2/3 of the Animal tees will be done. Hope to see a lot of folks out there on SAT

[keithjohnson]

By Mitch Sonderfan on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:12 pm:
Everyone just assumes that Schway is going to come and just walk away with it.

just like they thought he would sweep the skins last xmas.....
he's just lucky that i won't be there until after the event as due to wife's work schedule we can't go east until following week so i am playing old dominion which once brian found out about when i spoke to him at worlds he said"i'm way too scared to go up against you..i won't be playing old dominion..i'm just going to go to the usdgc early since i KNOW you can't be there!"

after he said that i bent his thumb back making him miss the rest of worlds which he claimed in public happened driving down the mountain the next day because he was embarrassed
/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Paypal is now available to prereg or sponsor the NY States.....

billnewman@optonline.net is my e-mail

...please add $3 to your payment if you use paypal....many thanks BN

[morgan]

Yeah you can use paypal to add $ to the travel bonus pool. Hint hint.

Hey Keith that was pretty funny. Din't you get most of those skins? (thanks to me!!?)

Everyone knows the real story about that skins round was the incredible play of the Dan/Keith team in doubles afterward. If not for a few (ok, maybe 16) missed putts by me, we would have cashed.

I just hope Brian doesn't blame the poor luck he had this year on tour on his doubles partner from that day (btw, Brian, it's spelled S-A-N-T-O-R-O). /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[drivethruliquor]

My money's on Brinster. Only 'cause I can't make it though /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
Is Joey playin' Masters?
I'll take him too if he is!

[warwickdan]

the concrete pour scheduled for this saturday has been postponed due to the parks department not being able to dig out the pad areas because of the lousy weather. they plan on digging out the remaining 24 pads on monday and tuesday, and we are tentatively planning on pouring next friday, sept. 12th. we will post again when we know the actual day, as volunteers are needed. thanks...

[tatersak]

If anyone happens to find a first run red tl with black stamp and tatertot or 21692 on the back with black magic drawings on hole 3 contact me. i would welcome it back into the bag. lost on july 21 playing b-b. wow what a course!!!!!

[keithjohnson]

yes morgan...thank you very much....i will be playing there during the week after old dominion...i will try to get the exact day posted later so that if anyone wants to join me again(can't wait to play there with green trees and concrete tees) i will be happy to take their money again.....even if morgan doesn't help me this time /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif.....keith

i hope at least morgan,dan h.,mitch and a couple of other locals can play

Thanks Keith, maybe next year i'll be able to take you up on that offer of if i beat you at the memorial course (prior to the event), you'll pay may way. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
Shame you're not coming here, you're fun. Good luck down there and if i don't see ya before, see ya at the USDGC.

NYS Prereg: UPDATED -

Paypal is available for prereg


OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer
Mike Dussault
Ronnie Turner
Steve Brinster

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
Fred McKinley
Dave Coats
Morgan Wright
Terry West

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen
Leslie Demark

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas
Jim Santoro
Alex Bollen
Dave Prue


ADV MASTERS
Larry Entz

ADV WOMEN
Carla Engelbrecht

[keithjohnson]

mitch...i wish i was able to play usdgc,but harold wouldn't take me up on my 2 year worlds td exemption idea....so i am not eliglible to play without a sponsors exemption /msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif....

are you playing old dominion on your way to usdgc...i'll be playing it and then warwick probably the tuesday or wednesday after(15th,16th of oct.) if not i'll have to see you on the road somewhere.....keep up the good playing....i should have sponsored you for paw paw it looks like /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif.....keith

Keith, let me know when you are coming (if the 15th/16th changes) and I will play hooky to be there. I'll even bring the donuts this time.

[keithjohnson]

thanks dan....look forward to it...i'm leaving jersey thursday...and after playing sat and sunday i need to at least spend 1 day with in-laws before golf again /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
so i should have said 14/15th...probably be 15th...hope to see you all from the area there again.....keith

added $ will be over $4000...thanks to DiscNDat, Franks Pizza in warwick, NY, Aerobie, Fly by Nite Discs and others adding their support today...thanks everybody....

also add Mitch Sonderfan Pro and Dan Howard Advanced to the prereged

NYS Prereg: UPDATED -

Paypal is available for prereg


OPEN PRO
Craig Cutler
Bobby Einrienhofer
Mike Dussault
Ronnie Turner
Steve Brinster
Mitch Sonderfan

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkema
Bill Newman
Fred McKinley
Dave Coats
Morgan Wright
Terry West

