Post reviews of the new Discraft Buzzz here

I wanna hear what everyone thinks about the buzzz. Should thetre be a 'buzzz' about this disc or not? I haven't had time to throw it yet and I will tell you what I think when I get a chance to. But for those of you who have, post your review here.

[Chris Hysell]

Mine is very <FONT COLOR="ff6000">orange</FONT> and has a funny little bee picture on it. I threw it 3 or 4 times but it didn't go into a basket. I let a Team Innova guy throw it and I swear I saw a smile.

> I let a Team Innova guy throw it and I swear I saw a smile.

Are you sure it wasn't a grimace? /clipart/happy.gif

When I threw the Buzzz it went exactly the direction I wanted, but much further than I thought it would.

or is it "farther"?

[sandalman]

farther.

a further throw is required to reach the farther pin position.

Farther and further have been used more or less interchangeably throughout most of their history, but currently they are showing signs of diverging. As adverbs they continue to be used interchangeably whenever spatial, temporal, or metaphorical distance is involved. But where there is no notion of distance, further is used {our techniques can be further refined}. Further is also used as a sentence modifier {further, the workshop participants were scarcely optimistic -- L. B. Mayhew}, but farther is not. A polarizing process appears to be taking place in their adjective use. Farther is taking over the meaning of distance {the farther shore} and further the meaning of addition {needed no further invitation}.

Thanks for all your knowledge guys. But how about some real reviews. Mine is orange too Chris. 177 grams to be exact and I cant wait to get my [*****] out on the course and throw it.

Thanks Mr. Brenner /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif I had a feeling I was wrong.

Brian, the one I threw was <FONT COLOR="ff6000">orange</FONT> also.

[james_mccaine]

I only threw it twice, playing catch at shortrange, but it flew on a beeline with just a little pop. Based on that limited data, I got the impression that it was a very straight flyer and relatively fast for a midrange. If it handles the wind well, I bet it's a real useful and popular disc.

[sandalman]

i tried my-hero's last weekend. it is extremely smooth and long. it is NOT overly stable like a z-wasp - it is for straight shots rather than s-balls. it holds a line just like it is advertised - hyser, flat or annie.

dont have any yet, but that will change soon i hope. it looks like a very solid midrange. there will definitely be a buuuzzzzz about this one. prolly a buuuzzzzz about how it flew real straight, held the line, etc, right into the chains.

should be a perfect complement to the breeze in the upshot section of the bag.

Good review Sandalman. Lots of good info. Thats good that it flies straight instead of doin s-curves like the Z wasp does. I look forward to tryin it.

[boru]

"Farther and further have been used . . . no further invitation}. "

And in that explanation lies the great secret of English grammar and usage: You can't be wrong . . . technically. Since there is no official governing body of the English language, and hence no official codification, we have to rely on convention and precedent in deciding what's right. Much of what our English teachers used to call "proper", when tracked to its point of origin, turns out to be the arbitrary assertions of people with no authority to make rules - and often no intention of doing so. So if you're going to be wrong, do it consistently and with confidence, and someday your mistake may become part of our vernacular. It might even end up in a textbook.

Wait a minute, this thread was about the Z Buzzz . . . Oh yeah, lookin' forward to gettin' my hands on one of them things.

Best most versitle disc on the market right now the only thing i can compare it to is a beat up Ching Roc which takes about a year or so to get so if you like beat up ching rocs or even regular beat up DX rocs then i suggest you buy the Buzzz and feel What all the BUZZZ is about you can throw it on any line and it will just hold it forever so much distance once you throw and learn it youll love it.......by the way they are all orange as far as i know guys........the heavier the better.....and if any one has any they want to get rid of that are 175 and over and have a flat top let me know ill take them off your hands immediatley

If the bead is gone, is the rim similar to the MRX? is it a smooth or sharp underedge?

smooth and yes it is a little bit smaller i believe then the Z Wasp rim but let me tell you youll love it once you throw it

The rom is SMOOTH and couldn't feel any better. Not an edgy edge likethe Wasp if that makes any sense.

[sandalman]

total sense. the best description of the rim is that it is the wasp without the bead. so it is smooth and feels very comfy

Just ordered 2 of those mugs. I can't wait to get buzzzzed!

I throw the Wasp and Comet because they HAVE a bead.

The MRX and MRV (beadless buggers) feel sharp underneath to me. If the buzz is similar to the MRX/MRV i'll pass. The breeze however doesn't have a bead but still is smooth in the hand.

[Chris Hysell]

The bottom of the Buzzz is pretty flat. Put a Wasp on a sanding wheel and hold it down for 30 seconds. Instant Buzzz, minus a bunch of grams. Don't try this at home.

This Disc isn't the least bit sharp. It is one of the Smoothest rims I've ever seen. It feels great. And the Z plastic that they used on the buzz is the best-feeling Z plastic i've seen.

Chris, got some 4 sale? Send your old NJ buddy some.
Hey, what are you doing on this board? How come you are not in S.C.?

Rob

IS THE BUZZ THE ACE RACE DISC???

[Chris Hysell]

Sorry Rob, I only have one. I may be getting some in the future. The Ace Race disc is called the Breeze.

[dannyreeves]

This disc is GREAT! I got mine in yesterday and had to throw it. It goes dead straight. Don't be afraid to throw it hard. It can take power.

I threw it for the first time yesterday. It flew great when I got a clean release. It holds great lines. Not the s-curve BS that the Wasp does. I came very close to aces on 4 holes with this disc yesterday! And that is just the first time I threw it! I'm not really even that used to it yet. This should be a great disc and I like it way better than the Wasp.

[Chris Hysell]

Brian, I have been throwing the Pro D Wasp that was sent to me when Discraft first released them. It is just starting to fly perfect. Over the last few months, I have tried to work two Z-Wasps into my game. They have proven to be too overstable for me. I think the Buzzz will become an important disc in my bag. I haven't counted out the Breeze yet. It has it's purposes as well.

I've played 2 rounds with this disc in the last couple of days (throwing my buzz's on every shot) to try and figure it out. And to my suprise I've been shooting just slightly worst scores than what I average when I play out of my entire bag. I think the real testament to this disc is that it can really be thrown on any line. I am suprised that a disc I can throw in a nice big annie will also perfectly hold a nice hyzer line too. Like Kid Roc said, even when released flat it can take a pop without flipping. Great disc, it has all the characteristics of a perfectly worn in midrange except for one thing, it seems to resist flipping better than a worn in disc does.

[circle_2]

Sounds like a brilliant idea to be able to buy a seasoned Wasp/Roc that is perfect right out of the box! Now, when one's favorite Wasp/Roc is lost...voila!

[dannyreeves]

Exactly!

