Discs for rolling

I'm sure this is an old topic that has been gone over before, but which discs roll straight, which ones curve left or curve right.

are there discs that are better for the grass in a park or for hard pack.

[Chris Hysell]

Randy, it all depends on whether you are throwing forehand or backhand, left handed or right handed, uphill or downhill. There are so many variations. Some players throw understable while others throw overstable. Basically, you can make any disc turn the direction you want if you throw it properly.

Randy,

When you're starting to roll, start with understable plastic. I like stingrays and cobras, max weight. You need to get them to do a reverse question mark. In order to do this, you need to develop a arc in your throwing motion. Don't release straight across your chest as you would with an air shot. You need to pivot your arm similiar to a windshield wiper on your car, with your elbow being the base of the wiper. Follow through with the back of your hand toward the spot on the ground where you want to land the disc.

As for straight roller, I like beat up rocs. For max distance, I think the Leapords are best.

[Chris Hysell]

Throwler vs Roller. Many players use the "throwler" technique for their shots. Basically all they do is throw an understable disc with some anhyzer hard enough that it hits the ground at an angle and rolls. This can be done with both a forehand and a backhand. This shot is good for low ceiling shots. By changing the angle of your release, you can use more stable discs and get an even longer roll. Then after you have mastered that, you can even get more advanced by experimenting with the amount of spin you put on the disc. Less spin with an understable disc will give you an even longer roll because the disc will not be able to accomplish its natural tendency to flip towards its face. Have you ever noticed how far your putter will roll away from the basket with virtually no spin at all?
Good luck with your flying/rolling.

[rshelt]

Remember the wind! right to left wind, you need to throw forehand(if your a righty)with something stable(firebird,extreme,z-pred). Lt. to rt. wind, backhand, headwind, throw something a little more stable, tail, a little less stable. To much wind, don't roll. I've learned that on your reach back if you hold your arm a little higher and throw your regular throw(with some zip on it) it will naturally come out of your hand at an anhyzer/roll angle, and you can put more on it, and use a more stable disc for max. distance. The CE Tbird with the leopard bottom(TL), is a great roller.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Stingray. I personally don't like it for rolling because of the shallow rim. I can't get any grip. I like throwing DX Valks and MRV's for my rollers.

[pterodactyl]

Your bag is full of rollers. Try them all and see what they all do. Your arsenal will be increased dramatically.

Go for large diameter, heavy discs such as the Condor or the Jaguar, both of which top out at 200g.

Russ, the "L" in "TL" stands for "Less stable" (than a regular Teebird), not "Leopard bottom." Courtesy of Dave Dunipace. (http://www.pdga.com/discus/messages/50/7194.html?SaturdayNovember0220020358pm#POST115439)

[davei]

A caveat about large diameter rollers: It is true that large diameters will roller farther if thrown with the same velocity, they are harder to predict in the wind because they become a big sail.

as far as distance-- i have had the most success with old REALLY beat up max weight dx eagles.

rolling machines...

Condors are great for thumb rollers. CE spyders are also great roller discs. For maximum d I use an old SE Valk, or a CE Valk. As previously mentioned, you have a bag full of roller discs, try 'em all. I disagree that wind is a big no no for rollers. If you can get a good read on the wind, use it to your advantage.

Sabre's make great straight rollers.
Most discs will roll with the same stability as they fly. You may also want to try rolling your putters for shorts shots!

* If you can get a good read on the wind, use it to your advantage. *

Bingo. This takes a fair degree of practice in varied wind conditions and terrain.

In other words, on the practice field, don't just look for the longest throws in one direction, but also try to throwing in every direction, just to get a feel for what works and doesn't.

Then realize that on the coure, things aren't flat (and wide open). Plus, once you've mastered the ins and outs of rolling around, up and down knolls, consider that there are hot and dead spots on this and that side of the knolls, which all changes depending upon the wind direction and speed.

This isn't to discourage folks from learning to use rollers, only to do so with their eyes open to how much more complex it can be.

try a beat up demon. very stiff. will not collapse when it hits the ground.

[dannyreeves]

SE Valk!!!

i use an extremely worn z-talon for rollers. its been tacoed a million times. better for rollers that start out really close rather than an anhyzer into a roller. can carry some speed though.

I like a beat-up or broken in (depending on the type of roller) 10 x KC TeeBird

[discchucker]

Now that we have covered types of discs... What is a good weight, for a roller disc? I have seen people use light weight discs for rollers and I have seen people use max weight discs for rollers. So I would like to know what weights people think makes for a good roller?

my first roller disc was a stingray,the more i beat it up the better it got.now i roll with an factory 2nd tl most disc are designed for one purpose i.e. to go one way or another.if you put enough spin or angle on a disc you can make it do what you want,thust getting alot of wieght out of your bag
"learn to do more with less" is my matto

[dannyreeves]

The best weight for your roller is about the same weight all your other discs are.

[bambam]

Ditto to Mr. Durco... a well beat-up 9x or 10x KC Eagle is a great roller... just keeps on going.

As far as "which weight is best" goes, that's not a very straight-forward question. If you want the disc to flip over quick and not travel as far, or if you need to get it to the ground quickly (low ceiling, for example), then roll a lighter disc. If you want max distance, or simply want the disc to finish without flipping over towards its face, throw a heavier disc.

One thing to keep in mind is, the more mass (weight) an object in motion has, the longer it will tend to stay in motion. So, with all other things being equal, the heavier the disc, the longer it will attempt to roll. Not that there is much considerable difference in a 168g and a 175g, but there would be between, say, a 154g and a 180g.

As with all other "explanations", YRMV (Your Results May Vary) :D

Stratus
Beat up Valk

Those are the two in my bag I am able to get to roll pretty good. Hard shot to get good at here in Wilmington NC. Castle PAIN is not a course for rollers, so I don't practice them much..

[spartan]

I use a Polaris 1.13 LS

The plastic is very durable, almost CE to me. Rolls and rolls.

[ryangwillim]

My favourite backhand short roller (-300')
DX Archangel

Fav. BH long roller (300'-500'):
Z predator or Z talon

Fav. Forehand short roller (-200'):
Z Extreme

Fav. touch roller (-100'):
4x Aviar-X

10 x KC Pro Gazelle/CE Leopard 350'-500'

Z Buzz <375 - It s a good roller.. predictable!

[thenatureboy68]

9x kc eagle and ce leopard > bh long roller < 350' to 450'
CE Spider or DX Roc for short bh roller < 150' to 250'
Pro Line Monster for Forehand Roller - 350' to 500'feet
Z Wasp for forehand short roller - 200' to 300' NICE!

[Jeff_Peters]

Can roll a very beat DX Cobra thrown forehanded. This is one of those last resort shots, but it is "in the bag" so to speak. Thats the only roling of the plactic I can consistently pull off, except for everyone's favorite, the putt that draws iron and then rolls 30' from the basket.

[moolie]

CE or Q JLS awesome long range backhand roller discs.

for both backhand and forehand: I like new heavy champ or ce valks and heavy champ or ce firebirds depending on where i want each of them to end up

[dm4]

I have seen an Optimizer rolled with some great results! Also I have seen a Lightning R-1 rolled very far. I throw a Champion Beast roller about as far as any. I like to throw my Champion Firebird for cut rollers (hard left and then straight). I also roll my putters for shorter low ceiling mid range shots.