PRO WOMEN
Jen Jensen
Leslie Demark

ADVANCED
Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Papas
Jim Santoro
Alex Bollen
Dan Howard

ADV MASTERS
Larry Entz
Dave Prue

ADV WOMEN
Carla Engelbrecht

Pre-reg update---I'll be at the Yetter @ Tyler and Tinicum to do pre regs. I'm gonna accept no more then 36 Non Pros into the event, so If you want to play as a non pro, get yer $ in....BN

PRO MEN
Bobby Einreinhofer 20726
Craig Cutler 20671
Mike Dussault
Bob Graham 6341
Mitch Sonderfan 17998
Steve Brinster
Chris Downey 17095
Ron Turner 9030
Nick Kight

PRO MASTERS
Dan Doyle 310
Jimi McIlvain 13003
Dave Balkeema
Bill Newman 1603
Fred McKinley 21153
Dave Coats
Morgan Wright 17334
Terry West 11677
Kraig Steffen 5404


PRO WOMEN

Jen Jensen
Lesli Demark
Alicia Relano 7921


ADVANCED

Steve Ditter 19796
Nick Newman 13408
Matt Pappas
Jim Santoro 20138
Alex Bollen 19493
Dan Howard 19105
Adam McGahey 17338
Brian Yondolino


ADV MSTR

Larry Entz 14785
Dave Prue 9360



ADV WMN
Anne Yondolino
Carla Engelbrecht 18915
Jeannie Helseth

Were adding $4000 to the pro payout. We also likely will add some extra merchandise to the non-pro payouts.

Support and thanks our sponsors, they support DISC GOLF.

----------------------------
NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club, www.Madisc.org (http://www.Madisc.org)
Newman Family
Mitch and Derek Sonderfan &amp; Aaron Bell
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles, Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc., www.Nefa.com (http://www.Nefa.com)
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen
Disc Golf Association
Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting
"TJ" Barber-Colonial Supplemental Ins.
Borderlands Disc Golf
New Jersey Disc Devils
Frizzacks, Cranbury Park, CT.
Larry Entz
Delaware Disc Golfers
http://www.blackbearcampground.com/
Brinster/Demark
Franks Pizza, Warwick,NY
DiscNDat
Aerobie

[neonnoodle]

970 Under Open Side Bet will be offered. $10 entry, payout top 33%. See me before the start of the second round.

I'd like to extend another challenge to 970 and under Open Players: If you cash (normal tourney payout) I'll add another $10 to the 970 Under Open Side Bet. My way of acknowledging that players HUGE acheivement. Any other player interested in honoring such an achievement (970 and Under or not) let me know and I'll include your donation in any amount to that payout.(Hint, you'll need to play 4 rounds in a row at more than 3 strokes better than your average to cash. Last place cash at the Patapsco Picnic had a 995 event player rating.)

[girlie]

Alright Bill, I've trashed all other obligations and I'm coming to NY States! My check is in the mail /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Lindsay

Thats right you are!

Sounds good....we are up to 7 women....see you in 3 and 1/2 weeks

for all the folks telling me they are having trouble with the flyers listed on the Nefa and Madc boards...here is my info, send all checks to:

William Newman
30 Laurelton Rd.
Mt.kisco NY 10549

dont forget to add $5 for the ctp event...were going to be giving away a portable MACH 5 from the DGA, with a real nice red finish as well as nice prizes for 2nd and 3rd...well have shorter tees for the women and advanced players

Were adding $4000 to the pro payout. We also likely will add extra merchandise to the non-pro payouts. Also we have an extra bonus $200 for anybody who wins pro men or women and lives outside of the MADC or NEFA states. This is courtesy of MORGAN WRIGHT/HYZERCREEK...thanks Morgan.

Support and thank our sponsors, they support DISC GOLF.

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club, www.Madisc.org (http://www.Madisc.org)
Newman Family
Mitch and Derek Sonderfan &amp; Aaron Bell
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles, Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc., www.Nefa.com (http://www.Nefa.com)
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen
Disc Golf Association
Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting
"TJ" Barber-Colonial Supplemental Ins.
Borderlands Disc Golf
New Jersey Disc Devils
Frizzacks, Cranbury Park, CT.
Larry Entz
Delaware Disc Golfers
http://www.blackbearcampground.com/
Steve Brinster &amp; Lesli Demark
Franks Pizza, Warwick,NY
DiscNDat
Aerobie