[dannyreeves]

Hey JD, will this replace your Comet? I just started throwing a Comet when I lost my Roc that I had beat just right to fly straight. Now the Buzzz comes out and that seems to fly better than the Comet (for I use it for). The Comet will definetly fly farther but it is more speed sensitive and more sensitive to wind. The Buzzz isn't something that I would throw into a stiff headwind but it held up yesterday into a light headwind.

I can see a use for a beat up Comet for understable midrange.

Danny,

NO WAY will anything ever replace my comet. In my opinion there isn't a truer flying disc made. Once a comet is a little worn in, there isn't a better disc for a 250' anhyzer.

The Buzz has way more versatility though.

The Z-Buzz flys exactly like I always hoped a Z-Comet would.

I thought there was only 5 other people in the world who threw the Comet! Maybe we should start a Comet thread! http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

I can't believe that anyone who witnessed Ron Russels shot with a Comet on the 2nd Final 9 hole during the 2002 Worlds in Houston didn't immediately go out and purchase 10. Easily the most incredible shot I have ever seen.

[dannyreeves]

I understand JD. I used my Comet a lot at Porter last weekend. Like I said, I havn't thrown it for that long and haven't really hit too many trees with it yet. I need to beat it just a little for anhyzers.

What I meant about it replacing the Comet is that a brand new Comet is just STRAIGHT. You can throw it hyzer, flat and annie and it will do it all. I think for dead straight shots the Buzz will be my choice but a nicely seasoned Comet is great for the anhyzer midrange.

[dannyreeves]

Ron is a freak with the Comet.

[james_mccaine]

Come on now Jim. As Climo (or someone else said) "it's the Archer, not the Arrow." http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

That sentiment does have some truth to it James, but I have not found an equivalent disc put out by another manufacturer equal to the Comet.

For those of us who weren't at PW2002 let's hear the play by play of this famed Comet shot.

[disctance00]

yeah what happened?

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With the money sign representing the basket.

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The tee-pad is elevated so that you are throwing about top of tree level. Most players with big arms elect to throw over the tops of the trees, thus throwing over O.B., but rarely birdy. The smart play is to throw a long annie, that will give you a good chance at a clean upshot.

The wind is up and players aren't having much success. When Ron rips out the comet I'm thinking nice safe shot around O.B., well Ron rips one straight ahead of him, it looks like this thing is just going to sit down right at the 90 degree turn, but then it banks right HARD just as it passes O.B., and somehow manages to then FLOAT right the extra 300 feet necessary to get to the basket. The comet nearly ACES the friggin thing, I have never seen a disc take a 90 degree turn as that one did so far away from the thrower.

The best part about it was that being a COMET, it took FOREVER to get there, pleasing the crowd as it gets closer and closer.

Only a Comet baby!!!!

[okcacehole]

I have touted the power of the comet for years and tried to get all my friends to put one in the bag. Comets thrown in a power Anhyzer just don't turn back out ( which is exactly what you want). If anyone hasn't given them a shot...you should. Just my 2 cents

That's one of the cool things I've enjoyed about working a Comet into my bag, JD. The way it goes straight (with the correct release) for a long way then takes a definitive right turn, rather than flipping outta the hand. Its a sweetheart of a disc.

Can't wait to try the Buzzzzzzzz. Maybe Justin can get me one. http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

Thanks Jim! I wish I was there to see it!

I was given 2 buzz's a couple of weeks ago, i started to throw them about 10 days ago on a short wooded course with very narrow fairways. Normally i would just bring roc's and aviars to this course, the buzz is a disc that you can control very easy, it will hold a straight line for a long distance with a little fade at the end, if you throw with anhyzer it will carry. I then put the disc in my bag at our longer more open course and proceeded to throw the buzz on every hole to see what it could do with some distance and wind, i was able to make this thing hyzer for holes around 300' and anhyzer about the same, as i approched some long straight holes where you have to use a driver instead of a roc or other midrange disc, i figured i would see what the buzz did with some power and snap behind the shot, i was getting this disc to go straight to the pin on holes that were from 325 to 350' today i threw it on a downhill hole that is 532' (hole 9 V.A.Barrie park) and parked the hole. I recomend that everyone give this disc a try.

[Chris Hysell]

I never really mastered the Comet but I have seen Ron work that thing. Back in the day we played doubles together and I remember parking some longer holes with a Cyclone and he was doing the same with the Comet. It was impressive. Ron probably works those things better than anyone I know. Walter Haney was a close 2nd but Innova put him on the team and he had to give them up.

One of my accomplishments has been to convert some of the aviar throwers in the area to Comet throwers.

BTW, an old school guy was begging me last weekend for some original Elite Comets. Someone could make a mint off of him.

Jimmy D, yeah that was an incredible display of control.

My favorite memory, if you can imagine. Ron and I played the mini in San Antonio this spring and he nearly aced hole # 2. I punched my Roc on the same line and hit the ace worth $400.00. He claims I stole his line! My shot was 1 in 200 and his was 1 in 10. If I threw Discraft I would definitely throw the Comet.

That story about the comet is the most unbelievable shot i have ever heard of! That like defies the law of disc physics! How can a disc turn over and glide for 300 feet right. That is truely amazing. I guess it is one of those things you would have to see to believe. Those pros are amazing!

No disrespect to the comet throwers. But lets get back to the Buzzz reviews. Thats what this thread is about.

[disctance00]

Thanks Jim

[pterodactyl]

I was standing right behind Ron when he tossed that one. It was a nice, nose-down throw. It was a shot made for that disc.

I was watching tha throw from the botom of the hill.
I thoght it was goin' in we were thinking it must be a seasoned cyclone or somthing. went over and looked sure enough comet. I always liked the ce classic roc for straight straight shots wish i could get some am interested in the buzz

ce

I have been throwing the buzzz for the past week or so now and I can confidently say that it is the best disc in my bag. I throw it with hyzer and It will fly dead straight and sometimes fade back a little at the end. I have came close to so many aces already with this disc. It has already started to shave some strokes off my game. I just recently broke my personal record at my home course (Triangle Sports Area in Green Bay,WI) which before was a 9 under (45). Yesterday I just shot an 11 under (43) thanks to flawless driving with my buzzz. This disc is a must have.

[circle_2]

Is the Buzzz available in all plastics?

no the BUZZZ is only available in Z plastic at the moment but there is really no reason to make it in any other plastic since it holds any line you could possibly put it on.....well i havent tried to roll mine yet but who knows maybe you can.....they also come in this baby blue color and yellow now......The best ones i have found are the max weight flat Top ones.....i have thrown a few domey ones and dont like them at all...i think they are all coming out of the molds Flat Top now though.....i currently own 3 and have 2 more 178 blues on order from www.SnapPlastic.Com (http://www.SnapPlastic.Com) they have them in Stock in all colors so if your looking to get BUZZZED check them out and they can hook you up.....im also buying two more at the local party Store when they Arrive so ill have 7 in total.....you cant have to many of the best disc on the Market.....They also seem to fall only 20 to 30 short of my Average Driver so its a must try for everyone and if you Dont Like it Email me and ill buy yours off you if its 176 Grams or more........So Stop wasting your time beating up rocs and get BUZZED

i just got mine and <FONT COLOR="ff0000">LOVE IT</FONT>.
i had some friends try mine out and love it also, two said they were going to go and get theirs tommorrow. i'm going to get a couple extra myself.

candy cobra better.

[dannyreeves]

yeah right

This disc is awesome. It's one of those discs you can throw a couple of times and you just know what it is going to do. I like the fact that it's not as stable as a Wasp, but you can still throw it firm and it will keep it's line. I will be throwing this one when it's too windy for my Z-Comet.

[pterodactyl]

I second the Candy Cobra. It's my Roc. Haven't even seen a Buzzz yet.

Hey steve. You do make a good point about Rocs getting beat up quickly. But when Rocs are new to slightly used they are the best disc on the planet. And its not like they get beat up right away....unless you like playing on very wooded courses. I cant explain why but Rocs just go exactly where you throw them on a prefectly straight line. I have 4 aces with a Roc out of 5 total in my 2.5 year career (4 of them this year.) No other mid-range has ever gotten me an ace. The buzzz is a great disc though and is a close second. Right now the Buzzz and the Roc are my 2 fav. discs. It is a great compliment to just be in the conversation with the DX Roc.

I still believe it is the best disc on the market right now......or should i say most versatile disc on the market...........i used to be an all innova man myself but i am converting my bag to all DISCRAFT except champion vikings for my long distance drivers cuz nothing in DISCRAFTS line matches it right now.........I advize everyone reading this thread to get BUZZZED immediatley.............. i have a couple extra orange ones if anyone wants them........... a 174 and a 172.....they are just to light for me...... been thrown about ten times a piece ill get rid of them for like ten bucks a piece or so just holler at me at CronicILLZ@hotmail.com and we can work something out
KEEP ON BUZZZING

[my_hero]

If you want to catch a Buzzz, find me at the AM VPO.http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif I'll be staffing, so i could be anywhere.

[timmyg]

What a QUALITY guy My-Hero is. Not only is he staffing/volunteering, but he's offering the chance to catch a Buzzz!http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif Good to see ya USDGC My-Hero. Next year!
The Buzzz has earned its spot in my bag immediatley. It should be called "The Smoooooooth" in my opinion.

[circle_2]

Wishing My-Hero a QUALITY marriage as well! Congrads, John!! Okie Open for you? Oh wait...you're married now. Well......have a good winter! http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/proud.gif

[sandalman]

i dont wanna catch a buzzzzz... i wanna THROW one!

you want to throw one i got two extras that im getting rid of for like ten bucks a piece just email me with your address if you want them
CroniciLLZ@hotmail.com

Bzzzzzzzzz......whos next to get stung? This disc is sweet, and no it's not like any other disc made, truly original. Great 4 control shots and touch turnovers. Ya Heard!!!

[Sharky]

How does it compare to the "one disc" used in the ace race ? (Or is that what it is?) thanks

BZZZZZ is a modified wasp, doesn't have the bead on the bottom lip.
the lip looks like my (RETIRED)CE SHARK,

FLYS ANY WAY YOU THROW IT!!!

I LUV MINE

haven't thrown mine from the ace race(long story)
but that lip looks like my SNIPER(somewhat).

What is the glide like on this thing? It is flat like a pancake! Way flatter than the Wasp. Does it even have half the glide of a Comet?

[bruce_brakel]

I won one today. I sold it for $20 five minutes later. Hey, that's all that matters to me in a disc! Retail value, baby!

Hey Steve. Before you said that u used to be an all Innova guy yourself. Basically saying that I must be too. I carry around about 16 discs in my bag and about 2/3 of them are Discraft. Basically all I have from Innova are...2 Teebirds (DX and Champion), Champion Monster, Roc, and Champion Valkyrie. Thats it. The rest of my discs are all Discraft. I am not biased towards either company. They both make great discs. You are right about the Buzzz having no equal though! Its a great disc.

[circle_2]

How does the Buzzz compare to a Storm?

Threw one this weekend at VPO (Thanks My Hero) and loved it. Very straight, even with a good rip. Straight like a Storm, but slightly more resitant to high speed turn.

I Love The Buzz!

[Sharky]

Where can I get a few? Thanks.

[bruce_brakel]

Byron Big D Doubles will have them. Cart rental is mandatory but green fees are waived for the day. Guys from Maryland can sleep for free at the TD's house or in Tracy's barn if you like the smell of dairy cows. MMM-mmmm!

Hey Brian Assuming your talking to me I have since decide change my whole bag over to all Discraft Except for the Innova Champion Vikins a Ce Ryhno and a KC Pro 10 time Aviar for Drives.......Im am still in the process of changing but i have changed out my CE Eagles for Predators My Rocs for BUZZZ's and Wasps and am still trying to find Equals for my Valks and T-birds in the Discraft line up......Im doing this not because Innova Makes Bad Discs or anything i love the Viking i cant find anything i can throw as far as those......but because i believe Discraft makes a more consistent disc......I think im going to try the Z X2 to replace CE T-Birds for Long Straight shots and the Z Cyclone to replace the Valks for my turnovers.....Thanks Discraft for helping my gamehttp://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gifhttp://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gifhttp://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif
BUT EVERYONE STILL NEEDS TO GET BUZZZED!!!!!

[gokayaksteven]

z-xl's if you like tl's

Thats cool Steve. But Good luck finding a Discraft Replacement for a Teebird. I have tried and there is no match for the Teebird. That disc is great and has always been my favorite driver in both DX and Champion. I have never seen anything that flies nearly as straight as the Teebird. It is still one of my longest too. My X Wildcat can probably only beat it by 10...maybe 15 feet at the most. If I were you I'd stick with a Teebird. Don't throw your Roc away either. Discraft doesn't really have a match for that. The Z Wasp is more overstable than a new DX Roc and the buzzz is more understable. Maybe I am just stuck on Rocs because all but one of my aces are with them. I like the Buzzz almost as much as a Roc.

By the way, I played in a little local tourney here in Green Bay this past weekend and I was using the Buzzz as my main disc. My first round was a disaster, shooting a 1 under (53). But the wind died down a little for the 2nd round so I could throw my Buzzz more and I made a huge comeback, shooting and tieing my personal best round of 11 under (43). I dropped the Buzzz within 10 feet of the hole on countless holes. This disc is very easy to get in a groove with. It got me a 2nd place finish in a field of 30-40 golfers and my 11 under was the low round of the day by a long shot. The Buzzz is a very consistant disc to say the least!