NYS Prereg update

note, at 30 non pros, pre reg will close for non pro. We'll hold 70 total spots for pros. We should have more spots for non-pro as the event gets closer. I'll keep ya posted...BN

PRO MEN (18)

Bobby Einreinhofer
Craig Cutler
Mike Dussault
Bob Graham
Mitch Sonderfan
Steve Brinster
Chris Downey
Ron Turner
Nick Kight
Scott Howard
Shawn Breske
Joe Klosky
Brian Schweberger
Mike Milne
Devin Frederick
Ted Phillips
Bard Soleng
Jeff Cahill


PRO MASTERS (11)

Dan Doyle
Jimi McIlvain
Dave Balkeema
Bill Newman
Fred McKinley
Dave Coats
Morgan Wright
Terry West
Kraig Steffen
Ray Rogers
Dave Jones


PRO WOMEN (3)

Jen Jensen
Lesli Demark
Alicia Relano


ADVANCED (15)

Steve Ditter
Nick Newman
Matt Pappas
Jim Santoro
Alex Bollen
Dan Howard
Adam McGahey
Brian Yondolino
Jamo Adams
Brad Bollen
Senator Hoffman
Gary Crowley
Matt Buono
Bobby Cowperthwait
Jon Flores

ADV MSTR (3)

Larry Entz
Dave Prue
Brian Frederick


ADV WMN (4)

Anne Yondolino
Carla Engelbrecht
Jeannie Helseth
Lindsay Merce

NYS SPONSORS

There will be a bonus $200 payout to the winner of mens and/or womens open if they reside outside of NEFA and MADC territory...all thanks to Morgan Wright/Hyzer creek...

Support and thank our sponsors, they support DISC GOLF.

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NY States Tee Sponsors
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Jason Southwick/Pryamids
Morgan Wright/Hyzer Creek
Innova
Discraft
Revolution Bags
Mid Atlantic Disc Club, www.Madisc.org (http://www.Madisc.org)
Newman Family
Mitch and Derek Sonderfan &amp; Aaron Bell
Jim Santoro/ Dan Howard
FDR Park, N.Y. Doubles 11-2-03 PDGA XC
Cutler Financial services, LLC
World Doubles, Circle R2 DG Ranch-San Saba,Tx.
Dave Jones and Family
Little Flyers- www.Little Flyers.com
New England Flying Disc Assoc., www.Nefa.com (http://www.Nefa.com)
FDR Park ICE BOWL 2004
Joe "Lick Me" Proud
Terry West
J-Bird Discs
Dave Balkeema/Jennifer Jensen
Disc Golf Association
Brian Yondolino-Highview contracting
"TJ" Barber-Colonial Supplemental Ins.
Borderlands Disc Golf
New Jersey Disc Devils
www.FRIZZAK.com (http://www.FRIZZAK.com)
Larry Entz
Delaware Disc Golfers
Franks Pizza, Warwick,NY
DiscNDat
Aerobie
Country Roads Deli,Hewitt, NJ
Ronnie Turner

add Brian Gawler and Rachel Mansir to the open divisions and Mike Lowenbourg to adv....

The current pre-registration list can be viewed at:
NY States 2003 SuperTour Event (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=18&amp;is_official=0)

[neonnoodle]

970 &amp; Under Open Pool Side Bet will be in effect. $10 entry, pay out top 33%. I suggest that we agree to shoot another $5 each to any one of us that can manage to get regular cash.

Note: Thus far no Open player with a rating below 979 has cashed at a MADC A Series event this year...

[neonnoodle]

Bill,

Can you send me a word file or pdf file of your flyer? I just printed out the one posted at MADGIC TIMES and it's pretty fuzzy.

I know that there are a bunch more players planning on coming from Delaware too. Kady, Winchester, Sweetman, etc. I hope they register in time...

thanks go out to our newest sponsor...AEROBIE...they just sent me a box of their new golf discs...

PS 2/3 of the tees are done in concrete on the Animal course........

and one more

FLY BY NITE DISCS

FLYBYNITEDISCS.COM

THANKS FOR PUMPING UP THE PAYOUT!

SASSY PANTS...yup thats are newest sponsor...a nice ctp or two, for the ladies, of course.........go check out www.SASSYPANTSGEAR.com (http://www.SASSYPANTSGEAR.com)

added cash is at $4000 and we'll be able to add merch as well to the non pro payout

We at Lightning Golf Disc will offer to the tournament director 1 DB-5 Lightning Basket for the Winner, please see www.lightningdiscgolfdirect.com (http://www.lightningdiscgolfdirect.com) for further info on The Free Lightning Disc Basket DB-5 for every PDGA Major Event.