Well aren't you the horses patoot Brian! Congrats on Buzzz driven come back.

My 2-cents.

Wasp = Roc. If the Pro-D Wasp isn't overstable enough, then try a X-Wasp...very reliable. If you want something in between the D-Wasp and the X-Wasp, try a Photon Wasp! My Photon ruled all upshots at Rock Hill.

Personally I think the X-Pred is similar to the Teebird, especially once it get's slightly worn.

Got that Discraft sponsorship yet, BBD?

[james_mccaine]

Hey, you Discraft fanatics, what's with all these prefixes? Adam is confusing me. A Pro-D?, An X? A Photon? Hell, I've only thrown a Z wasp and you did not even mention that one.

By the way, a Z wasp in heavy weights (thanks John) is an absolute jewel, but I'm not sure that it comparable to any roc I have. Maybe the 2003 USDGC roc, but still more overstable.

[my_hero]

James, You've got some catching up to do!!! The Pro-D plastic is similar to innova's DX plastic. Elite-X plastic is basically Discrafts old plastic, good and grippy; kind of similar to innova's SE plastic. Photon Glo plastic is in a league of it's own. Not only does it glow long and bright, but it's also kind of a cross between Pro-D and Elite-X plastic. Of course, you know how good the Z plastic ishttp://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif Come see me at the VPO, i'll show you all of ithttp://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[seewhere]

and you will be able to catch a BUZZ as well. http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[tafe]

Steve, forget that Z-Cyclone for a Valk replacement. They are nothing alike. Try a Z-Wildcat. It's my bread butter. It turns easily but always comes back. If I want more turn, I use a UV Wildcat, but they are fragile. Good luck.

John, very funny!

From what I've heard, I think I would have had a better chance to get sponsorship when I was an AM. http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/sad.gif

thanks tafe i also enjoyed playin with you in indianna at the Homie tournament in the last round of the day........What do you think about the Z X2 might be close to a Teebird or no.....Im talking about Complete turnovers not S shots with the Cyclone i have to take alot off my Valks to stop them From flipping so much......thanks for the help though and have you read the Thread the Masters Wrote about me........LMFAO.....you have to read it its hillarious

[tafe]

It's been a LONG time since I threw an X2 in any plastic. I don't really know how it compares, but it's probably slower in its flight. I think the closest thing to a T-bird Discraft makes would be a Z Talon. Talon's stabilities are opposite from everything else meaning that Z's are the least stable while Photons are pigs and X's are in the middle. I use a Talon when I need to hyzer all the way or if it's a little too heady for the Cat but not enough for the FX. BTW, after learning some early, ugly lessons I will be nice to everybody on this board. It really <FONT COLOR="ff0000">•••••</FONT> to travel somewhere for the first time and have somebody already not like you just beacause of something that was said here. Just something to think about.

thanks ill keep that in mind.......im not trying to <FONT COLOR="ff0000">••••</FONT> anyone off i just put what i think and they got all upset about it....its because 90 percent of the people here throw all innova so there is no Discraft support.........Thanks for the advice.........they are just upset i have an opinion that is opposite their own......not out to make any enemies....but why should i sit back and let them rip me a new one for no reason

[girlie]

Steve I saw a bit more of a swing on your posts - voicing ideas is one thing - trying to force them on to others is something totally different.

Be free - make choices - stand by your decisions - be accountable - be reasonable - avoid blanket statements (i.e., 90 percent of the people here throw all innova so there is no discraft support - where do you come up with this crap?)- be respectful - get rid of the US vs. THEM attitude.

But as for the replys you have been receiving - find the humor (because I'm certainly laughing and I'm not alone) and also realize that you asked for it http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/proud.gif

[boru]

Steve-

I throw an X X2, and would definitely endorse it. It tends toward overstable, but is easy to throw straight, and will hold a turn if you throw it anhyzer. I don't know how it compares to the Z.

OK OK OK........chill the <FONT COLOR="ff0000">••••</FONT> out these are disscusions i never directly told any one they had to throw anything i just suggested they try it because it worked for me............and pretty much everyone is ripping me for changing to Discraft.......no one is supporting me..........they made it US VS THEM by making a entired thread about how i switched, and being assholes about it.........sorry to everyone i ****** off i stand by the fact that i believe Discraft make better Discs like it or not just give me reasons that innova is better now why im a *******........and girlie i am laughing my <FONT COLOR="ff0000">•••</FONT> off at this stuff its hilarious......all in good fun over here......thanks

Taking It In Stride OUT

Thread drift.......

[dannyreeves]

Adam, what's up? Can't wait to see you at VPO. Are you throwing the Buzzz?

I got a couple BUZZZs from Johnny John John at the USDGC and haven't really thrown them much.

Actually, after our 3rd round at Winthrop, John and I went up to NC for another huge round at Renaissance. I threw it a few times then. And I likey a lot! http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif I think the BUZZZ is a very logical mold that I'm surprised hasn't come out earlier!!! It's comfy, grippy, durable, straight, and will probably only get better when it becomes experienced. How's that for a free Quality endorsement? I likey the quality plastic, but nobody throws it here in SoCal. Discraft needs a SoCal infusion...

That day we played Rock Hill (>10K) and then Renny Gold (>7K). Things were a bit sore for our final round on Sunday.

Oh, and I too am very excited to return to the ADGA, play Veterans, and see old friends. http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/proud.gif

[rob]

bbd, what did you think of Renny Gold?

[tafe]

Give me an X!

[tafe]

Give me a B!

[tafe]

Give me a U!

[tafe]

Give me a Z!

[tafe]

Times three!

[tafe]

What's that spell? X BUZZZ, X BUZZZ c'mon X BUZZ! I like the mold but I have a hard time gripping that plastic. X could be deadly. This could replace my beat D Wasp which in turn replaced my DX Roc. I like.

[channelz]

Tafe needs an X....I got an X wife you can have lol

[tafe]

Seconds from Bart? Wouldn't exactly say I'm jumping up and down! Mint first-runs only please! http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/smile.gif

Ah, Renny Gold was fantastic! http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/proud.gif

One of my favorite aspects of a golf course are greens with character. Rocks, trees, elevation, and spectacular views make Renny's greens lots o' fun. Where else would you have a 15' putt staight up (#2) or several greens that were comprised of rock outcrops (except for maybe Warwick).

We struggled to find all the tee pads for the Gold Course, but managed to play the correct course. What a blast, especially watching My-Hero throw a 2' drive into the dirt in front of him. Whatever hole that was (entirely along a stairway through the trees) was great. Reminded me a little of Stairway To Hell in the Redwoods of Arcata, Humboldt.

It's obvious that incredible amounts of work were involved to create this course. Congrats, I can't wait to get back to Rock Hill so I can play some more in Charlotte.

And coming back full swing...

This is where I first used the Z-Buzzz. I borrowed My-Hero's and it flew as predicted and achieved a couple birdies http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif.

[my_hero]

Yea, i threw a 2' drive on the "stairway" hole, but i also took a 3(birdie) on gold hole #18! Bzzzzzz! Looking forward to seeing BBD in Big D for the VPO!http://www.pdga.com/discus/clipart/proud.gif

Got a BUZZZ this weekend, and its awfully sweet...

red 178 grams...

<FONT COLOR="ff0000">••••</FONT> straight, with a slight turn at the end....

[Sharky]

How does the Buzz compare to a Champion Cobra?

Ditto about Big D at the VPO from OOPro.

[tafe]

I just realized something. This is a Discraft disc and it's FLAT. Finally, now how about a replacement for my FX's.

[my_hero]

If you want to catch a buzzz at the VPO, come find me!!! I have purple one's, blue one's, and red one's!!

[widiscgolf]

I too, have a Champion Cobra. How does it compare to the Buzz?

Josh
WiDiscGolf (http://www.widiscgolf.com)
josh@widiscgolf.com

My Hero, could you please hook me up with a BUZZ!!, I will be there at VPO. Thanks Jerry Perez Sr. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[my_hero]

Chile, No problem!!!

[Chris Hysell]

No one has yet to post a picture of the new Buzzz.

Here is what all the buzz is about

http://home.comcast.net/~chrishysell/buzz.jpg

Don't have one - that Hysell guy told me he had none

is the buzz suppose to be the PDGA approved version of the HotShot?

[Chris Hysell]

The Hot Shot is now called the Breeze. The Buzzz is a re-tooled Wasp.

[slowmo_1]

I believe the Breeze is the approved version of the hotshot. The buzz is a modified wasp

[Chris Hysell]

That was my signing bonus.

[thcplz]

I LOVE MY BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :cool::cool:
i went and got an extra one "first run" to hang on my wall.
i'm planning on getting another for my bag soon.

[cbdiscpimp]

The BUZZZ is the bomb.....i dont need a beat up midrange anymore the BUZZZ does that for me right out of the box in Z plastic..........and tafe will be happy to know that they are now offering the BUZZZ in X yes you saw that correct X Plastic they are called the holiday BUZZZ i believe they come in red and green Pad from Discraft had one at the Willow Tourny on saturday........i must say it looked pretty sweet and i assume would turn into and awesome turnover Disc..........Tafe they have given you your X BUZZZ no go get one for god sakes :D<font color="orange"> </font>

[hoon]

Love the Buzz. Holds hyzer and annie. Haven't flipped it except into a stiff headwind. Reminds me of a brand new X Wasp. Plastic feels great and the rim is comfy, not sharp like the Z-MRV.

I haven't officially thown the BUZZZ in a tourney, but it did earn me $30 at ACE GOLF IN THE OAKS on my 1st throw!

Pat Cantrell beats that story because his first 2 throws with a buzz resulted in 2 aces. Then 4 throws later, another BUZZZ ace for $90 total.

I owe a tree at least $25 for my ace. Shhh.

[tafe]

Thanks. Too bad I didn't realize it until I got my holiday e-mail from the big D. I think I'll get more than one though. I'll give a review when I can throw again!

[thcplz]

KAPT KAULITY: i forgot to mention.
i'll take RED mid-70's (173)

see ya in lewisville

[my_hero]

You got it!

[thcplz]

:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

[discchucker]

I received my z-buzzz on Saturday and put it in the bag for a round Sunday. The Buzzz is quite possibly the straightest disc I have ever thrown. I used it for most of my shots that were around 250-300. I threw it hyzer, straight and anhyzer, and it held it's line everytime I threw it. This disc will definitely find a place in my bag. I think this disc will replace my CE Spider. This disc is a strong candidate for best new disc of the year, in my opinion. Definitely a thumbs up from me.

[slowmo_1]

the more I throw the buzz the more I like it. Discraft really hit the mark with this one. It sure feels good in my hand, no sharp edges on it anywhere. I love the way it holds a line.

** edited out typo **

Yes yes, the buzzz rocks....BUT
the muzzz...sure could be the next generation disc.
Maybe my dog would like that one!

Oh my God I already love this disc.

I took it (173g Purple) out for some practice today, with a pretty strong crosswind (15-20 MPH, gusts even higher), and this thing didn't budge off-line once! And distance wise, in that kind of wind...I was getting it out close to 150-160' (that is a bomb for me with a midrange, even in calm conditions).

It's got a definite place in my bag now :)

I can also brag about my longest shot ever today. 250' with a Blue Crush...just throwing it for kicks, I have no intentions on using it for actual play yet (except on two holes where I need a hard left turn). Not enough control yet, but man that shot felt GREAT!!!

Okay, my verdict is in.

The buzzz is such a good addition to the bag b/c:
it maintains it's flight after hitting trees
is like a new Photon Wasp
will slowly break in to something unbelievably sweet
is comfortable in the hand
and fun to throw

Has anyone beat up their Z-Buzzz yet?
What does it fly like?

Anyone try the X-buzzz yet?
What does it fly like?

[boru]

I don't know what you'd consider "beat up." I've had mine for about a month and hit plenty of trees with it. The edges are a getting a little scuffed, but I haven't noticed any difference in the flight at all.

By beat up, I mean - starting to flip a little.

I've been flying two first runs orange 174g and a yellow 177g and they are sweet, love them, buzzzomatic. They don't seem to be getting to beat up it will probabily take forever to get beat but that's just fine with me! I actually have more Discraft plastic in my bag now than when the cyclone first came out, and was my main driver. The challenger, wasp, talon, and crush are all in my bag with the two buzzz.

Sounds like a good quiver.

It's interesting that nobody's Buzzz has started to turn. That plastic (although Z) seems soft and I would think that a few good solid smacks would change the flight patterns a bit. But maybe it's just another example of solid Discraft plastic.

[jdavidson]

I've abused one of my Z-Buzzz's, here are the results...... When I first received mine, I played about 5-6 rounds with it throwing it on every shot just trying to get a feel for it. So if you factor those rounds in with the other rounds its been used in, it has seen some hard times. (it's maybe been thrown around 400 times) However, it is still flying dead straight, into a head wind it will drift a bit, but it doesn't necessarily flip. <font color="blue">Discraft</font> hit the mark with this one.

[moolie]

I have thrown the X Buzz. It has, i.mo., the standard X vs Z plastic characteristics of most discs (less stable and a little longer out of the box). It is slightly less stable straight out of the box. It has a ton of glide like the Z Buzz but seemed to want to go right into the wind a little more than the Z. Still an awesome disc.