Ya that was the Last Sorry Were Late,,

new pre reg:

Pro
Jamie Habitzreuther 12559

pro master
Hank Foss 7126

Pro Grand master
Edward Elsky 14333

AM 1
Bryon LaChance 13747

workday today (sunday) and next sunday @ Warwick---
concrete tee pads to be completed, fly pads on Wolfe holes, Wolfe woods front nine to be prepaired for states, lots of fun and work to be done, if your local and want to help out, c'mon out....wear work clothes and bring a shovel, a rake and a weed wacker if youve got one...

hey Jerry and lightning folks, another basket to give away/add to the payout sounds great! Thanks for the support!

feel free to ship to

Bill Newman
30 Laurelton Rd.
Mt.Kisco NY 10549

Bill, please send your details via e-mail, or you may call our number This Sunday after church, were not going to Play today, and will be glad to talk to You in between NASCAR and the MONSTER MILE in DOVER, I love that track. Best Flight, Jerry. see our contact us page at www.lightningdiscgolfdirect.com (http://www.lightningdiscgolfdirect.com)

up to date pre reg confirmation can be found at:

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=18&amp;is_official=0

looks lightning disc will be adding a nice basket to the payout and Mr and Mrs. Haas will be adding a ching mini portable...final workday next sunday @ Warwick...fun fun fun...

[ronturner]

bill- i noticed my name was still on the list. just a reminder--i can't make it, but i'm donating my entry fee to the tourney.

got it RT, glo eagle in the mail soon...thanks BN

[bschweberger]

Bill, check is in the mail for Brian McRee, and Billy Crump.
Schweb

Wow, besides both of us getting a triple-circle 10 at Barre Falls back in March, it seems Ron Turner and I have something else in common - we are both donating our entry fees to the NY States!

<FONT SIZE="-2">(only difference is, I will actually be there to play)</FONT>

[neonnoodle]

Where are all of the 980 and 990 something players in Open? You've got 4 players over 999 and the rest under 981.

That's two strokes a round difference average! Where'd they go? Bizarre...

If I keep playing on the East coast my rating should drop well into the 980's soon...Dam the forest....Dam the rain....Looking forward to playing Warwick.

www.lightningdiscgolfdirect.com...is (http://www.lightningdiscgolfdirect.com...is) our latest sponsor.....they are fedexing me a polehole....for free! what a deal....thanks Lightning!

[girlie]

Hey Bill -

Would you share the format with us? Will there be MTA, putting and distance contests to make this an all around event?

Looking forward to seeing you there. Please and Thanks for any info /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

New to a States Event,
Lindsay

[mattdisc]

hey girlie, this state event is purely golf and lots of it.

[girlie]

Hi Matt!

SaWeet /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif I would like to have some all around fun and some day and try the MTA and distance, etc... but, I am relieved that I don't have to work on it right now /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

See you all in 9 days!

Mike Moser, just imformed me his check is in the mail...so add another 1000 player to the mix

Mattydisc is correct NO field events, do people still do those?, just DG

Matt lets see if I can get your mini done and to you before this...

And YES there are many All around players these days.

Just did MD States last weekend, Golf, MTA and Accuracy.

Rest assured if it was an all around, Mose would be tough to beat!

MS

Des and Jay Redding, Mcree, Crump, Moser..the pros fields are getting interesting...still spots available in all divisions but its getting tighter................BN

[warwickdan]

Volunteers needed this Sunday, Sept 28 to help with getting the course(s) in awesome shape for the NY States next weekend!! We'll be just about finished with all 36 concrete tee pads and need help to groom the perimeters of the pads; weed-wack, etc. the course is really shaping up to be in the best shape it's ever been. The work we put in this weekend will really make a huge difference. Contact Newman, Doyle, Mahler, or Pimpy with questions...

[neonnoodle]

If anyone is driving up from the Philly area this Sunday and can give me a ride, I'm in. That drive 2 weeks in a row would be the end of me...

Hey Mike Milne, if your rating keeps dropping and dips into the 980's, then you'll be in my league as i'm a 981 (and thats up from my 979) :-D See ya in a week, i'll be up there all day friday before if you're up for some practice rounds.

Frank's Pizza of Warwick NY, one of our sponsors, will be taking lunch orders both days, sandwedges and Pizza and also a special deal on wings ....12 wings for $3!...... Frank's wings are excellent. If you can please plan on ordering lunch from Franks......