[dannyreeves]

X-Buzz sounds awesome. I didn't care for the Z-Buzz all that much. Too stable for what I wanted it for. I may try the X-Buzz but it is hard to beat a seasoned Roc (or Wasp) for those dead straight shots.

W-O-W It sounds like the X-Buzzz will be the perfect seasoned Wasp when it's new!!!! No need to break it in and no need to worry about losing your perfectly tuned wasp....b/c the X-Buzzz it IT :)

I want one...I want one... when is mine coming?

Common Kid, get it straight - Buzzz....that third z is critical to the name of the disc. :o

[dannyreeves]

I always get my post in before you. hehe

Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Yes you do!!!!

BUT

That's what I expect b/c what else you be doing.

:) :cool::o:D :p

[james_mccaine]

Hey, I really love my wasps and buzzzes in most conditions, but in very heavy winds (ala TTC), they (with the exception of the heavy wasp) fly very strange. Undependably strange. They seem to get unstable, not in the sense we normally use this term by being flippy, but tend to "hop" up and down alot during midflight. It's happened enough that I really feel it is an intrinsic characteristic of the discs. Anyone else ever experience this.

Discraftphiles, don't get mad, but in these conditions, I pull out the old trusty roc and the problem disappears.

I think that the up and down you're describing would indicate the way the disc is thrown more than which disc is thrown.

[boru]

As far as I can tell, my Z Buzzz hasn't changed at all. Mine recently had an encounter with something we affectionately call the "disc grater." It's a sharp metal grate on the side of a building. If you hit it with a glancing blow, the disc grater acts like a lathe against your spinning disc, cutting an ornamental groove into the rim. So my Buzzz now has a decent gouge out of the side, along with plenty of nicks and scuffing. It's clearly not indestructable, but the flight hasn't changed a bit. It will turn, if you want it to, but that's not its natural tendency (the way my DX Roc, which I got at the same time and have thrown less, does).

On another note, has anybody thought about the description "super-straight modified Wasp"? Physically, these discs are pretty different!

On another note, has anybody thought about the description "super-straight modified Wasp"? Physically, these discs are pretty different!



YES, and I think that's why they are calling it a MODIFIED wasp. There ain't no bead, but it's based on the same mold.

[dannyreeves]

Is the X-Buzzz as flat as the Z? The Z's seem pretty flat which makes them fast.

Personally, it would be cool if they were more domey. :)

I've only seen one X buzzz it's the discraft X-mas disc. Are there plans for production X buzzz??

[tafe]

O.K. Now that I've had my box of Holiday Buzzz's for a while, let me tell you about them. The plastic is sweet. It was just what I had in mind when I picked up a Z Buzzz for the first time. From what I can tell, anything above 175 is flat like the Z, anything below that is domey like a Wasp/Roc. After throwing both in a field, I can't tell a difference. In fact, if anything, the flat ones turned MORE!! That was probably me compensating, though.
This disc is your best Bizzle right out of the box. Have you ever scared yourself by almost losing your "beat just right" Wasp/Roc? Or hitting it hard into a tree and knowing it won't fly right anymore? I don't have to worry about that now. If by some strange coincidence I did lose one, a new one will be the same - perfect. As I understand it, the X is a limited edition for now and the Holiday versions are almost sold out (from Discraft) meaning retailers should still have them. Let me at Toboggan hole #1 now! I'll deuce the beast!

Buzzz=QMS

IMO

[dannyreeves]

Not really. The Buzzz is flatter and faster than the QMS. The Buzzz handles a head wind a little better but it is more overstable at slow speeds than the QMS. They are similar discs but I would not call them equal.

Not to mention, it doesnt have that crappy sharp edge....the whole reason I never took to the MS.

[dannyreeves]

Oh yeah, forgot about that. The QMS is not for those with severe depression. One could be having a bad round and use that rim to slash his wrists. :D

[thcplz]

I LUV MY BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ !!!!!!

i'm totally changing my attack routes, because of the straight line that my BUZZZZZ holds.
the shorter hyzer routes that i would have to throw with my wasp, becomes a straight at it throw,(THAT's REALLY HELPING MY GAME OVERALL).
i got a backup, but want to stockpile a couple more.


THANX DISCRAFT :cool:

[jasonc]

I LUV MY BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ !!!!!!



We all knew that already Metal!!!!! :cool::D;) The 3 icons are each phaze of it!

[thcplz]

HEY, JASON

BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ OFF :) :D :p

If you could only have either the Wasp (D or Z) or the Buzzz, which would you choose and why?

[boru]

If I could only have one disc period, it would be the Buzzz. It edges out the Roc and the Wasp as a midrange because not only will it hold the line you put it on, but it requires less height to operate. I'm very confident with the Roc if I have a ceiling of at least 10', but for those low, straight shots, the Buzzz is it. You can also get some reasonably good distance off the tee with the Buzzz, and it's a decent putter in a pinch.

[thcplz]

i gotta second that...
i threw snipers-gremlins..
can't really compare to the roc
but the wasp was too stable for me.
i don't even carry another midrange, cerhyno is the closest to it.
i'm throwing my BUZZZZZZ on the tight tunnel shots and getting great results.

[Chris Hysell]

BBD, I would have to say D Wasp. In fairness it's because I have so many rounds of golf with it and very few with the Buzzz. Maybe by next spring, my answer will be different.

[tafe]

I guess my choice would be the D Wasp, just because the Z is too stable (I love my X, but you didn't give that choice). The Buzzz is great, but it really can't handle a headwind like the Wasp. My solution is to carry them both!

[dannyreeves]

The white X Wasp is the best.

[tafe]

Have you noticed that the new white X Wasps, i.e. Am Nat's and the Pat Vitale discs GLOW?!?! They aren't strong enough to play glo golf with, but they do glow.

[cbdiscpimp]

I would have to third the Buzz Comment. You can throw it on a Hyzer...Dead nuts straight or on an Annie. It will go anywhere you want with enough snap on it....I find that i can turn the light weight ones over a lil bit....as for the z's beating up at all. Ive had mine for months now and they show no flight signs of beating up. cosmetically they get a lil scuffed as usual with z plastic but no flight change for me. I think discraft again has produced a superior disc with the BUZZZ
My collection has reached about 8-10 of them now.
If you havent gotten BUZZED yet i suggest you do so. and if your unhappy with yours and it weighs between 176-178 ill buy it off you :)

[thcplz]

i was having problems with the BUZZZZZ being tooooo fast.

guess:
i have to figure out another midrange to carry,
was overthrowing the buzz in the 25-30 wind with gusts over 40, both into and with the wind.
the problem is the rhyno wouldn't carry in the wind(flying brick comes to mind).

[my_hero]

What are we going to do with you Mike? You must have been throwing it too hard! Don't switch from the Buzzz. Over 83% of all fatal aircraft crashes are due to pilot error :D

[thcplz]

"90% OF ALL PEOPLE ARE CAUSED BY ACCIDENTS"


KAPT K :
I WAS UNDERTHROWING THE PUTTER,
AND OVERTHROWING THE MIDRANGE..
it sounds like i needed something..

the 5 extra strokes i took in the first round was just enuff to keep me out of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

btw: the Z-TALON was the goto disc this weekend, that much I AM (&amp;WAS) PROUD TO SAY.

[thcplz]

:cool:

[hazard]

I like the Buzzz, but unlike some of you people, I haven't found it to operate any better with a low ceiling than the Roc or QMS. thrown flat at shoulder level it seems to go the same distance as my QMS and shorter than my Rocs used to. Thrown just higher than my head it outflies either one. But it is neither as long nor as straight as my Photon Wasp.

Doesn't keep it out of my bag by any means though, as it is easier for me to throw with a reliable anhyzer or flex line than my QMS. I still carry the Q for two reasons...first, it is a bit easier for me to control on high touch anhyzer flicks. Second, I like having midranges in more different plastics than seems probable.

[thcplz]

:)

[thcplz]

well how's the hoodie-buzz deal going, KAPT K???

[dannyreeves]

Who has the X-Buzzz? Give us a review.

How is it different from the Z-Buzzz? Probably less stable.

Is it straight or flippy?

When brand spanking new: this disc is straight if not understable. With a hard throw, I can get the disc to turnover considerably! It seems to fly like a medium beat D-Wasp...which makes it a great addition to my quiver since I value my understable mid-ranges (for holes like D at Vets).

Oh, and it will most definitely come back, but it doesn't hyzer quite as hard left at the end as the Z-buzzz.

So far, I enjoyed throwing this disc with a touch of hyzer and watching it flip flat and FLY! I've played 3 rounds with mine: had 2 fairway aces and hit the basket from the #15 tee at LaMirada.

[Chris Hysell]

I have 2 X Buzzzards. One is green and one is red. Each has a nice Christmas print. They make great decorations.

I really haven't had a chance to throw them yet and probably won't unless something happens to my Wasp. Of course, I'll probably replace that with another Wasp.

[dannyreeves]

You mean Hole E.

Yes, I mean E!!!! Oops!

[slowmo_1]

I just got my new X Buzzz in the mail this weekend and just had to go out and throw them. They are fantastic! A bit less stable than the Z buzzz, no where near the hyzer at the end of the flight that the Z hass. Also seems to have a little better glide at slow speeds and not as much skip/slide when it hits the ground.

:D first run blue 175g z-buzz first throw 11th hole of a team disc golf match ~275-300? tunnel shot maybe 20ft wide fairway and low ceiling... result ....2 ft from the basket for a "don't smack your head on the basket" drop in 2. Spurred a 4 in a row duece run to put the match out of reach. Very cool disc...impressed with the speed for Midrange and distance...strait as can be...can probably replace a couple of discs previously used for similar shots described above

also just got a red Z-talon...need some time with this before it will be a go to disc, but I have high hopes for it as well

Jay

[spartan]

X-Buzz..is that the same thing as the limited edition Holiday Buzz? Wondering what the differences are, if any between the Z and the Holiday Buzz.

ps. Loving the Buzz. Hole# 12 -The Meadows at Circle R- you know, the Butt Hole; Right down the pipe past the Butt Tree 20ft from pin.

:D sweet!

[Chris Hysell]

The X - Buzzz is the same as the holiday Buzzz but there is a different stamp on the ones given to team members.

[spartan]

and...flight differences between the two? X vs. Z

of course, with most Z and X comparisons, the X has been less stable and more predictable.

[Chris Hysell]

I don't know how the X Buzz flies yet. I haven't thrown it and this time of the year I only get to play on the weekend which is usually a tournament.

[pterodactyl]

Our club, The Delta Windjammers, just ordered a holiday package from Discraft. We received 10 Z-Buzzzs amongst the order. They have our club stamp on them. I'm pretty sure that we are one of the first clubs to get our logo on the Z-Buzzz. I'm taking the two with the silver logo stamp along with the silver Buzzz stamp.

[tafe]

You obviously already know the difference in flights. It is just as you said, the X is less stable with a little more dome but better grip. I love my X Wasps and can pretty much do what I want with them. The Z Buzzz is just a little too stable for me, it's too close to my Wasp. The X Buzzz is perfect. It replaced my "beat just right" D Wasp. Since there's snow on the ground up here and it's FLIPPIN' COLD I haven't been out alot, but when I was, the Buzzz was great for the high long turnover that just needs to keep going. Enjoy!

[gokayaksteven]

how are the z-buzzz for rollers?

[Chris Hysell]

??? Why roll it? I have never considered rolling a midrange. Once in a while I will throw a forehand roller with a magnet for short shots.

[gokayaksteven]

i am new to rolling as the courses near where i live in colorado don't require or allow it. [uneven terrain] i have been going to fields and practicing. it seems to me that a midrange might not be affected as much by irregularities in the ground as much as a sharper profiled driver. also--do heavy discs work better? maybe there is another thread that would help my novice-rolling self. what do most folks use for rollers? different discs for different distances? thanks

[tafe]

I've seen a Wasp roll a LOONG way. Don't know about the Buzzz though. As many people have said, rolling is a different story. I don't know enough to tell you anything. :o

[thcplz]

just got my X-BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ,
played my first round with it( 2 near aces).
i'm loving the feel of it so far.

[disc19608]

Z-Buzzz is DOPE! No sharp edge like the QMS, it glides forever. Perfect addition to quiver already laden with Z-wasps, and DX Rocs! For short/approach rollers - just a flick of the finger and a straight little roller ye shall have. I still would like to know where I can get some first run Z-Wasps (with the Elite-Z stamp in the middle). You know, the flat ones? They are CE Rocs to me. Anybody got a line on some?

[tafe]

There's a few on eBay right now.

The Z Buzz is a good long roller. The rim heavy weight distribution makes it roll similar to the Wasp, but it turns a little slower near the end. I got Z Buzzz to roll about 460- 580' last fall, but that was max for me.

Similar to a Hawk in terms of landing angle for max distance.
Best Roller, Z wildcat!

The Z Buzz is a good long roller. The rim heavy weight distribution makes it roll similar to the Wasp, but it turns a little slower near the end. I got Z Buzzz to roll about 460- 480' last fall, but that was max for me.

Similar to a Hawk in terms of landing angle for max distance.
Best Roller, Z wildcat!

D'OH

I agree: Z-cat for rolling :D

[dannyreeves]

X-Cat for my roller

I'm sure your X roller goes farther than my Z roller! :o

You never know, man, I've seen rec players roll forever.