Support your sponsors-they support Disc Golf!

[warwickdan]

The Warwick Conference Center and Camp Warwick, located on a 500-acre site overlooking the Warwick valley, has 10 tent sites available at $22 per nite for the weekend of our event. It is an ideal location just 5-10 minutes from the course. A supermarket, wine&amp;beer store, a bagel shop, a large farm market with organic produce, and a pizza place are less than 1 mile away. The weekend of our event is the most popular weekend for out-of-town visitors the entire year because of the Applefest street festival in downtown Warwick. So if you want to reserve a site you'd better decide quickly before they disappear. You can reach me at 888-914-9131 (work) today until 5:00 PM or tomorrow morning from 9:00 to 1:00 PM. They request only one tent per site. Shower facilities are on-site.

Has it been determined yet what Tee’s and Pins will be used for the tournament? At least for Saturday’s rounds?

How about “Wolf Woods”? Is that going to be used during this tournament?

Thanks

[warwickdan]

Brian...We haven't made a final determination yet as to the exact format. A lot will depend on how many volunteers we get on sunday to help with final preparations. We will NOT use holes that in our opinion aren't of a caliber appropriate for an A-tier event. I know there is a lot of concern among participants about playing Wolfe Woods. Conditions on that course were obviously grim during the Animalfest, mainly because we didn't have good tee pads. All Wolfe holes will have flypads. More grooming has been done. But keep in mind this is intentionally a more penalizing course if you aren't in the fairway. It's supposed to be "rough around the edges". TD Bill Newman wants to cap the field at 100 players (we have 70 pre-registered). If we do indeed cap at 100, my best guess at this point (subject to change) is that we'd add 2 Wolfe holes to the 18 Animal holes and play 2 rounds of 20 holes on saturday (playing 5-somes). Then we'd play a round of 20 holes sunday morning and make some sort of cut for an abbreviated sunday afternoon final round. We'll have a much better idea this sunday evening and will publicize the format early next week....

what Dan said......

one more sponsor on board...

GARDEN IRON-ESSEX CONN., thanks to Jack Nickel

we will be adding WELL OVER $4000 of cold hard hard cash and merchandise to the event!
including a Mach 5 portable, a heavy duty Lightning Disc Basket DB-5, a mini ching basket, and all kinds of other stuff. There are also $200 bonus payouts to the winner of pro and womens pro if you live outside the MADC and NEFA states.....

[morgan]

I'd like to come sunday to help out but I broke my buttt when that big log hit me on 16 long pin. How stupid I was, hit me like 10 tons of bricks. I don't know if the buttt bone is broke. Maybe, never saw the doc. It feels like the bone is broke. The only thing holding it is the swelling. Nasty bruise. Prolly can't play in states but I'll watch. Ouch.

[rmandedog]

Can't wait to check out the new T-pads!

Dan, can you get me directions or an address to the camping area? Probably gonna set up camp then come out and play on Friday.

Thanx, R-MAN

I'll be out on friday as well, I expect a casual round of doubles to happen.......if spots are available, final preregs will happen.......we are getting alot of rain today, but the rest of the week and next weekend currently are looking dry.....BN

Course is looking good!, concrete tee pads will be complete in a few days...Dan and I squared away 3 21 hole layouts, (for the 2 rounds sat. and the first rnd sunday) that use only #9 of the wolfe holes and other holes added to the Animal course. we will then have a cut for a final nine..more details soon...Sat AM will start with Silver to silver (short to short)

Alot of folks will be on the course all day Friday. Doubles Friday at 5 pm is being run By Steve Brinster

[morgan]

My bone is not broke. I'll be playing.

I'm sure that scares a lot of people.

pre reg up to the minute...thanks to Jason Haas, thanks JH!!

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=18&amp;is_official=0

[morgan]

The biggest name registered so far is Jamie Habitzreuther, beats Bobby Cowperthwait and Bobby Einreinhofer by one letter.

[warwickdan]

Tourney TD Bill Newman has made it known that Ron Russell is on his way East to play in the NY States. It just became harder for Morgan to hold onto his $200. We now have a field including Steve Brinster, Brian Schweberger, Brian McRee, Mike Moser, and Ron Russell, along with newly crowned US Women's champ Des Reading.

And Mike Milne, that dudes pretty [*****] good. AT least i hear he was back out west, though he said something about his rating dropping to where mine is playing all these wooded east coast courses /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

[warwickdan]

Newman and I have finally made a decision with regard to the format. We will cap at 100 players (80 currently registered). We will play 2 rounds of 20 holes on Saturday; 1 round of 20 holes Sunday morning; and a cut for a final 9 holes Sunday afternoon. On Saturday the 2 extra holes will be as follows: between Hole #14 and #15 we will play Wolfe Hole #9 from the short tee in Round 1 and from the long tee on Round #2. The 2nd added hole on Saturday will be played after Hole #18 and will tee from the tree line just past the Silver #18 basket. In Round 1 we will play to a temporary basket located just short of the tree line at the end of the field just short of the 14th fairway. In Round 2 we will play to a temporary basket located halfway between the #14 silver basket and the #15 Silver Tee, just short of the woods. The distance of this hole will measure approximately 360 feet to both basket locations. On Sunday, the 2 extra holes will be similar to the 2 temporary holes we played during the Animalfest and will be played after playing Hole #16 and before #17. The first of those holes will be played from the #3 Blue Tee and will play to a temporary basket located at the far end of the rear parking lot just short of the woods (across the parking lot from the #4 Blue Basket). We haven't measured it yet but it will be a legitimate Par 4 somewhere around 700 feet long, with the parking lot being OB on your right for the last 150 feet of your approach shot. The second of the Sunday temporary holes will tee off from somewhere near the other temporary basket and will head back towards the #17 tee. The exact location of tee and basket will be determined Friday morning. All divisions will play Silver-Silver in Round 1; Blue-Silver in Round 2; and Silver-Blue in Round 3 Sunday morning. (However, we may decide to alter this for the Advanced Women's division.) As far as the cut is concerned for Sunday afternoon's round, here is what we know and don't know as of now: Open Pro, Open Masters, and Open Women that make the cut will play holes 10-18 Blue-Blue. We anticipate playing 9 4-somes. As of now, we have approximately 25 Open players, 15 Masters, and 5 Women. Therefore, as of now, 36 of the 45 Open players will make the cut. In the Advanced division, we will have a very limited number of players playing holes 1-9 Blue-Blue. The specific number of players in each division that will make the cut will be posted Sunday morning before the start of Round 3. We are aware that some players aren't excited about adding temporary holes. We would not add holes that are bogus. The holes that we have designed as temporary holes are legitimate holes that allow 10 players to play in this event that would otherwise not be playing. We also feel that playing one hole on the Wolfe Woods course on Saturday keeps the spirit of Scott Wolfe as part of our event. We have obviously compromised here to a great degree in that although we really wanted to play all 9 Wolfe Woods holes, we didn't want a repeat of the poor conditions we had to deal with from the rain during the Animalfest. Wolfe hole #9 has been groomed and will have flypads on both tees. It will be an opportunity to give players a feel for what some of the holes will be like once we finish with the new 18 holes sometime in 2004. We hope you'll come out on Friday and play a practice round. A random doubles event is being organized by Steve Brinster for 5:00 PM sharp Friday. See you at the NY States!!

[warwickdan]

i knew i'd be nailed about leaving someone off the list....sorry mike....

Looking forward to Warwick, I have heard many good things from Mitch and Brinster about the course. I'll be in town thursday afternoon looking for some local routes, I hope a few folks will be available to play 20 holes or so. Just came back from NY city, wow,, could of used a disc on the top of the Empire state building. Might of been able to reach central park... /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
See ya all next week...

Ron Russel is the biggest name registered, I dont care what the morganotor says...pre reg is all but over except for a few spots remaining open for very tardy pro players

Friday, Brinster,Schwee, Mcree, Crump and the Reddings will be doing an Innova clinic for all those interested in learning, followed by a round of doubles...clinic at 3, dubs at 4

[warwickdan]