Dang I'm up late, er, early. Pets were barking. Ok, I have it from a reliable source that Discraft is debating whether to Make X wasps available and make the X Buzzz a Tourney Promoter Disc, or Make the X Buzzz available as a regular production item and keep the X Wasps for tourneys. Whaddya think?

[Chris Hysell]

Be careful, they now put you in jail for rolling your EX's. It's a good thing that all of my EX's live in Texas.

[Big Easy]

:p

get 'em George!!!!

/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I bet they'll keep the X-wasp for tournies only and make the x-buzzz a regular production line.

Reasoning: they already have enough wasps in different plastic (D, Photon, Z) whereas the only other buzzz is Z!

[thcplz]

ONE OF MY POSTS WAS QUOTED ON THE BACK PAGE OF THE NEW DGWN. (THCPLZ,before i got it changed back to METAL)

I can't believe they used that quote with a name like that. It either means they got somebody "cool" up at discraft or somebody that just had no idea. My guess it was probably the second type of person.

[thcplz]

I'D LIKE TO THINK IT'S THE FIRST,
NOT THE SECOND.

IT STILL MAKES ME CHUCKLE ALOUD, EVERYTIME I THINK OF IT.

[thcplz]

JUST WANTED TO READ THIS THREAD AGAIN.

[williethekid]

Well I got my new orange 178 elite Z buzz yesterday,and I must say it's really really straight, like a max weight dx roc right outta the box, but only the buzz lasts longer. I also picked up a max weight wasp for my sidearm midrange shots, as well as hyzer and long range turnover shots. They both amaze me, and also make me very glad that i didnt blow the $40, $50, or $60 that some spent for ce rocs. Best 26 bucks ive spent in a long time.

[DiscGolfTool]

What is the Max weight on a Buzzz?
Im going to get a couple of these and I want to make sure I get max weight.
And are there different runs? And does the color of the plastic have anything to do with stablity, I just starting throwing some discraft Z plastic and I really like it, espically the Cyclone and Wildcat, just want to know if there is anything I should be aware of with the Buzzz. I have been throwing KC Rocs (getting beat too quick) and I have one 2004 Champ Roc (nice overstable disc, looking for something straighter) that I am still working with.
Thanks,
Matt

[my_hero]

The Buzzz's "max" weight is 178, but don't be scared to go as low as 175 or 176g. It's been proven that a few grams is impossible to detect.


The Buzzz comes in two plastics, the X and the Z.

The Z is more stable, and has a little less glide than the X. The Z will last you a long, long time.

The X-Buzzz is a little less stable than the Z-Buzzz. The X-Buzzz will also "wear" much faster than the Z-Buzzz.

[tafe]

I really like my X Buzzz's. When I first got them, I took a 178, 175-6, and a 173-4 out to a field and threw for an hour or so. I've settled on the 173-4 because it has a little more dome than the others and feels like a Roc/Wasp in my hand. The flight paths between the three are indistinguishable (!) even though they have different dome heights. Can't wait to try the D version. BTW, try it for rolling, SWEEET!! #18 at Keraiakes, down the pipe!

[letho]

did anyone notice any difference from the first runs to any of the other runs? sorry if this question was already asked..

[junnila]

First runs are much more flat with less fade at the end. They are too similar to make much difference though.

[Karma Police]

I had one in my bag. then I thought to myself... I have roc's. What do I need this for??? But it wasn't bad.

I love the BuZZ disc...... i want it burried with me when i die!!! mine is a 175......

[williethekid]

my 178 buzz is more overstable 4 me than my wasps, prob just my form though. I love my buzz though, was a little leary at first, but its great. Supposed to be like a shark i assume?

The only buzzz that i threw that i liked was a 171g first run orangeish one that my dad has and all the others just flipped hard. I would use that one be he won't part with it so for now i will stick with my ROCS :D

[MARKB]

I dont like discraft, and I still wont throw a lot of it. I got the buzz in a players package 177g and I really like it... enough to have another one if this one would be lost. It is probably the only discraft disc I will throw for a long time, if they could only get rid of the writing on the inside of the rim I would be a little more happy...

yes the writing is annoying when trying to grip the disc. but i do love this disc so much that at the last tournament I wanted to get a heavier one than my 171 and the only buzz left period was a barbie pink one with a purpleish silverish stamp. I thought to myself hmmmm pink yuk then i thought buzzz yum and 176g so I now rock a 176 pink "britney" or "barbie" buzz when I am flipping my 171 orange buzz too much. gosh i love this disc

[cbdiscpimp]

if they could only get rid of the writing on the inside of the rim I would be a little more happy...



How bout you move your grip to where there is no writing. That would be an EASY solution.

Your right about the BUZZZ though. If you were to only throw one Discraft disc that would have to be the one :D

[tafe]

With my grip that leaves one or two places I can grab it. I don't like the fact that I have to grab the same spot on my X Wasp everytime, it's getting worn. Don't get me wrong, I like my Discraft enough to live with it. But if you look in my bag, you'll notice that most of my Discraft is first run stuff (X-Challenger, D-Wasp, X-Talon) because first runs usually don't have the imprinting. Oh well, it's an imperfect world.

[atreau3]

My X Buzz (172) Fly's almost exactly like my 02 CE Roc...hmmm... i think that i'll stop spending 50 for an 02 roc and just buy an X Buzz...how differently do the X and Z buzzes fly?

[dannyreeves]

Z is more stable with less glide.

[boru]

Your right about the BUZZZ though. If you were to only throw one Discraft disc that would have to be the one :D



Yeah, but not by much. The X Wasp is pretty sweet.

[mikeP]

Wow, I actually like the writing on the inside on the rim and grip it when I throw. I always grip the DISCRAFT part. :D

[mikeP]

I love the speed of the buzz. When I first started throwing it my distance was limited by the fact that I wasn't getting a 100% clean release. Now its been in my bag for a good 30-40 rounds along with many hours of practice in a field. My release has become much more smooth and now I can almost throw it like a driver. I throw it flat, pretty much as hard as I can, and put just a little more height and it gets to within 20-30' of my average distance drive. This amazes me as I have never been able to throw other midranges this far (Rocs, MRVs, Wasps, Cobras, Pathers) without some sort of wind help. I almost forgot to mention that the flight path is dead straight.

Izzit just mine, or does the Buzzz fly Roc-style? my friends say I'm lucky with the disc,it's flat-topped and all,so it holds whatever line I put it on! It anhyzers like crazy! Maybe I did just get lucky with a perfect disc cuz I haven't thrown another like mine! Then again, it could be altitude as I am located at over 7000 ft.But altitude is 'sposed ta make everything over stable, right? Itz pretty & lite-blue like my dream girls' eyes! And at only 173 it surprised me even more with it's amazing tricks!!!!
Will wonders never cease!