Format Change Announcement: A long evening of extended conversation and debate between Newman, Doyle, and a few others caused us to re-evaluate the format i had posted monday afternoon. What we ended up asking ourselves, and should have asked ourselves before coming to a premature format announcement yesterday, was "What is it that makes Warwick special and what are our obligations as a PDGA A-tier event?" Once we took a look at the answers to those questions last nite we realized what we needed to do. So newman has empowered me to announce an amended format: We will cap at 90 players and play 18-hole rounds. Saturday we will play Silver-Silver in the morning and Silver-Blue in the afternoon. Sunday morning we will play Blue-Silver in the morning. Then we will cut to 27 players (total from all divisions) and those 27 players will play 18 holes Blue-Blue (9 3-somes). The number of players that survive the cut from each division is still to be determined. Getting back to the 2 questions I posed above....What makes warwick special, in part, is the 4 different layouts. Especially the Blue-Blue layout. We felt that it was important for the top players, some of whom will have travelled a great distance, to play this layout that they have heard so much about from local touring players like brinster, demark, and sonderfan. To only play 9 of those holes wouldn't have been a good decision. Because of daylight concerns and a field of 90 players on an 18-hole course, the only way we can squeeze in that layout is to limit the number and size of the groups. One obligation as an A-tier is that we should try and attract and showcase top players. In retrospect, we should have done whatever we could to avoid 5-somes. This has been a learning experience for both newman and myself. We have already spoken about what we should do in 2004. If Wolfe Woods is ready a year from now then we'll be fine because we'll have 36 holes. Otherwise we could run the event over 2 consecutive weekends, with the non-pros the first wekeend and Pros only the second weekend. We are confident we have made the proper decision and apologize for any inconvenience we may have caused by changing the format 4 days before the event. Come join us for the Innova clinic on Friday afternoon at 3:00 and for random doubles at 4:00 PM....

This event is almost full! If you haven't registered and want to play, don't delay!

Updated Prereg:
NY States Current Registration (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=18&amp;is_official=0)

Registration Form (Better call or email at this point):
NY States Registration Form (http://www.madisc.org/flyers/03NYSFly.png)

I was back in NY/NJ this past weekend and as always I got in my ceremonial visit to Warwick. Always love coming back and now with the Wolfe Woods, this place has become a disc golfing MECCA!

I played Wolfe's #9, #1, and #2 (I believe, from up on the hill). Played all from the blue pads and enjoyed the crap out of it /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif.

Good work guys and good luck during States. Wish I could make it.

[warwickdan]

Large Dark Canine: Thanks for the compliments! You might be the first out-of-towner to post here and compliment us for some Wolfe holes!! We've obviously still got a long way to go but we feel when we're "done" in 10 years (a good course continues to grow and evolve) it'll be fabulous.
We'll probably get a lot of work done on the course over the winter (snow permitting). Having that snakelike creek will allow us to create some sweet holes.

----Having that snakelike creek will allow us to create some sweet holes.---

and some sweet local knowledge.

I thought my drive on #1 from the blue pad was pretty good, but maybe that it didn't turn quite enough right (I was going for it of course) AND when I get up there I see that the creek winds to the left and I was OB! I thought #9 was sweet and that creek made for a really nice environment/green. And the blue pad for #2 up the hill was sweet...I bet there are tons of options for green around there.

Wolfe Woods reminds me a bit of how the new Waco (East) course looks. STAY ON THE FAIRWAY!!!! I commend you guys on clearing fairways - I can imagine what it used to look like.

[drivethruliquor]

Dan Doyle,

Oops...let me be the second one to congratulate you and the club for Wolfe's Woods. Of Course, I've only seen 9 holes, but they were very challenging nine holes...lots of trouble went in to making those holes...and there's lots of trouble left out there to contend with!

Anyone birdie hole 1 or 2 in a tourney yet?

Bummer the Woods couldn't be ready for the A-tier, but all the people that would've thrown OB, repeatedly, thank you /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Glad to hear the tee-pad have recieved so much attention. Good Luck this weekend!!

[warwickdan]

Mr. Randolph....the only tourney those holes were used for was the animalfest. i don't recall if there were any birdies during that event. we really wanted to use those holes for ny states but there was just too much resistance on the part of players not feeling they were in good enough condition to be used for an A-tier event. i think the bad conditions in the rain at Animalfest has been etched in everyone's memories. We've had a lot of rain the last month and a flash flood last week took out a few bridges and made things squishy again. We probably could have made the holes ready but at least this way the Des Readings and Ron Russell type players (they'll both be in attendance) will get to play much more of the Animal course. We'll actually be finishing with 3-somes on the Blue-Blue!! When we finally finish with Wolfe Woods we'll have some amazing collection of 36 holes....Thanks for the compliments. Too bad you couldn't come out here a week early for keemaa and jen's wedding, play the ny states, and then head up to Mass. for their big day.

The Lazy Boy Saloon in white plains NY is our latest and maybe our last sponsor this year...thanks Go to Daver coats (one of their best customers...) for getting them on board...thanks DC!

Can someone give some good directions to the course? I have been to the course once but had some confusion getting there. I can get to 17 and 17a but what's the best way from there? Thanks for the help....

[morgan]

From Syracuse take 81 to Binghamton and jump on route 17. Take route 17 all the way to Middletown and get off the exit that says Florida, NY. I think it's exit 122 or 124 or something, I forget. But it's the only one that says Florida. When the ramp ends turn left and go maybe 7 or 8 miles to Florida, and turn right after the hardware store that's Wheeler Road I think. Stay on the main road about 2 miles, the road forks and changes names a few times but stay on the biggest road at all the forks. After 2 or 3 miles Warwick Town Park is on the left. Drive up the driveway until you see all the dozens of cars full of hippies bragging about their new discs. That's hole 1.

[bschweberger]

HIPPIES !!!! This sport doesn't have any hippies.
LOL. The Carolina Crew is heading for Warwick bright and early in the morning. We will be there all day on Thursday and Friday. See everybody soon, can't wait.
Schweb

[warwickdan]

Gary...here's an amendment to morgan's directions. the exit for florida is exit 124. at the end of the exit ramp go left onto rt 17A towards florida. you'll enter downtown florida and make a right turn onto bridge street, which is the 2nd traffic lite in town. bridge turns into highland after about 200 yards, and highland turns into wheeler about 200 yards later. after you pass the black bear campground on your left, stay left at the fork onto union corners road. the park is about 2 miles later on the left...avoid the hippies in the park. they aren't disc golfers...

[morgan]

Gary are you the only one representing Central NY? Where are all the Syracuse hippie golfers? Is Sam coming with you?

Oh yeah, did you know there's one really good player from Syracuse? I hear he's pretty good rated around 1020 or something, top 5 in the world. Brian Hamburger or Cheese doodle or something. They say he's from NC but he talks with a distinct Syracuse accent and he's been known to wear orange clothing from time to time.

[Chris Hysell]

Morgan is Wright. Earlier today I talked to Billy Crump, then McRee and when they handed the phone to Schwey, I really couldn't understand him. He was reverting back into a Northerner.

Good call Dan and Bill. I'll be there all day friday.

Thanks for the directions, this helps alot. As far as I know I am the only Central New Yorker in the feild. I do know a couple Rochester players that will be there. Sam is getting ready for our CNY DG Championships next Sunday the 12th.
Can't wait to play the course again. See you all Saturday.
oh, at least hippies throw frisbees...

[gump]

I'm driving up from South Central PA, tomorrow evening and haven't made reservations for a place to crash. Does anyone have room for one more person at a campground? I can sleep in my car but would like a place to shower in the morning?

email me if you have a spot left @ pblunt42@hotmail.com

Thanks,

Phil D.

[gump]

Nick Newman, Greg C? Anyone?

[Moderator005]

Any golfers that aren't playing in the tournament are more than welcome to help me and the other assistant tournament directors in spotting during the tourny. We may need people spotting the blue long tee of hole 3, the silver short pin position on hole 12, the blue long pin position on hole 14, and possibly a few other places. Of course, your help would also be appreciated in checking scorecards after each round. During rounds that spotters aren't needed, you're more than welcome to join me for casual golf on the Wolfe Woods course, which is not being used during the tournament.

we are officially full, at 90 players
go to:

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=18&amp;is_official=0

for the details

Innova Clinic at 3, doubles at 4 tomorrow (friday) see ya there BN

[Moderator005]

Here are my predicitions for the top finishers in Open:

1) Schweberger
2) Russell
3) Brinster
4) McCree
5) Moser
6) Milne
7) Klosky
8) Sonderfan

Brian McRee shot a record matching(he holds the Warwick course record)12 under silver-silver yesterday. Then he aced #3 silver-blue in his next round.
He is playing very well. Shot the round w/ Billy, Brian &amp; Brinster.

Dont count out some of the "sleepers" in the field making it into the cash:

B.O.B.
Ted Phillips (Mt.Kisco's finest)
Jay Redding
Bob Hoffman
Shawn Breske

Top 8 in the open field by rating:

Russell
Schweberger
Moser
McRee
Brinster
Milne
Sonderfan
Klosky

As you can see Jeff is really going out on a limb with his predictions. I think that Ron will win easily as he is the best player in the field. What is interesting about this field is that there is only one player (Milne) rated between 981 and 1015. I think it would be quite a surprise if any of the <1000 players take one of the top 5 spots from the 1015 players.

[neonnoodle]

Such is the lot of most A Tiers. The "Have" and the "Have Nots". Still fun though...

[neonnoodle]

I've got the spreadsheets loaded and the Gators prepped. Fat Stat Man will be in the house.